grumbles....

[Sultan Mad Cat]

I know I know..... I shouldn't be critical.... I was reading last night... a romance novel you know the second hand kind... and I got about 40 pages into it.... and near on to puked the writing style took a turn for the utterly nasueas, Mind you I dont read romance novels often, but to tell a story in third person omniciant is one thing, but third person omniciant introspective, its disgusting....... okay end of my rant........ I'm thinking I'll submit something to-day....

 

[oggbashan]

But it got published and the author was paid.

That makes me sicker.

Og

 

[Icingsugar]

"third person omniciant introspective"

Say what? What does that look like? I think I need to go back to school.

 

[LorriLove]

jeez

"third person omniciant introspective"

Say what? What does that look like? I think I need to go back to school.

you and me both honey, jeez don't they talk posh round here

lorri xxxxxxxxx the thick one.

 

[Guest]

Re: jeez

you and me both honey, jeez don't they talk posh round here lorri xxxxxxxxx the thick one.

Lorri, cut that out! Your AV always makes me feel posh and omniscient.

your bitch,

Perdita

 

[Icingsugar]

Re: Re: jeez

Lorri, cut that out! Your AV always makes me feel posh and omniscient.

And that is wrong because...?

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: jeez

And that is wrong because...?

Oh, Sugar, calling herself "thick" is wrong.

Perdita

 

[Icingsugar]

Re: Re: Re: Re: jeez

Oh, Sugar, calling herself "thick" is wrong.

Ah, point taken. But then again, anything to make you feel like somewhat of a deity just might be worth it.

 

[raphy]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what "third person omniciant (sic) introspective" means...

 

[Guest]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what "third person omniciant (sic) introspective" means...

Gimme a shout when you find out.

Lou

 

[raphy]

Okay, but don't go holdin' your breath..... It might be a while.

 

[Guest]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what "third person omniciant (sic) introspective" means...

I'm going to take you seriously, Raph.

Third person omniscient means the narrator speaks about everything and everyone as if they know it all, including a character's inner thoughts (like God). The introspective is odd in that you would have the narrator talking to him/herself.

Further clarification: First person is told by the narrator as him/herself.

Second person, the narrator directs her/himself to "you" or a character.

Perdita (taught by nuns)

 

[Guest]

I'm going to take you seriously, Raph.

Third person omniscient means the narrator speaks about everything and everyone as if they know it all, including a character's inner thoughts (like God). The introspective is odd in that you would have the narrator talking to him/herself.

Further clarification: First person is told by the narrator as him/herself.

Second person, the narrator directs her/himself to "you" or a character.

Perdita (taught by nuns)

I was taking him seriously, I really didn't have a clue, either. Guess I'm not as literate as I thought.

Thanks for the explanation, it is sincerely appreciated.

Loulou

 

[Guest]

Wow, Loulou, I can't believe you didn't get that in the UK school system. I'm truly disillusioned now.

Purrditta

 

[Icingsugar]

I'm going to take you seriously, Raph.

Third person omniscient means the narrator speaks about everything and everyone as if they know it all, including a character's inner thoughts (like God). The introspective is odd in that you would have the narrator talking to him/herself.

Further clarification: First person is told by the narrator as him/herself.

Second person, the narrator directs her/himself to "you" or a character.

Perdita (taught by nuns)

Nice. I still don't get it.

Lets see, Third person omniscient does not sound at all uncommon. "Bob was feeling like the dimwit he truly was." Right?

Now how do I write that to make the 'introspective' part apply? I think that would call for such linguistic acrobatics that I would break my neck if I attempted it.

Ice (taught by Bob)

 

[Guest]

Wow, Loulou, I can't believe you didn't get that in the UK school system. I'm truly disillusioned now.

Purrditta

Maybe it is taught, at 'A' level. I took English Lit and Lang at GCSE (age 16) and achieved grade B in both. I didn't take them at 'A' level (I took Classics, History and Politics.) If it was taught at an earlier age it is entirely possible that I wasn't paying attention, I wasn't exactly a 'model' student.

Loulou

 

[Guest]

Now how do I write that to make the 'introspective' part apply? I think that would call for such linguistic acrobatics that I would break my neck if I attempted it.
Ice (taught by Bob)

Just for you, Sugar, I'll give it a go.

"Bob was feeling like the twat Becky always called him.

'Yes, he had a strong degree of twatness, but I myself have acted twatingly at times. I think my mum inspired it, all those enemas before I began walking. No, I enjoyed those, must be something else.'

"Bob was a twat sine qua non. Full stop."

 

[ffreak]

Third person omniscient means the narrator speaks about everything and everyone as if they know it all, including a character's inner thoughts (like God). The introspective is odd in that you would have the narrator talking to him/herself.

"God doesn't talk to himself?!?"

"All those wasted years as a guilty Jew - all for nothing. No wonder I failed as a mind-reader. I was really talking to myself the whole time and no one was listening. Not even me," he said.

And he was right.

 

[Guest]

God doesn't talk to himself?

Silly Eff, God doesn't need to talk to herself; she knows everything all the time.

Perdita (close to God)

 

[oggbashan]

English Education

Tatelou is a different generation.

I was taught the way English children had been taught since the 18th century.

They changed the system in the 1960s, the 1970s, the 1980s and they are still changing it.

For me Latin was compulsory. For my immediate predecessors so was Greek.

Og

 

[Guest]

Re: English Education

Tatelou is a different generation.

I was taught the way English children had been taught since the 18th century.

They changed the system in the 1960s, the 1970s, the 1980s and they are still changing it.

For me Latin was compulsory. For my immediate predecessors so was Greek.

Og

Ok, here's a slight anomaly: I was taught Latin for the first three years at my secondary school. I went to a selective Grammar School, and it was slightly retrospective in its ways. Heck, I even did Lacrosse in PE; that is one scary game! But, they didn't teach me about the third person omniciant introspective.

Loulou

 

[Guest]

Catholic schools in my day taught Latin through all grades. It was a great way to learn grammar and language structure.

I'd recommend Latin to anyone for that reason.

Perdita, ae

 

[TheEarl]

Third person omniscient means the narrator speaks about everything and everyone as if they know it all, including a character's inner thoughts (like God). The introspective is odd in that you would have the narrator talking to him/herself.

Sounds like an Iain Duncan Smith speech.

Tatelou: The way that primary schools teach English has changed recently. I missed this by a good few year, but I understand that the national curriculum require a 'Literacy Hour' in which children are taught the names of all the different tenses and stuff.

I was just taught how to use them, not what names they were given. To be honest I've picked up most of my terminology on here.

The Earl

 

[Guest]

Sounds like an Iain Duncan Smith speech.

Tatelou: The way that primary schools teach English has changed recently. I missed this by a good few year, but I understand that the national curriculum require a 'Literacy Hour' in which children are taught the names of all the different tenses and stuff.

I was just taught how to use them, not what names they were given. To be honest I've picked up most of my terminology on here.

The Earl

Yep, tell me about it! My two daughters are at primary school, and they often flumox me with the jargon they come out with, and I'm supposedly educated.
(Shhh, don't tell anyone, but I'm also a Governor at their school, in theory I should know all this stuff. Scary, eh?)

On an aside, Iain Duncan Smith visited their school last year, and the Nursery teacher literally had him jumping through hoops. The tabloid photographers got her to set him up in a shot, with him going through a child's hoop.

Loulou

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

One of you UK folks please help out your poor US cousin. How does the Rt. Hon. Mr. Smith pronounce his first name?

Rumple Foreskin