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[Sean Renaud]

Why do you say there isn't equal opportunity in the NFL? Do you think whites, Asians, and others are underrepresented because they are being discriminated against?

Are you saying there should be racial quotas in politics?

The NFL (And American Sports in general) cater to a specific body type. They aren't discriminated against, but the game is fixed. However that doesn't matter, it's a game and ultimately it's for fun.

I'm saying that if we can't get there any other way then yes Racial Quotas. But I don't think we are there yet nor are we likely to get there but we need to be prepared if it does happen.

 

[toubab]

The NFL (And American Sports in general) cater to a specific body type. They aren't discriminated against, but the game is fixed. However that doesn't matter, it's a game and ultimately it's for fun.

I'm saying that if we can't get there any other way then yes Racial Quotas. But I don't think we are there yet nor are we likely to get there but we need to be prepared if it does happen.

At least you don't beat around the bush. You put it out there, and I respect that. I also strongly disagree.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Just understand whenever you see a riot that it's your fault. Disagree all you want. You cannot govern without the consent of the governed, and the governed will never consent to rule by those who do not represent them. It's that fucking simple.

 

[toubab]

Just understand whenever you see a riot that it's your fault. Disagree all you want. You cannot govern without the consent of the governed, and the governed will never consent to rule by those who do not represent them. It's that fucking simple.

No, it's not my fault. Not in the least. Unless I do the rioting.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm glad that lets you sleep at night, but it's not true. It's your fault if you don't take the necessary steps to prevent it.

 

[toubab]

I'm glad that lets you sleep at night, but it's not true. It's your fault if you don't take the necessary steps to prevent it.

Bullshit. First of all, rioters are almost always ignorant assholes who are just taking advantage of a situation in order to loot, burn, and act like idiots, as was the case in Ferguson, for example. Most of the actual residents of Ferguson were appalled at the actions of those assholes, 90% of whom weren't even from Ferguson.

 

[Sean Renaud]

ROFL. I wish I was as naive as you. It would make my life infinitely simpler.

 

[BotanyBoy]

When you have equal opportunity you get (roughly) equal results. If you aren't seeing equal results then you don't have equal opportunity.

Buuuuuuuuu shieeeeeet

You can put 100 kids in a room...teach them any subject you want.

Put 100 civilians into basic training.

100 athletes....

100 writers....

And all given the EXACT SAME OPPORTUNITY....some will achieve, others will crash and burn the rest and majority will be mediocre. Opportunity does not equal success man, that's that liburhul buuuushit. At some point you have to realize lil Johnny is a fucking retard and needs to be a god damn ditch digger and not a brain surgeon......

Now I know you think robbing Suzy with and IQ of one hundred and fuckin' ninety of ANY chance of furthering her life and going to medical school to give lil Johnny a warm fuzzy and a gold star into med school, or just dropping all standards so any fucking moron who can manage to color between the lines get's into med school because "That's fair...awwwwwww" means moar success but it doesn't.

That's a lie from LW crazydom and the hippie emotional response......in reality no one benefits from the retard going to medical school....he needs to chase turds or pick up garbage and make a decent living and be a productive member in society.

Want to know what's so fucked up with American academics? No achievement man....graduate HS? Great you can read at a 3rd grade level and can barely do basic arithmetic. It doesn't mean shit...most public schools you show up to the grand babysitting service and get a diploma for sitting around and waiting till your old enough to tax. LOL

You cannot try and correct natural selection....at some point you just have to let the fail boats go on and sink WITHOUT dragging everyone down with them. Toss them a life raft....reach to them with a pole....don't jump in the fuckin' ice water with the panicky fucker though, that's going foolishly too far.

 

[Sean Renaud]

None of that conflicts with what I said.

 

[toubab]

None of that conflicts with what I said.

Of course it does. You clearly are not just for equal opportunity; you are clearly for equal results, no matter what. He disagrees. He is clearly for equal opportunity, but then letting everyone find their own level, on their own merits, and of their own volition. I think he's right, and you're wrong. Clearly.

 

[Boxlicker101]

A most excellent suggestion. Just as importantly more black folk need to run for office so that the younger black folk have someone to vote for. There is an election tomorrow in MA. Prediction is maybe 18% of the electorate will turn out. Here is the wonderful rainbow we have to choose from:

http://www.wggb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/martha-coakley12.jpghttp://www.massequality.org/sites/default/files/u66/StevenGrossman_0.jpg
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site105/2014/0520/20140520__TFront~p2_200.jpg
http://cdn1.bostonmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/finegold-850.jpg
http://www.watertownmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/warrentolman_304.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.wbur.org/2014/0703_meet-the-govs/media/full/scott-lively.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.wbur.org/2014/0703_meet-the-govs/media/full/jeff-mccormick.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.wbur.org/2014/0703_meet-the-govs/media/full/evan-falchuk.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.wbur.org/2014/0703_meet-the-govs/media/full/mark-fisher.jpg

I'm curious about something. First, are you aware the gov. of MA is black and one of the senators claims to be an American Indian?

Second, there are nine congressional districts in MA and there will be one Senate seat up for a vote. All the incumbents are Dems and a large percentage are running practically unopposed. That being the case, why should people bother to come out and vote in the primary election to which you refer?

The other thing is there are nine pictures here. So, which candidates are not represented?

 

[Ishmael]

the pres of a hugearse country like the usa has nothing better to do than provide comment on every street crime that occurs on usa soil? you'd think he'd have more important shit to deal with.

*chuckle* He does. And oddly enough most of it he's brought on himself.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

He's still a community organizer.

That street shit IS the real big shit to him.



The rest of it is just business as usual and best handled by lesser minds...

 

[Ishmael]

He's still a community organizer.

That street shit IS the real big shit to him.



The rest of it is just business as usual and best handled by lesser minds...

It's a distraction alright.

Ishmael

 

[Busybody]

NEWS FROM OBAMA’S POST-RACIAL AMERICA: Police: Women Force Tenants out of Apartment at Gunpoint: ‘Tired of White People Moving In.’

 

[BoyNextDoor]

What's wrong with that group of candidates? I mean, without knowing much about most of them, I'm sure there are plenty of Democrats and plenty of liberals in the group. It is Massachusetts, after all, which is the third most liberal and third most Democratic state in the nation, as I recall.

Nothing. Did you read the thread and see the context?

I am saying to nowisthetime85 that in an election where on 18% of the electorate is going to turn out it is a perfect time to use the power of the vote to get a seat.

 

[toubab]

Nothing. Did you read the thread and see the context?

I am saying to nowisthetime85 that in an election where on 18% of the electorate is going to turn out it is a perfect time to use the power of the vote to get a seat.

I read it. Why would younger black folk not have someone in that group to vote for? Most of them are Democrats and liberals, but I'm sure there must be a couple who aren't.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's in direct conflict with what you said.

When you have equal opportunity you get (roughly) equal results. If you aren't seeing equal results then you don't have equal opportunity.

I'm saying point blank equal opportunity results in no such fuckin' thing as equal results. Opportunity and success are only connected in the vaguest sense of who properly exploits said opportunity, and some people do better than others. Just handing out equal results and calling it "Fair" is a total disservice to EVERYONE. It's lefty gone wrong as fuck....

 

[BotanyBoy]

What's wrong with that group of candidates? I mean, without knowing much about most of them, I'm sure there are plenty of Democrats and plenty of liberals in the group. It is Massachusetts, after all, which is the third most liberal and third most Democratic state in the nation, as I recall.

LOL remember the last flaming liberal, pro socialized medicine, anti gun, pro gay, pro choice liburhul to run for POTUS from MA? I do...
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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's in direct conflict with what you said.



I'm saying point blank equal opportunity results in no such fuckin' thing as equal results. Opportunity and success are only connected in the vaguest sense of who properly exploits said opportunity, and some people do better than others. Just handing out equal results and calling it "Fair" is a total disservice to EVERYONE. It's lefty gone wrong as fuck....

Unless you're going to tell me which race is best or set other parameters your wrong.

Nobody said handing out equal results and calling it fair. If you give an equal number people from every race the same opportunity you should see roughly equal results. If you don't something going in is unequal. In the current US that unequal thing has a lot to do with legacy. If we're talking basketball well it caters to people who can dunk and being 6 foot plus. That's not necessarily a negative if you were to change the contest to an obstacle course Jackie Chan would rock Shaq. Different strengths.

So if your argument is whites are simply better fit to rule and not that they are more likely to come from money, more likely to have friends and family in positions to open doors for them that they likely couldn't have opened on their own, more likely (largely as a result of the former) to have attended college. More likely (Again largely as a result of the former) to not only come from families that value education but with family members who were qualified to help. Good luck getting algebra help from the parent who never graduated. More likely to be in a quality school system to begin with yadda yadda. So if your point is that whites are just better then you're right but otherwise nothing you said contradicts my belief that if you aren't seeing roughly equal results something else is going on.

 

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[Sean]

Bullshit. It's like it is here, you have equally opportunity to post and make your point, however time and time again your confused, disjointed, disingenuous, and out of touch responses, results in towering failure.

This entire thread is a fail, you retard.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The SCOTUS has ruled quotas unconstitutional.

And they are. So is banning gay marriage. So I'm going agree with you that the Constitution is wrong on this matter.

Even though I don't actually think we need quotas I'm just not going to mince words and pretend I'd cry about it if no better alternative can be found.

Bullshit. It's like it is here, you have equally opportunity to post and make your point, however time and time again your confused, disjointed, disingenuous, and out of touch responses, results in towering failure.

I think you have us confused there Vette. The rest I get from our peers far outweighs yours because I'm not a crazy person.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Nothing. Did you read the thread and see the context?

I am saying to nowisthetime85 that in an election where on 18% of the electorate is going to turn out it is a perfect time to use the power of the vote to get a seat.

That percentage is misleading. For one thing, it must be a primary election, and those is always a lower turnout at them than at a general election. More important, many of the incumbents, all of whom are Dems, are running unopposed. Why would anybody take the time to vote in an election with only one candidate?