Heidi's Stud Farm: Will it or Won't it?

[3113]

For those of you still interested in the Stud Farm that Heidi Fleiss wants to build in Nevada, here's the lastest. A long and interesting article in the L.A. Weekly detailing the stumbles, roadblocks, and other difficulties Heidi is having...not the least of them being her own self.

The Heidi Chronicles

I'm beginning to think the whole thing is going to be a bust. Not because it can't be done...but because Heidi has too much drama in her life to get it done. Opinions?

 

[Guest]

For those of you still interested in the Stud Farm that Heidi Fleiss wants to build in Nevada, here's the lastest. A long and interesting article in the L.A. Weekly detailing the stumbles, roadblocks, and other difficulties Heidi is having...not the least of them being her own self.

The Heidi Chronicles

I'm beginning to think the whole thing is going to be a bust. Not because it can't be done...but because Heidi has too much drama in her life to get it done. Opinions?

I'm with you. I think she's too used to doing it her way, and she lives to create her personal chemical highs. She likes the drama. She might possibly get a trailer parked in her cactus for a while, but...I don't see her being the one to get the first Stud Farm going.

 

[fieryjen]

Nuts.

I would have bashed her over the head five times already if I were that reporter.

 

[CharleyH]

For those of you still interested in the Stud Farm that Heidi Fleiss wants to build in Nevada, here's the lastest. A long and interesting article in the L.A. Weekly detailing the stumbles, roadblocks, and other difficulties Heidi is having...not the least of them being her own self.

The Heidi Chronicles

I'm beginning to think the whole thing is going to be a bust. Not because it can't be done...but because Heidi has too much drama in her life to get it done. Opinions?

What - you think its going to bust because women wont venture there? How ... well .. I won't say - then again - American women are so ... well ... dull, aren't they?

 

[impressive]

American women are so ... well ... dull, aren't they?

Yeah, we're all boring and no fun in the sack.

 

[rgraham666]

I haven't yet experienced enough American women to extrapolate for 'all'.

However experiment so far seem to contraindicate the 'dull and no fun in the sack' hypothesis.

Got about a quarter of the way through the article. What a boring woman.

 

[Guest]

I haven't yet experienced enough American women to extrapolate for 'all'.

However experiment so far seem to contraindicate the 'dull and no fun in the sack' hypothesis.

Got about a quarter of the way through the article. What a boring woman.

Not because women won't go there, but because Heidi's drama will prevent it ever becoming an entity.

 

[Boxlicker101]

When I first read about the notion, I thought it would be a flop, for various reasons. I still think that would be the case, but now it looks like it won't even get started.

 

[3113]

What - you think its going to bust because women wont venture there?

Oh, no! Quite to the contrary. I think if they built it, American women would come, in droves.

I just don't think Heidi is the one who's going to get it built.

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Oh, no! Quite to the contrary. I think if they built it, American women would come, in droves.

I just don't think Heidi is the one who's going to get it built.

I certainly wouldn't travel all the way to Nevada just to get laid. I would hate to think I would have to pay for it too.

 

[3113]

I certainly wouldn't travel all the way to Nevada just to get laid. I would hate to think I would have to pay for it too.

Well, would you go there and pay for it if you knew you'd get a really sexy guy who would pay attention entirely to you and it would all be about your pleasure?

And it wouldn't be the only thing you'd go to Nevada for. You could go there to have fun in Las Vegas, too

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Well, would you go there and pay for it if you knew you'd get a really sexy guy who would pay attention entirely to you and it would all be about your pleasure?

And it wouldn't be the only thing you'd go to Nevada for. You could go there to have fun in Las Vegas, too

Maybe. But I still would hate to go out to the middle of nowhere and have to pay for it. I can find plenty of decent looking guys who will give me a good time and it doesn't cost me anything. If I had a lot of money I might try it but I don't think I would think it was worth the time, discomfort of driving out into the desert and the expense.

 

[fieryjen]

Maybe. But I still would hate to go out to the middle of nowhere and have to pay for it. I can find plenty of decent looking guys who will give me a good time and it doesn't cost me anything. If I had a lot of money I might try it but I don't think I would think it was worth the time, discomfort of driving out into the desert and the expense.

I thought it was going to be more like a nice spa experience that includes sex - not just like regular sex with a hot guy that you have to pay for.

That's what I read was the plan for this stud farm anyway. I could be wrong, but I think it would make more sense that way to attract women.

 

[Belegon]

Damn...if she doesn't get it built there go my plans to get a new weekend job...

 

[Guest]

Damn...if she doesn't get it built there go my plans to get a new weekend job...

When I win a multi-million dollar lottery, maybe I'll take up the cause. I'm very good at organization, you know

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

I thought it was going to be more like a nice spa experience that includes sex - not just like regular sex with a hot guy that you have to pay for.

That's what I read was the plan for this stud farm anyway. I could be wrong, but I think it would make more sense that way to attract women.

I'm sure I can find a nice spa experience in Las Vegas and not have to drive to Death Valley to find a good looking guy who will eat my pussy and give me a good fucking.

 

[minsue]

I must agree, I think location will make this very difficult. The brothels in NV are all out in the middle of fucking nowhere and it's a long boring drive to get there. (Though when you're having to make the long boring drive across NV, they are at least something entertaining to see as you pass by them )

I loved this part -

“I bought this truck for $400 at a police auction a few days ago,” she told me.

The photographer wanted to know if she has a good mechanic back in Nevada.

“Yeah,” said Fleiss.

“You do?”

“Me.”

“You’re a good mechanic?”

“I’m a great mechanic.”

“Well, you might want to change your hoses, that’s what goes first in the desert.”

“Hoses?” she asked. “What the hell are hoses?”

 

[Boota]

Women won't flock to this Stud Farm for the same reason that puppies don't buy owners.

I'm not saying some women won't go, but the fact remains that a woman who wants laid merely has to make the option available to a man and she's very likely to get it. For free. The curiosity of going to the Stud Farm will be the likely thing that would bring women out there. I don't think that curiosity is sustainable over the long haul.

 

[rgraham666]

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." P.T. Barnum.

And he ought to know.

 

[R. Richard]

I must agree, I think location will make this very difficult. The brothels in NV are all out in the middle of fucking nowhere and it's a long boring drive to get there. (Though when you're having to make the long boring drive across NV, they are at least something entertaining to see as you pass by them )

Actually, there are brothels in many parts of Nevada. You can get the details from my article "Nevada Brothels." Most of the counties in Nevada allow legal prostitution. The main exceptions are Clark and Washoe, the counties that contain Las Vegas and Reno the two largest cities in Nevada [I am not counting the aliens claimed to be in Rachel.]

There are several brothels within not too big a drive from Las Vegas. The Moonlight Bunny Ranch and the Wild Horse Inn are both within reasonable driving distance from Reno.

 

[R. Richard]

Most of the girls who staff the legal brothel in Nevada are working there because they got themselves in situations where the only way they could survive economically was to work in a brothel.

In top level brothels, such as the Moonlight Bunny Ranch, the girls are hot, sexy, females. In some of the Eastern Nevada brothels the girls are just females.

I think that the situation that would doom a stud ranch to failure has been stated several times. A woman might go to a spa that also had studs. However, there is not really a real demand for a place where the entire experience consists of a half hour max with a stud for a fee of $300 to $600.

There are a lot of guys who spend a lot of time and money cruising bars and nightclubs hoping to pick up a woman who will screw. A good looking woman doesn't have to waste a lot of time. If she dresses even more like a whore than the rest of the female patrons and makes it reasonably clear by walk, looks and conversation that she is looking to get picked up, she can have her choice of studs and they will pay for the motel room.

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Women won't flock to this Stud Farm for the same reason that puppies don't buy owners.

I'm not saying some women won't go, but the fact remains that a woman who wants laid merely has to make the option available to a man and she's very likely to get it. For free. The curiosity of going to the Stud Farm will be the likely thing that would bring women out there. I don't think that curiosity is sustainable over the long haul.

That's what I say. I never have any trouble getting laid but I don't always get exactly what I want. Even so, driving all that way in the desert and paying all that money just isn't worth it, not even to satisfy my curiosity.

 

[3113]

A good looking woman doesn't have to waste a lot of time. If she dresses even more like a whore than the rest of the female patrons and makes it reasonably clear by walk, looks and conversation that she is looking to get picked up, she can have her choice of studs and they will pay for the motel room.

Take note of how you put it however: "A good looking woman." Yes, she can have her choice of studs. The not-so-good-looking woman can have her choice of...beer belly, creepy, obnoxious (who might need to throw up before they leave), and Mr. Lecherous.

And what if the woman is fat and ugly, not just "not-so-good-looking"? And what are these men willing to do for this whored-up not-so-good-looking woman? Shall I tell you? They will very generously let her suck their cock.

Go down on her? Sorry, no can do. They don't do that for sluts. They don't even do it for their wives most of the time. But they'll slap her ass if she likes. Fuck her quick and fast in the alley or the back seat of a car or a cheap motel, because that is what this is all about right? Wam-bam-thank-you-ma'am. And while he's at it, he'll make a few requests of his own, like could she scream a little louder and tell him how good he's fucking her?

You see what I'm getting at here?

I think there are a lot more women out there with money to burn on this than you think. Sure, any girl can get laid. If she says, "I'm fuckable," there will be guys at bars willing to fuck her. But will they be willing to give her the pleasure she wants without getting off themselves? A stud at the stud farm will. Pay him $300 and he'll go down on a girl and never cum himself. He'll rub her feet, he'll listen to her bitch, he'll sympathize, he'll romance, he'll tell her she's beautiful. He'll give her a backrub, read her poetry, he'll feed her chocolates.

And he'll put her pleasure first each and every time. I really don't think the guys at the bar looking to get their rocks off are willing to do any of that...unless the girl IS very good looking--and willing to pay for the room.

It's not just about getting laid. If it was, why would guys go to the far more expensive bunny ranch for a blow job rather than just pick up a cheap hooker in Las Vegas? You get what you pay for...and getting it cheap (the price of a few drinks) means you take what you can get, not get what you want or need.

 

[Guest]

Take note of how you put it however: "A good looking woman." Yes, she can have her choice of studs. The not-so-good-looking woman can have her choice of...beer belly, creepy, obnoxious (who might need to throw up before they leave), and Mr. Lecherous.

And what if the woman is fat and ugly, not just "not-so-good-looking"? And what are these men willing to do for this whored-up not-so-good-looking woman? Shall I tell you? They will very generously let her suck their cock.

Go down on her? Sorry, no can do. They don't do that for sluts. They don't even do it for their wives most of the time. But they'll slap her ass if she likes. Fuck her quick and fast in the alley or the back seat of a car or a cheap motel, because that is what this is all about right? Wam-bam-thank-you-ma'am. And while he's at it, he'll make a few requests of his own, like could she scream a little louder and tell him how good he's fucking her?

You see what I'm getting at here?

I think there are a lot more women out there with money to burn on this than you think. Sure, any girl can get laid. If she says, "I'm fuckable," there will be guys at bars willing to fuck her. But will they be willing to give her the pleasure she wants without getting off themselves? A stud at the stud farm will. Pay him $300 and he'll go down on a girl and never cum himself. He'll rub her feet, he'll listen to her bitch, he'll sympathize, he'll romance, he'll tell her she's beautiful. He'll give her a backrub, read her poetry, he'll feed her chocolates.

And he'll put her pleasure first each and every time. I really don't think the guys at the bar looking to get their rocks off are willing to do any of that...unless the girl IS very good looking--and willing to pay for the room.

It's not just about getting laid. If it was, why would guys go to the far more expensive bunny ranch for a blow job rather than just pick up a cheap hooker in Las Vegas? You get what you pay for...and getting it cheap (the price of a few drinks) means you take what you can get, not get what you want or need.

Important point. Men have had the comparative luxury of being considered for their earning power over their looks. Women have long traded looks for money.

This would reverse that some. Women with money but, perhaps, no real bonuses in the physical appearance department can hire a hunk who will do what she wants as long as she pays on the scale. Men have been doing this for....ever. At least, a man's ability to provide for a female has been a huge factor in his ability to attract females of his choice, despite his looks.

It's really not that hard an equation, and while it might take some time and some "firsts" to establish the thought pattern for women (honestly, it's been going on among the oh so quite rich for...ever. Historically, tho, women haven't been as financially prospereous, nor favored by law and custom, to enact this particular arrangement as often as men have.) I think it could be quite successfull.

I just don't think Heidie will make it happen, which was the original point of the thread.

 

[Guest]

Women won't flock to this Stud Farm for the same reason that puppies don't buy owners.

I'm not saying some women won't go, but the fact remains that a woman who wants laid merely has to make the option available to a man and she's very likely to get it. For free. The curiosity of going to the Stud Farm will be the likely thing that would bring women out there. I don't think that curiosity is sustainable over the long haul.

I wish that had been true when I was in my slutpuppy stage. Yes, I could find sex if I offered, but it was standardly All About Him. I found a lot...a LOT...of very lousy sex.

Most women can find a lot of very lousy free sex, simply because for many women, satisfactory sex is somewhat more time consuming. A man who only wants sex seems -- on average -- wired to successfully achieve his goals in minimal time with great economy of effort.

I think what women would pay for would be TIME, and attractiveness of the male she's with, and ATTENTION.