Has anyone else drawn the ire of story critic Stacnash? 🤣

[dmallord]

I've had two reviews. One very good. The other was okay, but said I could do better. I tried to find the stories to see what had been written, but my search skills are not so good with 74 stories; that's a lot to go through and manually find those comments.

As another author mentioned here, the comments left by Stacnash were extensive and covered a wide range of material.

Does anyone know how to search my story comments and locate her articles w/o a manual search? I appreciate it in advance.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

After reading through 10 pages of this thread, im afraid im going to have to rate it 3 Stars, average at best.

While the humor is strong and often on point, I found the conflicts rather forced and contrived.

The plot started out interesting but quickly became repetitive. And for an "Erotica" site, this whole thing sure has been a boner killer so far.

Still, plenty of interesting characters, some very ... opinionated.

Can't you see we are all spiraling into emptiness, loneliness, depression and self-loathing.

Have some respect!

 

[TheLobster]

Hang on just a damn minute! You mean to tell me the use of "Fuck you, you stupid asshole and the horse you rode in on!" Isn't appropriate debate form? Damn! I guess that eliminates me!

Nah, you're fine. It's a pyramid, so it clearly shows that name calling is in fact the base and foundation of every debate!

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Well said. I've argued before that the ONLY critics worth a damn are the readers. A story may have technical flaws, missed punctuation, a few words used inappropriately, some misspelled, and it may not be what any self-annointed critic wants to see, but if the readers like it, it reached its intended audience and did what it was written to do. If it has a high score and/or a red H, it means the readers that voted liked it, a lot. You can damn well bet if a story rubs the readers wrong, it's going to get bombed. Loving Wives is a prime example of that.

Absolutely, I've never argued against that, but that's not an indicator of quality nearly so much as popularity.

PSG tends to believe that the scores mean nothing, hence their opinion that the H means nothing. To me that always sounded like sour grapes.

Yet no matter how many times I take great care to explain that it's not sour grapes nor that there is anything wrong with that, it's simply a grounded reality to take your feedback and scores as accurately as possible instead of taking those red Hs straight to the ego. That's it. But you in particular have never been able to accept that. So I reamin your bitch cunt villain.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Me thinks perhaps you are reading into what I said something that isn't there. When you think something is, the best thing to do is question, not assume. Assumptions are dangerous in that they can lead a person far astray from the truth.

He did question, not assume. He said 'it looks like ...'

 

[ElectricBlue]

I've had two reviews. One very good. The other was okay, but said I could do better. I tried to find the stories to see what had been written, but my search skills are not so good with 74 stories; that's a lot to go through and manually find those comments.

As another author mentioned here, the comments left by Stacnash were extensive and covered a wide range of material.

Does anyone know how to search my story comments and locate her articles w/o a manual search? I appreciate it in advance.

Go to her Lists, find your story, go to your Works list, find that same story, go to the Comments, find her review.

 

[ElectricBlue]

So I reamin' yo bitch cunt villain.

As the cowboy said to the actress (edits for clarity) .

 

[pink_silk_glove]

As the cowboy said to the actress (edits for clarity) .

Stupid autocorrect on my phone. I need to figure out how to turn that shit off.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Stupid autocorrect on my phone. I need to figure out how to turn that shit off.

Nice rhythm to "bitch cunt villain", though. Very PSG

 

[lovecraft68]

I really like Graham's Hierachy of Disagreement (see https://themindcollection.com/revisiting-grahams-hierarchy-of-disagreement/)
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That's good stuff. I think all of this type of material has gone into overdrive thanks to social media and bandwidth courage along with people creating personas that are who they wish they were not who they're stuck being.

 

[lovecraft68]

Here's something this thread has made me think of.

Are you one of those people who are your own harshest critics? Everything you do could have been done better, even if the result here says it was a success? People gush over it, and you're like "Yeah, they're just easy to please"

Or, are you the one with a high opinion of your work and any naysayers simply don't know what they're looking at?

Problem with this question is I don't think anyone wants to own up to being the latter, but I think we know there are writers like that on the site and we can see it in some threads here from time to time.

My most popular story here, the thing has monster numbers, always makes me shake my head. Its not a bad story, but its simple, predictable (my biggest personal knock on it) kind of sappy (which is not my style) and something I wrote for a friend so the initial motivation for the story wasn't even mine. "I want a best friends become lovers' story, and sweet, don't make it one of your trainwrecks" was the request. I can tell you three major flaws in the piece, but people continue to gush over it. Its like that movie everyone says you have to see, you see it and you're like "Um, this sucks."

I mentioned this to someone and got the "You're too hard on yourself" but I think I'd rather be that way than the "What do you mean you don't like this, what's wrong with you. It's not me, it's you. Types."

 

[lovecraft68]

After reading through 10 pages of this thread, im afraid im going to have to rate it 3 Stars, average at best.

While the humor is strong and often on point, I found the conflicts rather forced and contrived.

The plot started out interesting but quickly became repetitive. And for an "Erotica" site, this whole thing sure has been a boner killer so far.

Still, plenty of interesting characters, some very ... opinionated.

And what qualifies you to judge this thread?
Why should we believe your opinion, I mean, you're one person, right?
Where are all your threads so we can see your amazing skills?
What are you going to do, make a list of threads people should or shouldn't read?

Damn troll.

 

[lovecraft68]

Bull’s-eye. This isn’t the place for a masterpiece, nor is it likely to attract anyone capable of writing one. Still, many would protest. To them, it’s more than a hobby. It’s identity. And nothing flatters identity like a crowd echoing it back. It’s easier to face the treacherous mirror when the mob holds it for you.

When you had the mirror held up, you removed your stories. This is something we will continue to remind you of. Your bitterness and jealousy drives this never ending schtick of yours.

Anyone who enjoys it here, is happy if they've done well, takes pride in their work and sees Lit as a place they have had some success and found a community thay can call home, is some type of self-deluded thin skinned lemming. But you? Oh. no, you are an edge lord who is above all in his knowledge of the human animal.

Wiki is not a good source when trying to use psychology or bootleg philosophy on a porn writing site.

Carry on, Yoda, may sniffing your own farts continue to serve you well.

 

[StillStunned]

Or, are you the one with a high opinion of your work and any naysayers simply don't know what they're looking at?

I'm my own biggest fan. Simply because I write exactly what I want to read. And I reread most of my own stories quite regularly. And you know what? Usually I'm quite impressed.

If other people enjoy my stories too, that's great. If they hate them, good for them. I know my style isn't everyone's favourite flavour. If they point out things that I can improve, that's great too, but I don't let that stand in the way of writing what I think works best.

 

[Djmac1031]

And what qualifies you to judge this thread?
Why should we believe your opinion, I mean, you're one person, right?
Where are all your threads so we can see your amazing skills?
What are you going to do, make a list of threads people should or shouldn't read?

Damn troll.

And the cycle continues...

Ecclesiastes 1:14

 

[lovecraft68]

And the cycle continues...

Ecclesiastes 1:14

Another bible verse.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm my own biggest fan. Simply because I write exactly what I want to read. And I reread most of my own stories quite regularly. And you know what? Usually I'm quite impressed.

If other people enjoy my stories too, that's great. If they hate them, good for them. I know my style isn't everyone's favourite flavour. If they point out things that I can improve, that's great too, but I don't let that stand in the way of writing what I think works best.

I give you props for putting that out there. Nothing wrong with being your own biggest fan.

I'm more along the lines of the "Shit, could have done better" type. I did that thread last year where I openly admitted a lot of what drives me (in general not just writing) is being pissed off. I have a story here that has been holding the #1 all time I/T spot for the better part of two years, and I love the story, I told someone before I dropped it that it was going to 'lay waste' to the category, and it basically has. But a few months ago I thought of a sequel because I think there's some fun loose ends that could be tied up, but when thinking on the original I was hit with "Fuck! Why didn't I do that!"

I hate to call myself a perfectionist because I can be a bit of a hack in some ways, but I am from the beat myself up before you can school. It's kind of annoying sometimes.

 

[MelissaBaby]

Here's something this thread has made me think of.

Are you one of those people who are your own harshest critics? Everything you do could have been done better, even if the result here says it was a success? People gush over it, and you're like "Yeah, they're just easy to please"

Or, are you the one with a high opinion of your work and any naysayers simply don't know what they're looking at?

I think that is a false dichotomy, at least for me. I am a very harsh critic of my own work, which is one of the reasons I am a fairly slow writer. I attempt to hold myself to a very high standard and am very disappointed in myself when I fail to meet it. But when I have met it, I love my own writing and take great pride in it.

 

[Voboy]

I think that is a false dichotomy, at least for me. I am a very harsh critic of my own work, which is one of the reasons I am a fairly slow writer. I attempt to hold myself to a very high standard and am very disappointed in myself when I fail to meet it. But when I have met it, I love my own writing and take great pride in it.

Yeah, false dichotomy. I am neither of the things @lovecraft68 mentioned. I suspect most of us here defy such easy categorization.

Me thinks perhaps you are reading into what I said something that isn't there.

FWIW, when I read your post, I interpreted it exactly the same way @AwkwardMD did.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think that is a false dichotomy, at least for me. I am a very harsh critic of my own work, which is one of the reasons I am a fairly slow writer. I attempt to hold myself to a very high standard and am very disappointed in myself when I fail to meet it. But when I have met it, I love my own writing and take great pride in it.

Not really unfair because something you're not touching in your reply is my mention of are you the type that dismisses any criticism (well put, not attacks or nastiness) I think that's where the overly high opinion of one's work comes from in my statement. Can you say, "Yeah, I can see that, or got me, maybe I could have..." or just "Piss off, I know, you don't" kind of thing.

Guess the best way to put it is can you accept feedback, because some here can't and we've all seen that.

 

[lovecraft68]

Yeah, false dichotomy. I am neither of the things @lovecraft68 mentioned. I suspect most of us here defy such easy categorization.



FWIW, when I read your post, I interpreted it exactly the same way @AwkwardMD did.

Rule of thumb-although obviously our society can't seem to do this anymore they just put everyone in one box, especially politically- is its never all and its never none.

But I wouldn't say 'most' can't be classified as either. I've encountered a lot of both in the forum and in dealing with other lit authors who don't hangout here, but I correspond with.

Common example that many here have experienced. Someone reaches out to you, "Hey, like your work, can you look at a story for me and tell me what you think?" You look at it, and give them some feedback. My style is to always start out with whatever I feel they really got right and works, then I'll point out a few things that might need some work. I always put "In my opinion" somewhere in there and its my opinion they're asking in that moment. More often than not when they respond its variations of refuting everything I said up to "What the fuck do you know?" That certainly factors into my second example in the post

For that matter how many times do we get a thread where an OP asks a question, then in his replies you can tell they know the answer they want because they argue everything else.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Me thinks perhaps you are reading into what I said something that isn't there. When you think something is, the best thing to do is question, not assume. Assumptions are dangerous in that they can lead a person far astray from the truth.

Ruling myself out? how? Because of the last passage in my previous post? If you took that as self-deprecation, don't. Every last word is true. I am mostly self-taught and am still learning. Because of injuries, health issues and dyslexia it takes me 3-4 times as long to type a story as most of ya'll. But I get it done. And according to the votes and comments, I've done pretty good. And the readers who vote and leave comments are the only critics that I really care to listen to.

Can I do better? Oh hell yes! Can't we all? And I will. I get a little bit better every time I type a story. But I ALWAYS keep in mind where we are posting and what we are writing. It ain't something I'm going to share with my grandmother.

Comshaw

Okay

 

[AG31]

But if you aren't writing for an audience why bother posting it?

I generally agreed with your post about why people review the way they do, but I'd take a bit of issue with this one. I was going to say that I write for the pleasure of putting words to my fantasies, but Voboy explained it better:

I write for myself in the sense that my intended audience is a reader just like me.

I am hoping to find like minded people. So far I haven't. I've found a lot of interesting people, for sure, but not erotically like-minded.

 

[AG31]

Just by the by, @Bramblethorn's 'The Floggings Will Continue' is my default bookmarked Literotica page. Some stories hit differently, and I think that one is a perfect example of the first definition even if it doesn't quite fit the second.

How come I get "This site can't be reached" when I click on your Floggings link?

 

[MelissaBaby]

Not really unfair because something you're not touching in your reply is my mention of are you the type that dismisses any criticism (well put, not attacks or nastiness) I think that's where the overly high opinion of one's work comes from in my statement. Can you say, "Yeah, I can see that, or got me, maybe I could have..." or just "Piss off, I know, you don't" kind of thing.

Guess the best way to put it is can you accept feedback, because some here can't and we've all seen that.

Fair 'nuff.

I had to learn to accept criticism of my writing. I got kicked around a bit in Story Feedback early on, and my response was "Well, these people just don't understand what I'm trying to do..."

It took some reflection to realize that they didn't understand because I didn't do a good enough job of making them understand. Once I did, I became much better at taking criticism, and learn to use it to improve, and having, improved, I got far less negative criticism.