Haiku/poetry/writing questions/creative splurge

[dirtylover]

The door opens inside
dark space is yawning around me
stars erupt, silence


Anybody like to contribute something creative? Haiku's are 5, 7 and then 5 syllables. This is my first attempt, so I'd like to see some good ones

Also good to see some poetry and general creativity.

I'm working on a story, but am coming to the conclusion that I'm crap at writing. If anybody would like to work on a project with me, let me know.

 

[Guest]

Dl, here's some stuff from the past. In Maths' thread I reduced a number of Shakespeare's plays to haiku-like lines.

best, Perdita

Haiku SEPPUKU!

An asylum for haiku and haikuists

A haiku for my pains

 

[dirtylover]

Tx

This has been before
Ah well, nevermind, sod's law
Great haiku's galore

Thanks for condensing Shakespeare for me, he always did make much ado about nothing.

Here's sumfin different:

...time, that takes survey of all the world, must have
a stop

time must have a stop?

wow, think about that...


dynamic fluidity

butterfly flutters high
joint smoker, up in the sky
moonbeams - crystallised smoke
frog croak-s
in the pond
something scurries and hurries
a million people worry
Hess goes wandering and wondering
lost like Mozart, concealed emotions
Shakespeares witches and potions
slaves sweat turned into pyramids
mountains moving, white on top
caves here and there
trepidation displaced with insipidity
joy and wonder, grey and old
young and free
shackled with emotional wounds
life hurtling sideways, directionless
a dog called what-a-mess
childhoods, growing up, growing old
touching reality, misplaced faith
spontaneous monotony, lacerating laughter
so many questions, too many answers
God, uni-, poly-
fats, diets, fads, fathers and dads
has the human race been had
by a cockroach in a mine in Utah?
flirtations with the bizzare
circular escapisms
write it all down
get it all out
figure out, what it's all about

Then realise...

...time must have a stop

breathe in, breathe out
breathe in, breathe out

I, for one, am convinced I know what it's all about,
and that is why I laugh and cry, and scream and shout

breathe in, breathe out
breathe in, breathe out

And then I've lost it again,
just like everybody else

 

[Icingsugar]

The door opens inside
dark space is yawning around me
stars erupt, silence


Anybody like to contribute something creative? Haiku's are 5, 7 and then 5 syllables. This is my first attempt, so I'd like to see some good ones

Also good to see some poetry and general creativity.

I'm working on a story, but am coming to the conclusion that I'm crap at writing. If anybody would like to work on a project with me, let me know.

Hi! I do like your poem, very good imagery, especially the middle line.

But.. a haiku actually does not have to be in 5-7-5 form.

I thought so too until not long ago. But then I stumbled on a book about them. There are instead other rules on what a haiku can be about, and how to phrase the lines. Much more difficult than I had ever thought. There is a pretty good series of articles in the How To section that explains more about haikus:

Author: jthserra, another poet here on Lit.
What is Haiku?
Not Seventeen: More on Haiku
More on Haiku: Anthropomorphism & Suchness
More on Haiku: Books
More on Haiku: Nature & Kigo
What is Senryu?
What is Zappai?

Also, take a peek into the Poetry forum. Lots of good poetizing going on in there, always ready to sink the claws into a new poet.

best of luck, and keep on writing,
/Ice

 

[dirtylover]

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The poetry forum, why didn't I think of that? Thanks for the links, v kind.

Isn't the amateur pic forum crap BTW? I started off there, but it's just the same comments again and again....

Nice start, can I see some more? - perhaps the single, most overused comment on lit.

 

[Icingsugar]

Re: ,.

The poetry forum, why didn't I think of that? Thanks for the links, v kind.

Isn't the amateur pic forum crap BTW? I started off there, but it's just the same comments again and again....

Nice start, can I see some more? - perhaps the single, most overused comment on lit.

Never even been there. I'm more turned on by people exibiting their minds than their bodies.

The variety in replies will most probably be better over here and in Poetry. Albeit at a slower pace...

 

[Guest]

Re: Tx

Thanks for condensing Shakespeare for me, he always did make much ado about nothing.

Ah, yes, but his nothing was something else, eh?.

Perdita

 

[NoJo]

P,

Next time you're in London, check out the very funny show by the RSC (Reduced Shakespeare Company), a triple-act that do the complete works of shakespeare in an evening. Actually I think they may be playing in SF this year.

 

[Guest]

Thanks, I'm seeing 'reduced' Shakesbard this weekend, a production called "The Compleat Works of Wllm Shkspr (abridged)", in two hours. Wish the RSC would visit more often.

P

 

[Icingsugar]

Re: Re: Tx

Ah, yes, but his nothing was something else, eh?.

Perdita

Or one could say "Yes, but what a splendid ado." I was about to, but you beat me to it.

 

[dirtylover]

Re: Re: Tx

Ah, yes, but his nothing was something else, eh?.

Perdita

Oh dear, think I'm out of my depth again. The only Shakespeare I've ever read is Macbeth, although I did see Much Ado some years back. Can't for the life of me remember what the Ado was though.

I've posted previously on a 'I've quit smoking thread', does anybody know of one related to drinking? I've just drank a bottle of wine to myself, on a Tuesday night, when I have to work early tomorrow. Maybe this is what professional life is like (I'm fairly new to it).

Anyway, I've just taken a large gulp to toast all you lackadaisical writers, and another to the kind spirited posters on this thread. Cheers.

ps
So you recommend the RSC? Maybe I'll go see, seeing as I live near central London.

pps
just read your bio perdita,

quoted: ' academic interests: ecriture feminine, gender identity, theology, Shakespeare'

I don't feel so bad for not understanding now.

 

[Guest]

dl: so your interests are "hopping, kaleidoscopes, rhinos". I like all three. I have a live rabbit that hops too.

Yeah, the RSC is tops for me, see them. I've never even been to England, but it's on my list.

Don't feel bad at all, I'm only 23 years older than you, had more time to read and explore.

ta, Perdita

 

[dirtylover]

re

You're that much older than me? Well, you look much younger in your AV.

I've just finished reading Time must have a stop (I think that's what it's called anyway) by Huxley, my current favourite authour. The bit that sticks out most in my mind is where he quotes Hotspur in Shakespeare's Henry VI:

But thought's the slave of life, and life's time's fool
And time, that takes survey of all the world,
Must have a stop.

I think that may possibly be the best thing I've ever read, big up to WS ayight.

You must be able to recommend some good reads? (I like 'classics')

Also, general question, what words do you and don't you capitalise in a heading?

 

[Guest]

Re: re

dl, that pic. was taken two days ago, thanks.

I love Hotspur, and the Lancastrian tetralogy (just throw that into a conversation); it's Richard II, Henry IV parts 1&2 and Henry V, btw. Sh're has much to say about "time". I love R2, he's a favourite character also. Sometime after he's given up the crown, in a brilliant scene of course, he says, I've wasted time, and now does time waste me. That's from memory, not sure it's correct. Another fave play is 12th Night. The heroine, ensconced in a romantic dilemma, says, O time! thou must untangle this, not I; It is too hard a knot for me to untie!

As for 'good reads' I'd need to know more on your interests. PM me if you like.

The rule I know re headings is that articles and prepositions are not capitalised (unless they are the first word). E.g., Wings of the Dove, The Return of the Native.

Perdita

 

[dirtylover]

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Fantastic! You're a shrine of knowledge, I'll have to get down to the English department and steal some WS.

Recently I've read:

Blind Assassin
+ Crake (something like that) - Margaret Atwood - - quite enjoyed

A whole bunch of Aldous Huxley - love it

Candide and other tales - Voltaire - - liked them too

Therese ???- some French, 19th century writer, about some girl that grows up with an adopted family and ends up marrying her brother, and having her lover kill him - - the most haunting book I've ever read. Can't remember the author, but I can still visualise the characters perfectly.

The glass bead game
+ Wandering - -H hesse - love his stuff

Red Mars - Kim S Robinson - - -good ideas, not the best writng

Mapping Mars - Oliver Norton - - -great popular science

A brief history of time - S Hawking - - - likes his own ideas a bit too much, but v good nonetheless (is that a word?)

And probably some that I can't remember. Think that should help you know what I like

In general, I like stories that have intellectual/philosophical ideas woven into them and make you think 'Wow, yes, I like that. (Trying not to sound too pompous).

Think I might do some reading, but where does the time go? Dag nam it.

 

[dirtylover]

Therese Raquin - Zola -- -I recommend this book to everybody, I had to cover my eyes when I was reading it. Not much happens, but it sends shivers down your spine - absolutely amazing writing

 

[Guest]

dl, you're too much . I am not a shrine of anything, just have more reading years than some. Your interest inspires me. The way you write of what you like is good, I will definitely read "Therese", but oh for more time to merely read; I am always editing my "to read" list. I will think on it seriously before sending you suggestions.

In general, I like stories that have intellectual/philosophical ideas woven into them and make you think 'Wow, yes, I like that. (Trying not to sound too pompous).

Don't fret on that. I get it too (been called literary snob often) but learned not to care. WS of course fits the bill (if you will, haha); he has more to say on human reality than anyone I've read.

I know what you mean about Hawking's book. BTW, I met him once when I worked at Caltech. He came for the memorial for Richard Feynman. I love physicists and other scientists, they are some of the most creative and interesting people I know. I love finding scientific books written for the 'laywoman'. Here's one you might enjoy - The Fabric of Reality by an Oxford theorist, David Deutsch. You can read the opening paragraphs here. That should also allow you to check out his website. A very odd fellow of course .

Perdita

 

[dirtylover]

re

lol, I've just spent the last hour browsing Amazon and bought a very random selection of books, including the one you recommend.

Here's what I've ordered:

The Fabric of Reality: Towards a Theory of Everything David Deutsch;

The Making of a Poem: A Norton Anthology of Poetic Forms Eavan Boland;

House of Decadence (X Rated) Lucia Cubelli;

The Complete Stories Franz Kafka;


I'm so excited! Got caught out by the free delivery at £25 option

all fun and games

been called literary snob often

-yes, but that's because you like reading good stuff, right? I used to read indiscriminately, but now I'll only read stuff that I think will be worthwile. I mean, there's so much material out there you need to be a little choosy.

 

[Guest]

Re: re

dl, that's great, I know well how it is to get sucked in (well, doesn't take much) by the free shipping. I would love to 'discuss' Deutsch's book with you, perhaps through email? Would enjoy rereading it with that in mind.

I love Boland but haven't read that one.

I do love lots of trash 'lit' too.

Perdita

 

[dirtylover]

re

yes that sounds like a good idea, although it's probably going to be about a wk before I get the books...

I'm very excited about quantum theory, interesting to see what Deutsch has to say about it. I'm not actually a physicist, I studied biology, so the evolution stuff will probably be old hat. Always good to get fresh angles though. Have you heard of the theory of quantum consciousness?

The opening paragraphs of The Fabric of Reality resonate quite strongly with my own views, esp regards education. i.e. kids are taught facts, not how to work things out. I don't know about your education system, but ours is seriously flawed. Emphasis is placed on mediocrity owing to the need of schools to get results, i.e. kids passing exams at C grade.

Going off on one now,

I'll PM you my address...