Group sex or orgy stories???

[Mnkinkcpl]

I have been reading a lot of stories in the group sex category mainly because I have been asked to continue with my Game Night story and have noticed a few things.

It seems to me that most, not all, have been written by people who either have not ever actually been involved in group sex or like me have been so involved that it's rather one sided.

I'm finding it very hard to write a cohesive scene of a actual puppy pile (my wife's description) in the first person and I don't want to rewrite it as a third person narrative. Everytime I write the scene I end up hating it, it lacks the punch of the real thing.

Any suggestions on how to write in first person while encompassing all the action between all the characters would be appreciated.

Edited to add link to original story
https://literotica.com/s/game-night-25

 

[RejectReality]

Take advantage of positions to put the action in view of the narrator. Use sound and touches to convey things that are happening out of sight line. Use lulls in the action for the narrator to give them a broader view of everyone else.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

Take advantage of positions to put the action in view of the narrator. Use sound and touches to convey things that are happening out of sight line. Use lulls in the action for the narrator to give them a broader view of everyone else.

Thank you so much for the reply, those suggestions are just what I needed.

 

[jehoram]

I'm finding it very hard to write a cohesive scene of a actual puppy pile (my wife's description)

I gotta ask: what is a "puppy pile"?

 

[ScrappyPaperDoodler]

Any suggestions on how to write in first person while encompassing all the action between all the characters would be appreciated.

I’m not speaking from personal experience, but can mention a few things that have helped me write group scenes. First, an orgy is a social event. There’s space for conflict and cooperation and that typically happens between two or three people at a time. Conflict and cooperation arise when people need to overcome obstacles to reach their goal. Maybe the characters want to perform certain acts with certain people and they need to navigate towards achieving it. Maybe one couple want a bit of intimacy away from the crowd. That sort of thing... (Alternatively, an orgy might devolve into a mob mentality where all bets are off.)

This is only my opinion, but I’d advise that seeking to encompass all the action is the wrong approach. Instead of thinking about it as though you’re writing one big sex scene, I’ve found it more helpful to break things down and focus on one coupling/event at a time. This may seem like an obvious thing to say, but there’s a real urge to do the opposite (in my experience) and it requires intentional suppression.

My practical advice would be to write a short list of what you want to happen and then write drafts for each, one at time, preferably in different documents so that you don’t get distracted.

P.S. I would also love to know what a "puppy pile" is?

 

[RejectReality]

I agree that in first person, you don't want to try to capture everything. Even in third person, you don't want to get into heavy detail about what's happening with anyone other than whoever is the current POV focus unless there's a specific reason for it. ( Watching a partner engaged with someone else, or someone experiencing a same sex coupling for the first time, for example ) Brief flashes of sights, sounds, and touches of what's going on in the rest of the room better conveys the excitement than a play by play of where everybody is and what they're doing.

Details on what's happening to the narrator, and brief heated flashes of everyone else, until they're directly engaged with the narrator. You can then give more hints of what was going on. Cocks wet with pussy juice, sweat beading on the brow, faces flushed from orgasm, butts red from spanking, pussy that has already been creamed, and who was responsible for those things.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

I gotta ask: what is a "puppy pile"?

LoL a puppy pile is just what it sounds like, a pile of people interacting like a pile of puppies. Squirming, twisting and turning.

It's a hell of a lot of fun with the right people.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

(Alternatively, an orgy might devolve into a mob mentality where all bets are off.)

In my experience this is exactly what happens within the limits agreed to at the outset. ie.... No same sex or no anal etc.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

Details on what's happening to the narrator, and brief heated flashes of everyone else, until they're directly engaged with the narrator. You can then give more hints of what was going on. Cocks wet with pussy juice, sweat beading on the brow, faces flushed from orgasm, butts red from spanking, pussy that has already been creamed, and who was responsible for those things.

I think I am going to try writing it like this. Thanks again for the insightful help.

 

[MrPixel]

LoL a puppy pile is just what it sounds like, a pile of people interacting like a pile of puppies. Squirming, twisting and turning.

It's a hell of a lot of fun with the right people.

Or the genteel version more suited to two couples, nude Twister. However, I have run across XXL Twister mats with the wink-wink-nudge-nudge implication of similar activity with a much larger group. I may have even seen one an adult toy store. Fun premise as an "excuse" which culminates in a puppy pile.

It's been my observation from 40 years of on and off swinging that puppy piles are a very rare occurrence. It takes a group of several - six or usually more - of very like build and mind for it to be any fun. You're not going to mix mature swinger types with college kids, for instance. The closest I've come in my GS stories to a puppy pile was a chocolate-syrup-and-whipped-cream orgy of middle-aged adults. They weren't able to save the carpeting.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

Or the genteel version more suited to two couples, nude Twister. However, I have run across XXL Twister mats with the wink-wink-nudge-nudge implication of similar activity with a much larger group. I may have even seen one an adult toy store. Fun premise as an "excuse" which culminates in a puppy pile.

It's been my observation from 40 years of on and off swinging that puppy piles are a very rare occurrence. It takes a group of several - six or usually more - of very like build and mind for it to be any fun. You're not going to mix mature swinger types with college kids, for instance. The closest I've come in my GS stories to a puppy pile was a chocolate-syrup-and-whipped-cream orgy of middle-aged adults. They weren't able to save the carpeting.

You are correct!

Most of the "puppy piles" we have been involved in were arraigned, either as house parties with very well selected guests or after off-premises parties again with carefully selected guests.


Most of them set up by my wife.

Funny though was your comment on ages. We almost always had a good range from barely legal to mid fifties.

This might be because most of the unicorns we knew were younger and liked older people. We cultivated those relationships because we both like fmf and ffm threesome's.

 

[Athalia]

LoL a puppy pile is just what it sounds like, a pile of people interacting like a pile of puppies. Squirming, twisting and turning.

It's a hell of a lot of fun with the right people.

That sort of describes the "oil orgy" that Jehoram wrote into one of the recent stories I edited. I can't remember the name off-hand. And another one he wrote, called "The Midnight Club," had an orgy setting, but IIRC the story was told through two of the main characters, who only described what was happening to them. The stories seemed to work for me, possibly because he usually leaves much to the reader's imagination without going through each wriggle and thrust.

 

[TadOverdon]

I find the descriptive logistics of it nearly on a par with pronouns in lesbian sex scenes. LOL

Focus on a few of the players and fill the scene description out with snippets of what various other people are doing in the background. It's like Welles' theatre crowd in "Citizen Kane;" sure, you've got fifty people in the room, but there are really around...six.

 

[djrip]

I've tried to do a few of these. I read your linked story, it was good! For myself I try to spend plenty of time describing everything, taking the time to develop each moment with a few details. Especially in first person (I do 3rd), I would try to bring in sounds, smells, touch, sight, that the viewpoint character is experiencing in each moment.

Intersperse more dialog to break up the action. One character says something out loud. Another whispers something in someone's ear, close enough for the viewpoint character to hear it.

I try to circulate among the cast, mention what each participant is doing, then the next, then the next, not in the same order or anything, but trying not to leave anyone out for too long.

The scene you wrote could easily have been three lit pages, with more description of what everyone looked like, more casual dialog establishing friendly relationships. You can get across some past history between the characters without info-dumping it that way as well, with casual things they say to each other. And then more terse dialog about what they are doing to each other, or giving instructions to each other, during the action. Also more mentions of what the viewpoint character is thinking or feeling about things that are happening around her at each step in the scenario.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

The scene you wrote could easily have been three lit pages, with more description of what everyone looked like,

I had to chuckle at this because I usually do complete character descriptions in a separate document as I add them so I don't get confused. And I did it for this one as well then decided not to describe them.

It was pure laziness on my part of course.

 

[djrip]

Of course you don't always want too much description, it can get boggy. A quick, punchy style can be great too at times.

 

[Imstillfun]

I have been reading a lot of stories in the group sex category mainly because I have been asked to continue with my Game Night story and have noticed a few things.

It seems to me that most, not all, have been written by people who either have not ever actually been involved in group sex or like me have been so involved that it's rather one sided.

I'm finding it very hard to write a cohesive scene of a actual puppy pile (my wife's description) in the first person and I don't want to rewrite it as a third person narrative. Everytime I write the scene I end up hating it, it lacks the punch of the real thing.

Any suggestions on how to write in first person while encompassing all the action between all the characters would be appreciated.

Edited to add link to original story
https://literotica.com/s/game-night-25

I use dialogue to bring characters in. If you describe what a person says you can describe what they’re doing as they say it.

 

[Defluer]

I've struggled with this plenty of times. And while I've never been part of any sort of group sex, I've watched porn. (Not that that is the same thing) I purposely don't watch group sex porn because it's got the same problem that I find when I'm trying to write it, too much is going on. I have stopped so many stories that get into group sex, because it's just too much for me. I've tried to think how to "easily" handle it all but failed. Do it all chronologically? Tell each group, section, or persons snippet? Just write it from the MC's POV and ignore everything when they're distracted? (I think that's basically what I've done.) Probably why I wouldn't be good IN any group sex stuff. I'd just get overloaded (hehehe) and at the end it would be like a dream, "There was somebody with big boobs, I remember that. I definitely got off... I think somebody sucked my nipples. And... There may or may not have been a redhead. Maybe. Yes. No. Brown or red hair. For sure."

 

[Kumquatqueen]

What's the actual story going on? If you have a narrator, then you can tell everything from their POV, what's happening to their body, who they're touching, what they can see and what they think about it. Part of being in a group is not knowing exactly what is going on. "Beyond my feet, I saw Linda throw her head back and moan. Someone must be going down on her. Jim, perhaps? I'd have to ask her later. Meanwhile I felt someone else add their hand to Jen's on my cock. I lay back, my face in Mindy's fabulous cleavage, and never got round to wondering whose."

Someone might be doing something with X when you'd have expected them to be with Y. They might be nervous, embarrassed, happily smug that their ex is on the other side of the room and jealous, unbelieving that they have so many people wanting to fuck them, or glorying in their lifestyle that includes such parties.

Then check every pronoun to ensure its clear who or what every 'his', 'her' and 'its' belongs to. Confusing situations need to be written as clearly as possible. Having written a few group scenes, I've decided that if more than two people of the same sex get together, they'd better find out each others names next time. Horrible time trying to sort them all out!

 

[Bramblethorn]

It seems to me that most, not all, have been written by people who either have not ever actually been involved in group sex or like me have been so involved that it's rather one sided.

I'm finding it very hard to write a cohesive scene of a actual puppy pile (my wife's description) in the first person and I don't want to rewrite it as a third person narrative. Everytime I write the scene I end up hating it, it lacks the punch of the real thing.

Any suggestions on how to write in first person while encompassing all the action between all the characters would be appreciated.

I'm not sure how well those two things fit together.

IME, even with only three or four in the bed, it's difficult to keep track of everything that's going on between all the participants at once. Trying to write that from a first-person perspective means giving your narrator information that they probably wouldn't know, or at the least wouldn't be focussed on.

If you don't want to rewrite in third person, my first inclination would be to write something leans into that first-person viewpoint, focussing on that person's experience and not attempting to describe absolutely everything that's going on. Occasional glimpses of the other action can help the reader keep up with the gist of it, if not the blow-by-blow detail.

(This is more or less what I did in "The Floggings Will Continue", though that's not quite the same kind of group scene - it's a threesome happening in the foreground with other things going on in the same room.)

 

[Imstillfun]

I wrote a story where the narrator is also a participant. “Watching the pool party.” in that story she describes the action as if she had sat back and watched it, while she is talking about her participation.

the story is rated 4.58 with over 350 favorites. The sex scene is less than a page so might be worth checking out.

 

[jehoram]

That sort of describes the "oil orgy" that Jehoram wrote into one of the recent stories I edited. I can't remember the name off-hand.

Oh, yeah. That one. "Our Family's Little Secret." There are two of them, one in chapter 5 and the other in chapter 7. I guess you'd call them puppy piles. There's also a "mini-orgy" in chapter 4.

And another one he wrote, called "The Midnight Club," had an orgy setting, but IIRC the story was told through two of the main characters, who only described what was happening to them. The stories seemed to work for me, possibly because he usually leaves much to the reader's imagination without going through each wriggle and thrust.

That's the one where I credited Athalia as the co-writer, and it was her suggestion to dial back on the specifics of the sex acts. That was because I was writing from a female POV. I'm still kicking around the idea of telling the third MC's story through his eyes, which would be a definitely male POV.

 

[Mnkinkcpl]

Don't have time today to thank each of you individually, but thanks to all for the suggestions and advice.

 

[Amy_66]

I wrote a story once called 'The four-year orgasm.'

The premise was that at various times over the MCs four years in college 20 to 30 people in a particular dorm had a running sex party where people joined in-- like the MC after being vetted. They played, went to class, played, went to the library, played, went to sleep, played, went to meals... in various combinations that changed each day due to schedules and assignments and with each new semester... when some "older" players graduated, and new ones were vetted to replace them.

 

[LiverpoolMaster]

Group sex in your "puppy pile" orgy sense, no, but I've definitely written a few stories concerning "organised" situations and enjoy describing the whys and wherefores of how they come to pass and what happens. This has often involved some taboo aspects and has, in my view, been rendered all the spicier for that.