Guy writing from a woman's POV

[bumblegrum]

Hi everyone. I've just started yet another mother/son incest saga, but I realised that I'm getting formulaic. A couple of commentators have kindly pointed this out to me, and I know they're correct.

So it occurs to me to try to write this from the mother's POV. QUERY - is it possible/sensible/acceptable for a male to write a story from the woman's POV? If not, why not; if so, what are the traps to look out for?

I'd love some feedback either from our female contributors or from guys who have tried it and been successful - or even unsuccessful . Or from anyone who has some ideas on the subject.

Many thanks

bumblegrum

 

[RoyceConnors]

Hi everyone. I've just started yet another mother/son incest saga, but I realised that I'm getting formulaic. A couple of commentators have kindly pointed this out to me, and I know they're correct.

So it occurs to me to try to write this from the mother's POV. QUERY - is it possible/sensible/acceptable for a male to write a story from the woman's POV? If not, why not; if so, what are the traps to look out for?

I'd love some feedback either from our female contributors or from guys who have tried it and been successful - or even unsuccessful . Or from anyone who has some ideas on the subject.

Many thanks

bumblegrum

Lots of guys are successful at writing from a female POV, as long as they understand it first. A fellow author/friend writes primarily lesbian stories and ranks well in the standings, his last series going hot on all 24 chapters, Many gay authors are female and also do well, so gender is not an issue.

 

[PennLady]

I wrote a story (King's Bay) with a male narrator. Most of my stories are in third-person, but most of those contain some sections from the guy's POV. So writing from the opposite gender's POV can certainly be done.

 

[LizHaze]

So it occurs to me to try to write this from the mother's POV. QUERY - is it possible/sensible/acceptable for a male to write a story from the woman's POV? If not, why not; if so, what are the traps to look out for?

Xarth's "Moving In & Moving On" was the first of his that I read, and I was convinced at first that he was female. That's coming from a woman. Give it a looksie.

One particular pitfall I'd watch out for is motivation, particularly in mother/son incest erotica. I've seen this turn me off a lot in F-POV writing by guys. You're going to have to think long and hard about your protagonist as a person first if you want your story to sell. I wish I could be of more help.

 

[StrangeLife]

So it occurs to me to try to write this from the mother's POV. QUERY - is it possible/sensible/acceptable for a male to write a story from the woman's POV? If not, why not; if so, what are the traps to look out for?

I'd love some feedback either from our female contributors or from guys who have tried it and been successful - or even unsuccessful . Or from anyone who has some ideas on the subject.

Tried it, but it felt too weird since I'm male. In the end I chose to switch to third person narration. I have read some really good female POV stories written by men though, so maybe you should simply try and see what comes out of it.


I guess the trap is to keep thinking like a man after you switch...

A woman will typically have a more holistic world view - she will "see more" but be less focussed on the details in what she sees. She will also be less aggressive than a man but more sneaky. She will worry more about collateral damage, e.g. in the case of an incestuous mom she will probably be conflicted because of the possible damage to her and her sons reputation. An incestuous dad will worry more about the influence on his and his daughters direct personal relation, but care less about what other people may or may not think. Finally a woman will be driven by feelings and emotions while a mans sexuality is more head on. Seducing the mom would typically involve a lot of build-up and talk while seducing the dad would be something like: "Hi! I'm naked..."

Anyway, just my two cents. Good luck. Looking forward to your story.

 

[Stella_Omega]

in the case of an incestuous mom she will probably be conflicted because of the possible damage to her and her sons reputation.

Not to mention her and her son's psyches.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The female POV is the easy, and here are the essentials:

She must have a cat.
She must spend 4 hours on the phone per day, minimum.
She must obsess over what her friends have. Her friends are the benchmark of a womans contentment.
Her life must be mired in committee meetings and social networks.
She must never be honest about anything, especially her feelings.
Life is all about appearances; as long as no one who matters see's, go for it.
Work is something you do for money.
When a bargain comes along, trade-up.
Women readily forgive a partner who cheats with a younger or prettier woman; an older or uglier woman is a personal insult.
If a woman wants you she'll come get you.

 

[damppanties]

Looks like you scraped the bottom of the barrel when it came to women in your life, JBJ. Wonder why.

 

[StrangeLife]

Not to mention her and her son's psyches.

See? I screwed up already! Nah, I think I'd better keep to the male pov... at least until I get the opportunity to take a seminar about finding my inner woman or something like that.

 

[lovecraft68]

Not to mention her and her son's psyches.

"The psyches" are not what the readers are interested in.

This is incest "literotica style" over 18, consensual, everyone has a good time, fantasy. In the stories their psyches are just fine.

 

[lovecraft68]

I've written quite a bit from female POV. All but 8 chapters of SWB are from the sister's pov.

She was an ex-junkie alcoholic and I did a lot of flashbacks to those days including her times as a hooker.

I had a ton of readers not only convinced I was a woman, but also that I was also a former addict because I nailed it so well.

I'm neither so as long as you can be convincing no worries.

But when it comes to mother/son I always went with the son. I realized why I did this was because I suppose I could see a son having misplaced desire affection even lust for his mother, but could not comprehend what it would take for a mother to begin to have those thoughts.

I challenged myself and did one and it did pretty well. I added some realism Stella would like. When the mother found out the son wanted her, she took him to a therapist.

On the other side of the coin I ave noticed almost every daddy daughter story is written in the angle of the daughter seducing the father. In discussing this with several authors and readers my conclusion is the father going after the daughter seems to have some almost rape like connotations to it, where when its mom its just some sexy milf that has the hots for her kid.

Weird mindsets in that category.

 

[DG Hear]

Hi everyone. I've just started yet another mother/son incest saga, but I realised that I'm getting formulaic. A couple of commentators have kindly pointed this out to me, and I know they're correct.

So it occurs to me to try to write this from the mother's POV. QUERY - is it possible/sensible/acceptable for a male to write a story from the woman's POV? If not, why not; if so, what are the traps to look out for?

I'd love some feedback either from our female contributors or from guys who have tried it and been successful - or even unsuccessful . Or from anyone who has some ideas on the subject.

Many thanks

bumblegrum

I've wrote a few stories with a female as my main charactor. In fact the last story I wrote (which is at the editors) is with a female lead. I've gotten feedback asking if I was a male or female author. It's fun writing from that point of view. I will admit that I don't take things to seriously. Just have fun and write what you want.
DG

 

[PennLady]

Looks like you scraped the bottom of the barrel when it came to women in your life, JBJ. Wonder why.

Indeed. I love when I see these descriptions of women that do not fit me -- or any of the women I know -- at all.

 

[lovecraft68]

Indeed. I love when I see these descriptions of women that do not fit me -- or any of the women I know -- at all.

What, you're not a horny nympho who is totally submissive and addicted to giving blow jobs and letting them cum on your 42dd tits?

Did I miss any of the things you say annoy you in stories?

 

[lovecraft68]

The female POV is the easy, and here are the essentials:

She must have a cat.
She must spend 4 hours on the phone per day, minimum.
She must obsess over what her friends have. Her friends are the benchmark of a womans contentment.
Her life must be mired in committee meetings and social networks.
She must never be honest about anything, especially her feelings.
Life is all about appearances; as long as no one who matters see's, go for it.
Work is something you do for money.
When a bargain comes along, trade-up.
Women readily forgive a partner who cheats with a younger or prettier woman; an older or uglier woman is a personal insult.
If a woman wants you she'll come get you.

My wife is guilty of #4

Although I think a lot of her friends are trying to get her to lean towards trading up.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

My wife is guilty of #4

Although I think a lot of her friends are trying to get her to lean towards trading up.

She'd be a fool to try for better.

My theory is: Beneath the barnacles gals are identical to men, and the barnacles are there to fool folks, especially men.

 

[lovecraft68]

She'd be a fool to try for better.

My theory is: Beneath the barnacles gals are identical to men, and the barnacles are there to fool folks, especially men.

Two of her friends are uppity and think I'm beneath her. They also don't like the tats and the general attitude of fuck you I exude.

Her third friend does it for selfish reasons. She thinks I'm hotter than hell and wants me to treat her like a pig.

She told me that at a party last year when she was drunk.

Wonder if I should tell her yuppie hubby?

 

[PennLady]

What, you're not a horny nympho who is totally submissive and addicted to giving blow jobs and letting them cum on your 42dd tits?

Did I miss any of the things you say annoy you in stories?

You might have forgotten the Adonis-like man with the 12" dick, but what does it matter?

 

[lovecraft68]

You might have forgotten the Adonis-like man with the 12" dick, but what does it matter?

Well I didn't want to write myself into it, ya know.

 

[LaRascasse]

What, you're not a horny nympho who is totally submissive and addicted to giving blow jobs and letting them cum on your 42dd tits?

Did I miss any of the things you say annoy you in stories?

Yes you did, LC. She has to be raging bisexual on the side and be ready to shag whichever woman crosses her path including, but not limited, to her daughter, sister, office colleagues, neighbours, PTA friends etc.

Dammit, how could miss something that obvious, man? You're getting old.

You might have forgotten the Adonis-like man with the 12" dick, but what does it matter?

Only 12??!!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Two of her friends are uppity and think I'm beneath her. They also don't like the tats and the general attitude of fuck you I exude.

Her third friend does it for selfish reasons. She thinks I'm hotter than hell and wants me to treat her like a pig.

She told me that at a party last year when she was drunk.

Wonder if I should tell her yuppie hubby?

Ah! The Snooties!

My experience with Snooties is this: They hoist their noses at decent guys then go out with a car load of Mexicans when no one's looking. Take it to the bank.

 

[oggbashan]

Some of my stories are written from a female POV, but I created jeanne_d_artois to experiment with writing as a female author.

It worked as an experiment, and some of jeanne's stories, particularly http://www.literotica.com/s/unatit and the Laundry Tales, http://www.literotica.com/s/laundry-tales-twins-charade were received kindly.

But apart from the Laundry Tales, I'm unlikely to write more female POV as jeanne. Why should I? I can write them as oggbashan.

I think this one http://www.literotica.com/s/flawed-red-silk-ch-10 as oggbashan is one of my more successful female POV stories.

 

[PennLady]

Well I didn't want to write myself into it, ya know.

I think you might be getting too deep into the fantasy aspect here and confusing it with reality.

Besides, what makes you think you have anything on Mr Penn?

 

[sr71plt]

To the OP. I have a few "female" author pen names in the mainstream and save for someone who heard me speak to one of my pen names in a book festival and who slapped a "I couldn't believe this was a male author" comment on Amazon.com, I think I pass OK. The most popular one is lesbian--but only mildly so, it concentrates on the emotional relationship between the two and the two with others and cuts when they get into bed.

Having had three sisters might help me, but I think you can do it by observing and reading stories you are pretty sure are by female authors (you never can be sure. Most GM authors are female I think, certainly a lot of the better sellers are) and are writing what you'd like to write. I think the John Gray and Barbara Tannen-authored nonfiction books are pretty accurate on basic differences between male and female perceptions.

An extreme example perhaps (and I'm only half kidding here). I was doing a review on a book by a female author (who I know to be female) last week who starts off with a dilemma that her daughter has been in a serious accident in another state. The first thing we get is what clothes the woman's going to pack and wear on her journey and later we get a guilt trip on the husband of the daughter for not spending less time at work and more time at home (when he's the sole wage earner and bills are now mountining). Now, I don't think a male writer would write either one of those scenarios, but I asked a pretty level-headed woman author if she saw anything wrong in those passages, and she didn't. So, if you carefully read what other writers of a known gender are writing, you probably can start to be able to write from the perception of the opposite gender to you.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think you might be getting too deep into the fantasy aspect here and confusing it with reality.

Besides, what makes you think you have anything on Mr Penn?

Mr Penn has 12" as well? No wonder you have a hard time finding time to write!

Just kidding, the only way a woman is getting 12" or more inches from me is if we do it twice.