Group Sex VS Loving Wives

[Djmac1031]

So I just submitted a new story that features a married couple who enjoy picking up new partners to bring home for sex.

This time, they challenge themselves to see if they can each pick up a new partner at the same time.

I submitted it in Group Sex because I really don't feel like dealing with the Loving Wives trolls. There's no cuckold stuff, no cheating, no "burn the bitch" ending or whatever.

It's just four people who decide to get together for a night of sex.

That said, while the one couple is married, the other two just meet that night. And while they swap partners, there's no orgy of all four fucking together.

I'm curious how the Admins will see it, though.

I left a note saying I'd abide by their choice on where to publish it, of course.

But i think it's actually a good story, and I'm hoping it doesn't get trashed by stupid trolls.

I'm curious as to the nuances between the two categories. Does "group sex" HAVE to be a big orgy thing, or does two couples fucking in the same room qualify?

And if one of those couples is married, and they swap partners, does that automatically make it Loving Wives?

I guess I'll find out.

 

[lovecraft68]

I don't see why the site would move it to LW, all of my group stories here involve a married couple picking up another person to fool around with.
In LW the main focus of the genre is a wife stepping out-or for-her husband-group sex is multiple partners regardless of status.

I hope your note doesn't backfire and in some weird backwards logic they do drop it in LW.

 

[Djmac1031]

I hope your note doesn't backfire and in some weird backwards logic they do drop it in LW.

Well I suppose I could delete the note if you think that would be an issue?

 

[lovecraft68]

Well I suppose I could delete the note if you think that would be an issue?

Your call, but if you want to remove risk of it ending up in LW, do as little to call attention to it as possible. That's my opinion

 

[Djmac1031]

Your call, but if you want to remove risk of it ending up in LW, do as little to call attention to it as possible. That's my opinion

Yeah, just deleted it. I'll just roll with what they decide I guess but you're right. No sense in calling attention to it.

 

[Lifestyle66]

So I just submitted a new story that features a married couple who enjoy picking up new partners to bring home for sex.

This time, they challenge themselves to see if they can each pick up a new partner at the same time.

I submitted it in Group Sex because I really don't feel like dealing with the Loving Wives trolls. There's no cuckold stuff, no cheating, no "burn the bitch" ending or whatever.

It's just four people who decide to get together for a night of sex.

That said, while the one couple is married, the other two just meet that night. And while they swap partners, there's no orgy of all four fucking together.

I'm curious how the Admins will see it, though.

I left a note saying I'd abide by their choice on where to publish it, of course.

But i think it's actually a good story, and I'm hoping it doesn't get trashed by stupid trolls.

I'm curious as to the nuances between the two categories. Does "group sex" HAVE to be a big orgy thing, or does two couples fucking in the same room qualify?

And if one of those couples is married, and they swap partners, does that automatically make it Loving Wives?

I guess I'll find out.

You can select Group Sex, Erotic Coupling, or Loving Wives, and the Admins will put it where ever you choose.

I originally posted four chapters of my series last year to Loving Wives. When I re-wrote my series and added three new earlier chapter, I posted them to Erotic Couplings, then the re-written ones to EC or Group Sex. I only put one new chapter in the middle of the series in LW.

Everything after those three new beginning chapters is about swingers. So, the Admins don't care that much.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I put a trio story into Group Sex.

No need to worry about a vehement response - those readers are the least responsive of any category I've posted in. I won't post there again.

 

[Lovecraft_Lore]

I posted in group sex. I got 13K views, 50+ votes and a few comments.

The story in the OP sounds like a group sex story. Not a loving wives story. You could always give one of the guys two penises and call the story Erotic Horror.

 

[RachelWalsh]

I always thought group sex would be too much at once and overwhelming.

 

[RetroFan]

I put a trio story into Group Sex.

No need to worry about a vehement response - those readers are the least responsive of any category I've posted in. I won't post there again.

I had a similar experience a couple of years ago with my story 'Grumpy Humphrey's Easy Wife'. I wrote it to initially go into Loving Wives but around the time I was going to publish it the LW crowd were really angry, viciously attacking every story posted there with amazing vitriol, far worse than usual and I lost my nerve. Given the main erotic focus of the story is an orgy that the hot younger wife of a grouchy high school teacher has with his students (three male, two female, all 18 and seniors) who give their teacher a hard time in the class and play pranks on him, I thought that the Group Sex fans might like it more than the Loving Wives readers and published it there. Plus I had put in a lot of effort setting the story in 1960, and didn't want my hard work to be erased by mindless hatred.

It was a mistake, because in its new category the story flopped with mediocre scores and general indifference. The mostly negative comments against it seem to be from LW readers who found it by using tags - there was one the other day calling it 'horse shit' - and I regret not posting it in Loving Wives. At least it would have attracted some interest, even if the reaction was negative.

I wouldn't post in Group Sex again, but the most indifferent readers I've found to be Erotic Horror readers, who rarely comment or even rate stories posted there. This is surprising because writing in this category requires more imagination, but its not worth the time or effort if the readers aren't going to engage with the writers. One of my story series in this category had an authoritarian man get so angry with his slacker son that he literally exploded in a case of spontaneous human combustion, and concludes with the son later vanishing without trace never to be seen or heard of again. Not one comment about this very different plot.

 

[windar]

If a guy has multiple personalities, would sex with his wife be Group Sex? Or Loving Wives? What if one of the personalities is Black-would that be Interracial?
If he masturbates, could that be Incest since he is certainly related to himself? Enquiring minds want to know...

 

[ElectricBlue]

I wouldn't post in Group Sex again, but the most indifferent readers I've found to be Erotic Horror readers, who rarely comment or even rate stories posted there.

Gotta say, I agree with you there. I've got a long shaggy dog story in EH that has done okay score wise, and is still getting read (it was one of the first things I posted), but it's tumbleweeds in terms of comments.

Although I did discover what the University of Iowa's writing school was all about, after receiving this comment to one chapter:

by Anonymous user on 11/08/2014
Obviously, a MFA student at the U of IA in sum kinda "creative writing."

Who's into Francis Ponge and Sade.

 

[Djmac1031]

BTW: I did put a disclaimer at the top of the story stating that it features a married couple that swap and to not read it if it "offends."

I've never deleted a comment here on any story yet, but if I get some shithead who decides to complain about it or their worst criticism is "the wife is a whore" their comments are GONE.

 

[rosebudliquor]

I started posting here with a series where the different parts involve different sexual situations, so I made a point of putting each part in what I considered the appropriate category. Then I read a forum comment suggesting that all parts of a multi-part should be in the same category, and I switched. My particular fantasies fit well in LW, so I put stuff there and learned about the hate factor, and more recently about the readership differences by category. My low-scoring LW stories continue to gain readers and favorites months later. The most recent entry in the ongoing series is in Toys and Masturbation and has been at least looked at almost 2k times in a few days, with NO comments and a score high enough to earn the H, based on 8 votes. I doubt it will get many more votes. I was going to leave LW due to the trolls, but now I just categorize stories based on best fit. If four people are having sex in the same space and time, that's group sex, but if, as described, it's a couple who do extramarital sex, to me it is LW and I'd let it go there to win readers despite low scores and mean, stupid comments.

 

[Djmac1031]

If four people are having sex in the same space and time, that's group sex, but if, as described, it's a couple who do extramarital sex, to me it is LW and I'd let it go there to win readers despite low scores and mean, stupid comments.

Well at this point it's already pending publication in GS for tomorrow, and if I change it now it will delay the publishing.

I don't really care at this point, the trolls will probably find it anyway lol.

 

[Djmac1031]

Well, it's officially published, and made it to Group Sex

If you're actually interested::

https://literotica.com/s/go-for-two

 

[Lifestyle66]

Well, it's officially published, and made it to Group Sex

If you're actually interested::

https://literotica.com/s/go-for-two

Great story about the swinger lifestyle. I gave it a five, and left a comment.

 

[Djmac1031]

Great story about the swinger lifestyle. I gave it a five, and left a comment.

Thank you. My real life girlfriend and I have only dipped our toes in the 'lifestyle' really, but like my fictional couple we have had all the discussions etc needed beforehand.

We're hoping to try to get back out there soon now that COVID is finally starting to lighten up.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Thank you. My real life girlfriend and I have only dipped our toes in the 'lifestyle' really, but like my fictional couple we have had all the discussions etc needed beforehand.

We're hoping to try to get back out there soon now that COVID is finally starting to lighten up.

I decided last year to try writing a series arc based on the "lifestyle", because that gives me easy ways to introduce different kinks and personalities. The main couple meet all kinds, with my latest story "Trusted Employees" even touching on BDSM and dom/sub relationships (as did Chapter 8). Ideas for future chapters (if I continue) will even have gay/lesbian issues, and a trans at one of the house parties.

 

[elizaloo]

Enjoyed your story very much - tried to leave feedback and got 'internal server error' so I'll go back later. 5 stars. We have friends/neighbors who've approached us about 'joining in' and I'm greedily reading everything I can for *research. The Hubs is all in, I'm a bit more apprehensive. Enjoyed the way your story played out, well done.

 

[Djmac1031]

Enjoyed your story very much - tried to leave feedback and got 'internal server error' so I'll go back later. 5 stars. We have friends/neighbors who've approached us about 'joining in' and I'm greedily reading everything I can for *research. The Hubs is all in, I'm a bit more apprehensive. Enjoyed the way your story played out, well done.

Thanks. My girlfriend and I have dabbled a bit but yet to play with another couple.

Hope it works out for you. Just make sure you're open about your apprehensions with hubby.

 

[lovecraft68]

Enjoyed your story very much - tried to leave feedback and got 'internal server error' so I'll go back later. 5 stars. We have friends/neighbors who've approached us about 'joining in' and I'm greedily reading everything I can for *research. The Hubs is all in, I'm a bit more apprehensive. Enjoyed the way your story played out, well done.

Be very careful with this. In erotic stories and porn its all fun and games. But if you speak with real life swingers-the ones who do it right and aren't just looking to get with another couple and who cares about them later-will tell you, its not for everyone and a lot of ugliness can ensue, sometimes during, but more often after.

After my divorce I spent a few years running wild before I settled down again. At one point I was on adult friend finder looking for couples who wanted another guy to join in. I answered an ad, and we met...for coffee, spoke for over an hour while we felt each other out, saw if there was interest on the wife's part, if the husband felt okay with me, if I was into her etc....and we did nothing that night. We met that Friday night at their place and again, at first it was some conversation, then she came over and sat next to me, and we started very slow as if it were still a feeling out period. Sounds a little more boring than the exaggerated wildness of stories here, but its how serious couples do it.

Its in fantasy, but when reality strikes and you're watching another woman go down on your husband, when he's watching another man fuck you, that's the moment the bullet hits the bone, and you know for sure if you can deal with this. That or heat of the moment it might work, but afterwards there's a lot of doubt and wondering, was she better, was he bigger, why did my wife come harder for him, why did he fuck her so hard....

There is no turning back, my advice is if you or your partner have a shred of jealousy or insecurity between you, don't do it.

My wife and I have no interest in bringing other people in, but years ago did a soft swing with a couple. A soft swing-at least one version-is the couples watching each other have sex, but no swapping. My wife never took off her dress, she pulled the top down to show her tits, but only hiked it up when we had sex, she wasn't okay with exposing everything, the other wife on the other hand seemed as if she couldn't spread her legs for enough to put on a show, back to boundaries.

There, I have now bled the sexy out of one of the most popular porn tropes, but remember some things are fantasies for a reason.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Be very careful with this. In erotic stories and porn its all fun and games.

My wife and I have no interest in bringing other people in, but years ago did a soft swing with a couple. A soft swing-at least one version-is the couples watching each other have sex, but no swapping. My wife never took off her dress, she pulled the top down to show her tits, but only hiked it up when we had sex, she wasn't okay with exposing everything, the other wife on the other hand seemed as if she couldn't spread her legs for enough to put on a show, back to boundaries.

You described "parallel play" when the couples have sex with their own spouses while watching each other. It's basically putting on a porn show for the other couple.

Soft swap involves kissing and touching the other spouse, with no sexual penetration. Even that (watching the other husband groping your wife) can cause a lot of jealousy.

Those were the issues I tried to capture in my series of stories about swingers.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Enjoyed your story very much - tried to leave feedback and got 'internal server error' so I'll go back later. 5 stars. We have friends/neighbors who've approached us about 'joining in' and I'm greedily reading everything I can for *research. The Hubs is all in, I'm a bit more apprehensive. Enjoyed the way your story played out, well done.

I have a series of stories about that "lifestyle". You could start with chapter 4 about the couple's "mentors". But there are vastly different types and personalities of the people you might find and situation you might encounter.

 

[lovecraft68]

You described "parallel play" when the couples have sex with their own spouses while watching each other. It's basically putting on a porn show for the other couple.

Soft swap involves kissing and touching the other spouse, with no sexual penetration. Even that (watching the other husband groping your wife) can cause a lot of jealousy.

Those were the issues I tried to capture in my series of stories about swingers.

Ah, okay. Only interaction we had was some encouraging talk about how hot everyone was and some suggestions for the next position. My wife had enough misgivings afterwards for me to not think it was worth trying again, and that was kind of a right place, right time, fluke anyway mostly because we were out of town and no one knew us. I have no interest in a real swap, but I have some E&V kink going on.

The couple I mentioned in my post were about then years older than me-so at that time they were late thirties and had been in the lifestyle for a long time. They told me one horror story about a group get together that wasn't all swapping, but a mix of some husbands who just wanted to watch their wife. One guy asked if he could take a new comers wife into the bedroom with him, and he agreed, but said he'd just stay where he was, she could have fun. That was a warning sign right away, it meant he already knew he couldn't watch. Next thing you know he ends up in the room threatening the guy and calling his wife names, Good times.

I always get annoyed, and I'm sure you'll agree, with the endless "How can I get my wife to agree to a threesome of a swap" threads in other forums. The answer, you idiot, is you can't, if they're not on board and the worst thing to do is push because if a wife-or husband-does get guilted into trying it, may as well head to divorce court. I knew a woman from here, who's husband did that, and she went along with it for him, three times, all different men, and she told me she felt like a cum dumpster and told him never again, and he got mad, divorced three months later.

That's why porn and erotic stories actually fulfill a purpose, they're great catharsis for people who have fantasies that they're not sure they would ever want as a reality