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[Sean Renaud]

That percentage is misleading. For one thing, it must be a primary election, and those is always a lower turnout at them than at a general election. More important, many of the incumbents, all of whom are Dems, are running unopposed. Why would anybody take the time to vote in an election with only one candidate?

Agreed.

 

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[Sean]

It sucked you in.

Pointing out that you, Ambertard and Breitbart are lying scumbags is fun.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Your peers are no match for our peers. Remember right against left, is right against wrong.

And yet your losing the culture war. Because my peers out match yours in raw numbers, in education and ultimately in influence. Your's is a dead generation.

 

[cjh]

Bullshit. It's like it is here, you have equally opportunity to post and make your point, however time and time again your confused, disjointed, disingenuous, and out of touch responses, results in towering failure.

The OP failed in misstating the facts and their significance.

You failed in running with that ball.

 

[cowslinger64]

*chuckle* He does. And oddly enough most of it he's brought on himself.

Ishmael

Sure he did..


TIME just published “The Party of No,” an article adapted from my new book, The New New Deal: The Hidden Story of Change in the Obama Era. It reveals some of my reporting on the Republican plot to obstruct President Obama before he even took office, including secret meetings led by House GOP whip Eric Cantor (in December 2008) and Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (in early January 2009) in which they laid out their daring (though cynical and political) no-honeymoon strategy of all-out resistance to a popular President-elect during an economic emergency. “If he was for it,” former Ohio Senator George Voinovich explained, “we had to be against it.” The excerpt includes a special bonus nugget of Mitt Romney dissing the Tea Party.

But as we say in the sales world: There’s more! I’m going to be blogging some of the news and larger themes from the book here at TIME.com, and I’ll kick it off with more scenes from the early days of the Republican strategy of No. Read on to hear what Joe Biden’s sources in the Senate GOP were telling him, some candid pillow talk between a Republican staffer and an Obama aide, and a top Republican admitting his party didn’t want to “play.” I’ll start with a scene I consider a turning point in the Obama era, when the new President went to the Hill to extend his hand and the GOP spurned it.

On Jan. 27, 2009, House Republican leader John Boehner opened his weekly conference meeting with an announcement: Obama would make his first visit to the Capitol around noon, to meet exclusively with Republicans about his economic-recovery plan. “We’re looking forward to the President’s visit,” Boehner said.

The niceties ended there, as Boehner turned to the $815 billion stimulus bill that House Democrats had just unveiled. Boehner complained that it would spend too much, too late, on too many Democratic goodies. He urged his members to trash it on cable, on YouTube, on the House floor: “It’s another run-of-the-mill, undisciplined, cumbersome, wasteful Washington spending bill … I hope everyone here will join me in voting no!”

Cantor’s whip staff had been planning a “walk-back” strategy in which they would start leaking that 50 Republicans might vote yes, then that they were down to 30 problem children, then that they might lose 20 or so. The idea was to convey momentum. “You want the members to feel like, Oh, the herd is moving. I’ve got to move with the herd,” explains Rob Collins, Cantor’s chief of staff at the time. That way, even if a dozen Republicans ultimately defected, it would look as if Obama failed to meet expectations.

But when he addressed the conference, Cantor adopted a different strategy. “We’re not going to lose any Republicans,” he declared. His staff was stunned.

“We’re like, Uhhhhh, we have to recalibrate,” Collins recalls.

Afterward, Cantor’s aides asked if he was sure he wanted to go that far out on a limb. Zero was a low number. Centrists and big-spending appropriators from Obama-friendly districts would be sorely tempted to break ranks. If Cantor promised unanimity and failed to deliver, the press would have the story it craved: Republicans divided, dysfunction junction, still clueless after two straight spankings.

But Cantor said yes, he meant zero. He was afraid that if the Democrats managed to pick off two or three Republicans, they’d be able to slap a “bipartisan” label on the bill. “We can get there,” he said. “If we don’t get there, we can try like hell to get there.”

Shortly before 11 a.m., the AP reported that Boehner had urged Republicans to oppose the stimulus. Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs handed Obama a copy of the story in the Oval Office, just before he left for the Hill to make his case for the stimulus, an unprecedented visit to the opposition after just a week in office. “You know, we still thought this was on the level,” Gibbs says. Obama political aide David Axelrod says that after the President left, White House aides were buzzing about the insult. And they didn’t even know that Cantor had vowed to whip a unanimous vote — which, ultimately, he did.

“It was stunning that we’d set this up and, before hearing from the President, they’d say they were going to oppose this,” Axelrod says. “Our feeling was, we were dealing with a potential disaster of epic proportions that demanded cooperation. If anything was a signal of what the next two years would be like, it was that.”

But that wasn’t the only signal. A few other examples:

• Vice President Biden told me that during the transition, he was warned not to expect any bipartisan cooperation on major votes. “I spoke to seven different Republican Senators who said, ‘Joe, I’m not going to be able to help you on anything,’ ” he recalled. His informants said McConnell had demanded unified resistance. “The way it was characterized to me was, ‘For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back,’ ” Biden said. The Vice President said he hasn’t even told Obama who his sources were, but Bob Bennett of Utah and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania both confirmed they had conversations with Biden along those lines.

“So I promise you — and the President agreed with me — I never thought we were going to get Republican support,” Biden said.

• One Obama aide said he received a similar warning from a Republican Senate staffer he was seeing at the time. He remembered asking her one morning in bed, How do we get a stimulus deal? She replied, Baby, there’s no deal!

“This is how we get whole,” she said with a laugh. “We’re going to do to you what you did to us in 2006.”

• David Obey, then chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, met with his GOP counterpart, Jerry Lewis, to explain what Democrats had in mind for the stimulus and ask what Republicans wanted to include. “Jerry’s response was, ‘I’m sorry, but leadership tells us we can’t play,’ ” Obey told me. “Exact quote: ‘We can’t play.’ What they said right from the get-go was, It doesn’t matter what the hell you do, we ain’t going to help you. We’re going to stand on the sidelines and bitch.”

Lewis blames Obey and the Democrats for the committee’s turn toward extreme partisanship, but he doesn’t deny that GOP leaders made a decision not to play. “The leadership decided there was no play to be had,” he says. Republicans recognized that after Obama’s big promises about bipartisanship, they could break those promises by refusing to cooperate. In the words of Congressman Tom Cole, a deputy Republican whip: “We wanted the talking point: ‘The only thing bipartisan was the opposition.’ ”

Read more in this week’s issue of TIME or pick up a copy of The New New Deal: The Hidden Story of Change in the Obama Era.

 

[cowslinger64]

The OP failed in misstating the facts and their significance.

You failed in running with that ball.

Vette is a fail in general. Idiocy doesn't even cover it for him.. and his pussy boyfriend miles is just as bad, but knows how to shut the fuck up from time to time.


You can't argue with their special brand of stupid.


Speaking of stupid...I'm sure fatassjerryinflorida will be along soon.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Good luck with that Vette, you know we are never going back to your archaic ways and Obama's "lack of popularity" (which is largely trumped up BS) is meaningless.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The OP failed in misstating the facts and their significance.

You failed in running with that ball.

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[Sean]

Conversely, pointing out that you regularly stub your fingers on the way home from the pub nightly, is fun as well.

The difference is, what I said is true and you're a proven liar.

 

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[IrezumiKiss]

The OP failed in misstating the facts and their significance.

You failed in running with that ball.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1xyppwBTN1r5cg2h.gif

Just gonna keep this on repeat because there's no other point in this thread.

 

[cowslinger64]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1xyppwBTN1r5cg2h.gif

Just gonna keep this on repeat because there's no other point in this thread.

Lol...vette has a reading, comprehension and reality issue..

 

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[cowslinger64]

These two need to clean up before entering a thread:


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[IrezumiKiss]

Lol...vette has a reading, comprehension and reality issue..

The best thing is that he keeps on blurting and posting in these thread fails in order to get the last word in thinking it'll make him smell better and look like he won the argument. Even after it's been clearly demonstrated to everyone looking in that he fucked up.

I've literally seen him post immediately after other people in certain threads either started by him or his other schmuck buddies, even when he had no continuing interest in the thread in hours or even a day. That's being a seriously pressed bitch.

 

[Sean Renaud]

We are never going to submit to your kind of unsustainable socialism either.

Of course we will, we pretty much have already other than a few necessary tweaks.

 

[cowslinger64]

The best thing is that he keeps on blurting and posting in these thread fails in order to get the last word in thinking it'll make him smell better and look like he won the argument. Even after it's been clearly demonstrated to everyone looking in that he fucked up.

I've literally seen him post immediately after other people in certain threads either started by him or his other schmuck buddies, even when he had no continuing interest in the thread in hours or even a day. That's being a seriously pressed bitch.

I know... and he repeats the same old crap over and over and over like somehow that is gonna make it true or something.

Something I told my kids when I was raising them... don't lie to me, but if you do, make it a good one.


Seems vette is totally unclear on that policy.


I think the really scary part is that people like him actually believe it..

 

[BotanyBoy]

We are never going to submit to your kind of unsustainable socialism either.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH too late ya fucking moron.....Reagan started laying the socialism you hate so much on thicker than mayo at a southern sandwich house, and that was back in 86' ya fucking idiot!!! HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA you're like 30 years behind the curve AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cowslinger64]

Wonder what happened to princess amber? Why is she not defending her honor like vette is?


bwahahaha

 

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