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STATEMENTS BY RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND ORGANIZATIONS

"In recent weeks in New York we have had a series of violent actions against persons perceived to be homosexuals. These actions were so brutal that they could have resulted in murder. As it is, one victim is still hospitalized in serious condition as a result of beatings with a baseball bat and a knife wound in the lung. I wish I had language strong enough to condemn this kind of cruelty. Anyone who performs such actions in the belief that he or she is in some way helping society is utterly stupid." Those who perpetrate violence against homosexuals "are doing violence against Christ Himself."

--New York Roman Catholic Cardinal John O' Connor, in a sermon given on September 11, 1988.


"Attacks on Americans based solely on their religion, race, sexual orientation or ethnicity are attacks on society as a whole. When our gay citizens are viciously attacked, our national commitment of basic decency and humanity is undermined. Compelling evidence shows that anti-gay violence is the most prevalent form of hate crime, and many perpetrators of anti-gay violence commit hate crimes based on religion, race and ethnicity."
--Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs Former Director Reverend Charles Bergstrom, Charles Bergstrom, testimony in favor of Federal Hate Crimes Act before the House Subcommittee on the constitution, June 21, 1988.


"Discrimination or violence directed against persons with AIDS is unjust and immoral."

--U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, "The many Faces of AIDS: A Gospel Response," December 1987.


"These events at the University of Chicago (swastikas painted on a campus office that served gay students and other harassment) bear witness to the rising incidence of prejudice and violence against homosexuals on campuses nationwide, a trend that coincides with the dramatic rise in attacks against gays and lesbians in the country at large. Homosexuals have become the latest American scapegoats."

--American Baptist University of Chicago Minister Evan Drake Howard, in an article in The Christian Century, July 15, 1987.


"Over the last few years, gay and lesbian people in the united States have been the victims of a frightening increase in violent acts of crime.... As Christians, we must deplore every act of violence against gays and lesbians. We must respect their right to live in dignity, and reject every act that tries to force the contrary. We must be God to give us the grace to understand how to repent for so many years of sinful violence directed against gay and lesbian people."

--The Catholic Worker, article in May 1987.


"It is time -- indeed, the time has passed -- that the rights of homosexual and lesbian persons must be protected alongside the rights of all others who enjoy these rights in our society. The intimidation and violence against this segment of our society violate basic Christian teachings and the sense of justice of all persons of good will.... These persons are due protection of our society that they may live like all the rest of us -- in guaranteed freedom."

--Lutheran Bishop James A. Graefe, Metropolitan New York Synod to U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, January 16, 1985.


"As a bishop who has had the opportunity to observe the first hand the kind of violence -- yes, savage almost maniacal violence -- as well as lesser, more subtle but nevertheless destructive forms of violence perpetrated against gay and lesbian people, I want to urge the U.S. commission on Civil Rights to take this matter seriously in its activities. It is no secret that gay and lesbian persons are frequently subject to indignities, harassment and physical abuse which, if perpetrated against more conventional members of society, would not be tolerated."

--Lutheran Bishop Philip Wahlberg, Texas-Louisiana Synod to U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, January 11, 1985.


"Violence against any human being violates the teachings of the Judeo-Christian tradition. Thus the increased incidence of violence against gay and lesbian Americans is indefensible and morally reprehensible. Anti-gay/lesbian violence is a crime qualitatively equal to violence against racial, ethnic or religious groups."

--United Church of Christ Board for homeland Ministries Executive Vice President Charles Shelby Rooks, January 4, 1985.


"One of the current human rights problems is acts of harassment and violence against persons of homosexual orientation. Such actions in our nation violate both our national standards of human rights as well as standards of Judeo-Christian heritage. They specifically violate one of the clear positions of the United Methodist Church, Which affirms the human rights of all persons, including those in this category."

--United Methodist Church Los Angeles Bishop Jack M. Tuell, to U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, December 21, 1984.


"The most awful stain left by bigotry on American history -- and its most grievous affront against our country's ideals -- is the record of violence committed by haters against the hated, whose 'guilt' and vulnerability has been that they are 'different'.... I'm sure you have noted the recent harassment and violent assaults perpetrated against gays -- a development which we think might well be assessed as part of an overall study of bigoted crimes. Americans as individuals, however stereotyped as 'different,' have a basic right to be free from societal violence."

-Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith national Director Nathan Perlmutter to U.S. commission on Civil Rights, December 20, 1984.


"Nothing can justify attacks on homosexual persons, and the Church must clearly repudiate all such acts. Violence is not the way of the Gospel. Violence is not the way of the Church. Violence is not the way of Christ."

--San Francisco Roman Catholic Archbishop John R. Quinn, statement to all Deans, August 2, 1984.


"It is a dangerous repeat of history when the answer to have and violence against a group of people is virtual silence on the part of the hierarchy of the Roman catholic Church.... In view of the escalating assaults on lesbian women and gay men by fundamentalist Christians and others, it would seem imperative for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese to intervene, at least at the level of clear disassociation from the aims and tactics of such religious demagoguery."

--Archdiocese of San Francisco, Report of the Task Force on Gay/Lesbian Issues, July 1982.
 
Appears that Islam is not the only religion that has right winged hard core Jihad fanatics. go figure.
 
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Appears that Islam is not the only religion that has right winged hard core Jihad fanatics. go figure.
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I did you actually read?




Yes, and in that vein I was pointing out the fact that Osama Bin Laudin is just a follower who had a 'vision' and started his own Jihad. He is no different that those who persecute the homosexuals in this country.
The leaders of both religions are saying that violence is not the way, although the Islamic leaders are not being so vocal as they should be. Perhaps the irony is ALL religions preach peace, and love yet SOME of the FOLLOWERS don't follow through very well. They become fixed on certain passages in their books and forget the overall picture of life and peace.:)
 
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Yes, and in that vein I was pointing out the fact that Osama Bin Laudin is just a follower who had a 'vision' and started his own Jihad. He is no different that those who persecute the homosexuals in this country.
The leaders of both religions are saying that violence is not the way, although the Islamic leaders are not being so vocal as they should be. Perhaps the irony is ALL religions preach peace, and love yet SOME of the FOLLOWERS don't follow through very well. They become fixed on certain passages in their books and forget the overall picture of life and peace.:)


interesting thread but i also agree with curious2c
 
I agree with curious2c.

Why? Cause Revver Phelps and his loyal followers stand firmly in their path of hatemongering righteousness. The gay person's Bin Laden if you will.

He didn't dive bomb anyone, but every day he stands on a street corner in the capital of the state and demands that we create laws making gay people pariahs. He tells his sheep that God Hates Fags. You can tell cause he made a website godhatesfags.com

Gay people are victims of this man's theology because his bible belt popularity is pretty strong. He makes their home a hostile place to live, harasses them every day, and goes out of his way to make sure they have no rights as citizens.

Not nearly as bad as the WTC, true, but you have a rogue religious leader preaching hatred and a holy war against sinners. His fellow religious leaders aren't doing enough to stop him, instead they let him draw more and more people into his flock of crusading warriors. He's hateful, well funded, and he's got a mission against sinners. The scope is different, the man is the same.

If you don't have the sense to see that, then you should eat an orange. It wakes the brain up.
 
Hanns_Schmidt said:
I don't remember 3000+ faggots being plane dived and killed

One at a time is no less heinous or deplorable than 3000 at once. In actuality the individual acts are an indication of a greater number of people prone to violence than a single act of mass murder commited by one or few individuals. I'll wager that there are more gay hating idiots that wouldn't hesitate to resort to deadly violence in this country than radical Muslims of the same bent.

Murder is murder. Numbers are meaningless.
 
I think that if you add up the number of gay teens who commit suicide because they are outcasted, or the number of hate crimes resulting in fatality of a gay person, the numbers would be similar.

Also- CNN and the Washington Post reported that the official number of fatalities from the WTC is 1400-something (I cannot remember the exact number.) They predict the number will lower more.

That is just what they said, dont blame me.
 
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