GWB Is Up And Running....

[p_p_man]

...again.

Headline news in the UK a few minutes ago (midnight). America has walked away from another International Conference. This one is on Germ Warfare and has been called to update the system whereby inspectors visit countries to check on signs of biological warfare preparation.

The excuse is that it lays open many of the United States commercial secrets and could lead to an outbreak of industrial espionage.

It's not only Europe this time which is demonising Bush. Two or three American spokesman were interviewed (one a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee) (?). All were in agreement that Germ Warfare which could cause the death of millions is more of a threat than a nuclear attack from a hostile country (rogue nation).

But what they all found more worrying was America's new "bullying" attitude of just walking away from the table, if it doesn't agree with the subject, without making any attempt at finding a compromise or negotiating a deal.

 

[Siren]

Yep that is Bush and his policies for you

 

[WriterDom]

It's funny how Europeans can't look after the welfare of Europe with US intervention, but insist on telling us what treaties are in our interest.

And no, we aren't signing the land mine treaty either.

 

[p_p_man]

Somebody has to...

It's funny how Europeans can't look after the welfare of Europe with US intervention, but insist on telling us what treaties are in our interest.

...and it's the welfare of the world we're concerned about. Not only us but many, many Americans.

Anyway, what's with this xenophobia thing you seem to be heavily into?

 

[WriterDom]

Re: Somebody has to...

Anyway, what's with this xenophobia thing you seem to be heavily into?

I'm not making 3 anti-Brit posts a day. I might have made one about putting the Queen out to pasture and one about freeing Scotland. Aren't there enough US and Canadian socialists here to keep you happy?

And I don't think I'm an isolationist. I'm just not terribly fond of the UN. An organization that would put Sudan on a human rights commission is no better than one who would put Jeffery Dommer on a gay male rights committee, or one who would put Hitler in charge of a diversity commission.

 

[Nogard]

Let's face it, Writer Dom has a serious mental problem. He is obcessed with everything except the republicans. We can only hope he gets professional help. This individual is really sick

 

[WriterDom]

Let's face it, Writer Dom has a serious mental problem. He is obcessed with everything except the republicans. We can only hope he gets professional help. This individual is really sick

Oh, if only I were a liberal than 100 people would rush to my aid about your personal attacks.

And I know you next post will say you were only kidding.

 

[sexy-girl]

runs to the rescue of writerdom hehe


but come on the anti mine treaty ? hehe dont get me started its time for bed

 

[Nogard]

Nope, I wasn't kidding. In my opinion you have a real problem. 'nough said, I am not into attacking others but some of your garbage needs answered. IMHO you need help

 

[WriterDom]

Out of your 216 posts, a large number have been directed at me personally. Sounds like you are the one with the problem. Maybe you should talk to someone about it. Cause you aren't shutting me up, and it seems all you have to add is to call me sick.

 

[morninggirl5]

The draft accord fails to provide any deterrent to states manufacturing illicit biological weapons, Mahley said.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/25/germ.treaty/index.html


Let's see, the ban has been in effect for almost 30 years and the negotiations are now in the seventh year to determine how to implement the ban and includes NO consequences for states that violate it.

Yeah, lets keep talking about it for another seven years and sign an accord that's not worth the paper it's written on when it comes to enforcing the ban.

I'm sure those nations that are experimenting with biological weapons will stop now.

 

[Guest]

After the English over-reaction to mad cow disease, one would be foolish to trust any version of biological defense they would come up with. I would hate to be rounded up and slaughtered over such a temporary condition.

 

[p_p_man]

LMFAO!!

After the English over-reaction to mad cow disease, one would be foolish to trust any version of biological defense they would come up with. I would hate to be rounded up and slaughtered over such a temporary condition.

I couldn't agree more!!

 

[sexy-girl]

ugh too sleepy to read things (just woke up for abit) i'll qoute abit more from the news story because i think your quote didnt say tell all the story ... the jist of it for sleepy people like me is that yet again they've walked away from a treaty signing instead of neogeotiing and set it back many years perhaps ... lately they are like a spoilt child who gets annoyed when they dont get things all there own way

also i think you'll find BSE or aka mad cows diseases is quite permenment ... i think you were talking about something else

hehe going back to bed now nite nite all

The draft accord fails to provide any deterrent to states manufacturing illicit biological weapons, Mahley said.

The U.S. rejection threw the future of the talks into doubt


"Even though I understand some of the rationale, I was rather surprised by the U.S. argument at this stage," Japanese Ambassador Seiichiro Noboru told The Associated Press news agency.


Noboru said the rejection meant that efforts to strengthen the BWC would have to start all over.


"It does close the chapter on 6-1/2 years of negotiation," Indian Ambassador Rakesh Sood said.


"Whether it closes the book or not we don't know."
I am really disappointed. You really wonder what the United States thinks it has been doing for the past decade," said Professor Graham Pearson of the department of peace studies at Britain's Bradford University, who is observing the talks.


"The protocol brought benefits for all. The message that goes out now is that the world does not care about biological weapons -- the most dangerous kind of all," Pearson, a former head of the British Defence Ministry's Porton Down research establishment told Reuters news agency.


The European Union said earlier this week that while the draft accord did not meet all its concerns, it believed it would strengthen the BWC, Reuters said.

"We regret that the U.S. has decided to reject this protocol. The concern is that germ weapons talks could just sink into the doldrums," said one European diplomat. Scientists and non-governmental organisations in Geneva for the talks urged other states to ignore Washington's withdrawal and press ahead with negotiations on the draft, which had been due to go on until August 17.

 

[p_p_man]

It's not the accord...

...which is important it's the way Bush and his team have decided to treat these long standing negotiations.

As the American spokesman from the Foreign Affairs Committee said, by the way he has now been downgraded to foreign affairs expert by the BBC in later bulletins, it's the bullying, no compromise, no negotiation attitude which is "serious".

The news item has been adding bits during the night and one report mentioned that Clinton would have dealt with these situations differently. With a skill which was partly inherent and partly learnt over a period of 7-8 years in office, he would have made sure that the blame for the American decisiom would have been placed elsewhere.

That sort of tactic is commonplace and is accepted and understood by diplomat negotiators everywhere. His fellow negotiators would have shrugged their shoulders and said "We understand you had no choice - that's life".

But Bush, showing his inexperience at every turn, treats these international conferences as though they were mere boardroom battles where he can use his klout to get his own way.

Clinton's way retains allies and gains new ones, as well as achieving America's aims. Bush's way is to insult everyone who has put in years of hard work, irritates allies to the point where they are now becoming openly hostile and gains few new friends. And the jury's still out as to whether he achieves anything positive for America.

In Bush's book there is no such thing as leaving a ladder behind for your opponents to climb down and save face. His method of walking out portrays a dangerous psychological disorder.

What will hapen if he is negotiating with say, the Chinese or the North Koreans or even one of his "rogue nations", then decided he doesn't like what he was hearing and just walks away.

Most countries would take that attitude as an insult and some countries do not take insults lying down.

 

[Guest]

Clinton's way has not changed since the 60'.
America bad.
Europe good.
Soviet Union - the best. Then he would have never had had to have stepped down.

Bush knows who the real world leader is and who should come begging to who.

KISS!