Greed

His_kitty

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*Disclaimer - this is a vent of my frustrations over the past few days*

2002 Was quite possibly the worse year of my life.

On Mother’s Day my husband and I separated. His temper got the better of him one too many times that evening, except this time he let go in front of our ten year old son. I had warned him repeatedly that I wouldn’t stand for our child to see those behaviors as I had to when I was a child. Unfortunately he was/is unable to control himself and he came unglued over something that was actually really trivial - I knew he’d been quietly building himself up into a rage for days -

That night I asked him to leave, and thankfully he did. The next few months were very hard but we got through them okay. My son missed his father and I allowed him (the ex) very lenient visitation because he is the most important person in our lives. I knew that nothing was ever going to be the same, that the family he’d known all his life, was over. So I tried everything to keep some normalcy. He went to his fathers every weekend from Friday after school until Sunday night, occasionally staying so that his father drove him to school the following day. I never restricted phone calls or activities that our son was in, always giving him the schedules of those so that he could be in attendance as well. He actually was more of a participant in our child’s life more than he had been before Mother’s Day.

Most already know that our home burned down on Christmas night. We literally lost everything. Everything that I, or my mother, had ever saved from my own childhood was in the home. Everything that my son had saved, cherished, played with and loved was lost.

Two months prior I had packed up the ex’s belongings and handed them over, with the exception of some baseball cards he’d had since he himself was a child and a few misc. tools in our basement. All of the furniture was either mine or my sons (the ex had admitted this to me during a meeting we’d had in September concerning our joint assets ) given to us as gifts in one fashion or another.

After the fire he sat across my mothers dining room, as we tried to list the contents of the home to give to our insurance agent, took my hand in his and said that the insurance check for the contents was rightfully mine. That he was going to sign it over to me. I told him that at least $2000 was actually his, because he had lost the baseball card collection and those few items, he repeated no.. that he didn’t want it. It was to be ours because we’d lost it all.

I was surprised by this. In the months after our separation he’d closed joint savings accounts, emptied most of the money from our checking account and took out most of the contents from our safe deposit box we’d held jointly. I admit I was naive. I didn’t fight hard enough. But I had been through so much and I just didn’t have it in me anymore to fight.

Tuesday morning we set off to the bank that held the loan on our mortgage. On the ride he asked me what I thought we should do about the monies left over after our home and property were paid off. Surprised by this I said, “Well since it was both of our home, the deed is in both of our names.. we of course will split it.”

He got very quiet before telling me how he’d gotten up and gone to work for the past 8 years (as long as we’d own the home) and how his paycheck had paid the payment every month on it. My response was , so? I had stayed at home raising our son, taking care of the house.. just as we had agreed that I would do when we married and had a child. Just as he continued wanting me to do after our son was in school. I did work outside of the home for a period of a year but he’d made that almost impossible. Complaining and making me feel as though I was neglecting our son. I ended up quitting. But six months later, after he complained about our money situation, I offered to go back to work and he said flat out he’d divorce me if I did.

Does my staying at home and raising our child, taking care of everyone’s needs not qualify as contributing to our family? Apparently that’s his belief now.

He said that he was giving me the insurance money for the contents of the home. Giving me I asked. I didn't suddenly win the lottery or come into an inheritance. This money is coming in because of a horrible fire that was beyond my control.

I’m not going to get into the amounts of the money involved, other than to say that by most peoples standards they are not much. The amount between the two insurance policies differs by only a thousand and five hundred in my favor. But what little there is would give myself and my son a down payment on another home. Which is my ex’s argument. That the amount left over after we pay off the bank would give him a start. I don’t think I’m a greedy woman, but I need to protect my rights, not to mention my child’s.

After he told me that he thought he deserved that insurance check I was in tears. I don’t know why I was so shocked really, but I was. I never imagined that the check for the actual dwelling would be in question, I worried that he’d try and go after the check containing the money for half the contents. Even though morally he had no claims.

So I informed him that I would be getting a lawyer and I’d let a judge decide who gets what. I might end up getting less than I would if I just went along with him, but something in me can’t not fight, which is out of my character. I always just walk away from fights unless I feel a friend of mine or God forbid my son, needs my words to protect them.

Sorry for taking up bandwidth but I needed to just get this off my chest.

So my question to ya'll ... know any ruthless divorce attorney's in West Virginia? lol
 
His_kitty said:

So my question to ya'll ... know any ruthless divorce attorney's in West Virginia? lol


There's nice ones?


*THUMP*


Best of luck to you.
 
Re: Re: Greed

HeavyStick said:
There's nice ones?


*THUMP*


Best of luck to you.



Ooo my aren't you brave? What with all the lawyers about. :D



Thanks doll.
 
(((((((hug)))))))

I dont know you very well but sounds as if you could use it.

Good luck I say fight for what you know you should get. A stay at home mom is just as much of a job as any other.
 
tyme said:
(((((((hug)))))))

I dont know you very well but sounds as if you could use it.

Good luck I say fight for what you know you should get. A stay at home mom is just as much of a job as any other.


Thank you tyme.. I really could use a hug.




I've bookmarked them Heavy, in the morning when my mind is fresh I'll research them. Thanks for taking the time and trouble.


I'm not really brave James. I'm tired of fighting, I just want to be left be, y'know? It just seems like it's one thing after another and its never going to end. But you were a sweetheart to say it.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are strong, and yes, brave too. I know you don't necessarily believe that right now, but I also know that you will do whatever you have to do when it comes down to the well being of your son and this certainly qualifies as that. I also know you have a loty of people on your side.:)
 
you will end up giving the money to two greedy lawyers...try working out among yourselves or go to binding mediation.
 
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Well legally you are entitled to an equal amount of the money and the fact that he wants most of it isn't surprising. Fight for what's yours. You have a child to think about.
 
sufisaint said:
you will end up giving the money to to two greedy lawyers...try working out yourselfs or go to binding mediation.



Well this will be settled in divorce court, a place we were already heading to. This is just one more thing that will need to be settled.

Which btw he filed papers on me, I tried to work this out between ourselves and even mentioned a mediator .. he went out and got the most vicious lawyer in our county instead. *shrug*

thanks ya'll .. I just needed to vent. Sometimes putting down thoughts helps me to think and see things a bit clearer.
 
Re: Hey sweetie

LionessInWinter said:
I'm sorry you're having a rough go. Add my hug to the pile.

One thing maybe you should stop to consider before you move ahead to a fight with him over this is what it's going to cost you to let yourself become angry. He's pulling out all the stops now because he sees his control vanishing with the wind. You don't really say what his bad behaviors are, but it must be bad enough for you to have taken the steps you needed to to extricate yourself and feel healthy again. If you step back into his court of meanspiritedness, then it's back to playing by his rules. Emotionally, that means that you're going to have to start from scratch, and you're tired already.

I know that sounds like you're laying down for him, but really, it's the opposite. In the long run, you finding a way to earn that fifteen hundred and get that house on your own will give you a belief in yourself that no one could ever take away. Especially because you didn't have to get ugly to achieve it. And it does one other important thing too: it stops the hostilities from escalating. Once the battle starts for money, it's bound to run over into custody and and and. You know who will suffer most from that.

Let him get his start. Maybe he'll see his way clear then to help out with your child so that you can work and not pay sitters. That could be part of the divorce settlement. Why don't you ask him to keep being involved like he's been with your child and tell him you don't want a fight?

Damn, I forgot that you were in West Virginia! I drove right past you on Saturday and Tuesday! Well, I was on 77 anyway, but heck, if I do another solo road trip and you're close to my road, I'd love to pop in and do lunch!

You go, girl!
L.

HK...........I don't know you............those chance encounters here....but, no..........but lioness has a point.......god, I don't want this to sound trite.............but.........you need to get on with your life......and your son's.............to spend too much time back being frustrated..........I am so not the one to advise.....but look ahead, and focus on that...........leave what was.........do your best to move beyond..............I wish you the best........you deserve it so.............
 
I am so very tired Lioness. I rarely let things get me down, I try and see the good side in things, the positive, but this has been so trying. Coupled with the fact that I just feel so alone.


It's already gotten ugly. He already filed for divorce and for custody of our son back in October, though he said that he's actually only seeking joint custody. Something that WV no longer has. lol It's called primary and secondary custody.

What I found so ironic is that before we arrived at my home he said that he shouldn't be punished for my doing the majority of child rearing. But yet he feels as though he is entitled to the entire money from our home because I stayed and raised our son while he worked?

As for whatever happens between us, I'll never stop him from seeing our child. Because it woudn't be whats best for our son. I can't be selfish like that.

And 77 runs right up near me, well about an hour away and around here that's nothing! lol Let me know if you drive it again, and we'll meet up if you'd like. :)



:kiss: thanks Jimmie
 
HeavyStick said:
She does want me, but don't worry about us JMJ.


LMAO



See if I tell you anymore secrets. ;-)



:p James.. ya know ya really wanna know. :D




Greybeard I know, and I do agree. I don't let stuff get me down, or at least for long. I am a very forgiving person by nature.. and while I'm all riled up now.. give me a day or two and I'll cool my jets. Hopefully not so much so that I'm a doormat though. :)
 
I would make sure he is facing the simple fact that any money you get isnt just for you but to provide for your son. That your intent is to reestablish a home for him, and you... to get back to having a life in which your son can be a kid, focus on school, and generally grow up to be a helluva guy.

Best wishes and good luck.
 
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