Gridlock nation

[renard_ruse]

In coming years, traffic jams and gridlock will only get worse.

Population will increase by hundreds of millions in the next 50 years, almost all of it in urban areas. There's no money for roads because we spend it all on social programs for the poor and on foreign wars against imaginary enemies.

Traffic and gridlock will eat up America like a giant fungus.

 

[kbate]

New roads require a taking of private property for public use. fucking statist.

 

[renard_ruse]

New roads require a taking of private property for public use. fucking statist.

Damn straight. Limited government, not no government. Screw the Cato Institute.

 

[kbate]

A smarter move would be to increase internet access and security in order to permit more people to telecommute and work without driving to an office. If we could get 30% of the service industry into telecommuting, we'd meet our 'carbon dioxide goals' and wouldn't need a new road anywhere.

 

[Super-Surprise]

A smarter move would be to increase internet access and security in order to permit more people to telecommute and work without driving to an office. If we could get 30% of the service industry into telecommuting, we'd meet our 'carbon dioxide goals' and wouldn't need a new road anywhere.

The world needs more kbate's in order to succeed!

 

[eyer]

In coming years, traffic jams and gridlock will only get worse.

Population will increase by hundreds of millions in the next 50 years, almost all of it in urban areas. There's no money for roads because we spend it all on social programs for the poor and on foreign wars against imaginary enemies.

Traffic and gridlock will eat up America like a giant fungus.

Do not fret, dear ruse...

...personal passenger drones will make a Jetsons future finally come true.

At least for the already sparsely populated outlands...

...the rat-packed city dwellers have no future but cannibalism.

 

[bronzeage]

New roads require a taking of private property for public use. fucking statist.

More cars and more roads are the only solution, because cars are the only way to get one person where they want to go.

 

[kbate]

More cars and more roads are the only solution, because cars are the only way to get one person where they want to go.

Make me president and you can choose between horse or telecommute. Cars will be taxed by the mile and parking by the square inch.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Actual statistics show population growth slowing.



Besides, we're going to have all that light rail...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Make me president and you can choose between horse or telecommute. Cars will be taxed by the mile and parking by the square inch.

Let me be the first to assassinate you.

 

[kbate]

Let me be the first to assassinate you.

You should edit, being on my terror watch list won't be like being on President Obama's.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You should edit, being on my terror watch list won't be like being on President Obama's.

S'ounds like you have a bleedin' red line there Yank...

 

[kbate]

S'ounds like you have a bleedin' red line there Yank...

Something like that.

No street parking for cars. No trucks over 20 feet inside urban zones, large parking garages on outskirts (with guards to piss you off for employment programs), more rail, more buses into the cities. . . no more roads, tax credit for motorcycles, bicycle exchanges throughout the cities, etc..

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Why not just block off all the Interstates, blow the bridges and force people back onto the rails that are positioned right off of Main Street Mom and Pop Americana?


It would be a two-fer as Walmart owns the Interstate.


You could fuck them; royally screwed!


Not in the good way...

 

[kbate]

Why not just block off all the Interstates, blow the bridges and force people back onto the rails that are positioned right off of Main Street Mom and Pop Americana?

It would be a two-fer as Walmart owns the Interstate.

You could fuck them; royally screwed!

Not in the good way...

Because that wouldn't work with 320,000,000 people living in suburbs and having built the rural zones into mini-cities and towne-centres.

There is no undo on 50 years of bad development planning.

Rail was only first because rail came before the interstate, not because it was better than the interstate. The Horse came first and the horse went where the rider wanted it to go, not where the rail said was worth a stop. The horse then stopped near towne and was stabled for a few dollars in a (sometimes public sometimes private) stable while the owner went into town and did business, shot bad guys, robbed banks and drank in taverns.

I'm only providing for the car to be stabled - except at the 12, 24 and 36 mile from town lines rather than in town.

rail was nice when lumber went to New York, beef to Chicago and ore to Pittsburgh, but now things are a bit more distributed and that's that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Fuck the suburbs.

They are dirty, they pollute and they are full of haters.

Make them move closer to work, put their Outlet stores out of business and level the playing field...





:caning:

 

[kbate]

Fuck the suburbs.

They are dirty, they pollute and they are full of haters.

Make them move closer to work, put their Outlet stores out of business and level the playing field...

Ah, so collectivism. Good plan.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Uh, no. All of you got it wrong.

The simple solution is efficient utilization of space. As in large mid-rise 'malls' where residential is located on one level, commerce is located on another level, recreation is located at the top, industry & transportation is located at the bottom, and schools-hospitals-courts-etc are located above the industry level. Within the complex transportation is via escalators, elevators, trams, and golf carts. Transport tween complexes is via monorail, with passenger-freight-rail links.

I estimate we'd release about 1/2 our present congestion to agriculture/wilderness reclamation.

 

[kbate]

Uh, no. All of you got it wrong.

The simple solution is efficient utilization of space. As in large mid-rise 'malls' where residential is located on one level, commerce is located on another level, recreation is located at the top, industry & transportation is located at the bottom, and schools-hospitals-courts-etc are located above the industry level. Within the complex transportation is via escalators, elevators, trams, and golf carts. Transport tween complexes is via monorail, with passenger-freight-rail links.

I estimate we'd release about 1/2 our present congestion to agriculture/wilderness reclamation.

I can only suppose that the crematory is located in the floor beneath the industry and the human-to-food-reprocessing system is located below that?

Ultra-collectivism. Another great plan.

 

[mercury14]

Canals were never given a fair shot. I say trench up the whole country and subsidize canoes for everyone. Think of the obesity cured from the calorie burn or from fat people drowning.

 

[waffen4threich]

The world needs more kbate's in order to succeed!

Shut the fuck up. You only make sense when posting pics.

 

[mercury14]

In coming years, traffic jams and gridlock will only get worse.

Population will increase by hundreds of millions in the next 50 years, almost all of it in urban areas. There's no money for roads because we spend it all on social programs for the poor and on foreign wars against imaginary enemies.

Traffic and gridlock will eat up America like a giant fungus.

We have money for transportation. It's a matter of priorities. A major infrastructure bill would lead to a jobs surge and a boost in demand for commodities and manufactured goods so we'd actually get a return on the investment. Maybe get a space elevator out of it too...

Maglevs.

The Jetson drone.

Solar-powered subways to China through the earth's core.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I can only suppose that the crematory is located in the floor beneath the industry and the human-to-food-reprocessing system is located below that?

Ultra-collectivism. Another great plan.

Its one of Hitler/Speer's better ideas. They tried it and it worked well. But we need not make it collectivist except for the public spaces (as we now have it). WALMART would lease space as would Kbate Kosmic Kosmetix.

 

[kbate]

Its one of Hitler/Speer's better ideas. They tried it and it worked well. But we need not make it collectivist except for the public spaces (as we now have it). WALMART would lease space as would Kbate Kosmic Kosmetix.

Will we have to sing patriotic anthems to the company or building owner every morning before filing into the exercise room for communal training (A-D) at 6:00 am.

 

[ChinaBandit]

I am moving to a town in northern Mass that has 3300 residents and 75% of the land is designated as "conservation." Yes, a lot of saltmarsh and wetlands. Of course, I am on a hill. A series of very calculated decisions on my part.