Go For A Swim On Mars....

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Despite all the eggheads saying "no way", Mars likes to tease.

Do you think it's ripe for terraforming?
A few plant spores from the Arctic perhaps?

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New images and analysis suggest the slopes around the Red Planet's largest extinct volcano, Olympus Mons, contain dark stains caused by brine flowing down hill.

The discovery indicates that the substantial underground ice deposits on Mars can sometimes melt and flow across the surface.

It is bound to increase speculation that life may exist near to the surface of the planet.

According to researcher Tahirih Motazedian, of the University of Oregon, US, it is the first time that changes on Mars have been seen due to water.

She told BBC News Online that she had examined images of Mars taken at different times and had seen new streaks form within time intervals of months.

She speculates that geothermal activity driven by volcanic heat may be causing the melting of subsurface ice.

The water dissolves surrounding minerals to form a super-saline brine which, because it contains salts, can remain liquid at lower temperatures and pressures than pure water can.

When the brine trickles on to the surface, it flows downhill staining the surface.

"The streaks originate from distinct geologic horizons below the Martian surface, where the water-ice table has been intersected by crater and valley walls," she said.

Significantly, the dark streaks are never overlain or cut by other features like craters or sand dunes, just as if they were made by water marking the surface.

"They passively overlay existing features except where they are forced to flow around obstacles," she said.

The dark streaks always begin upslope as point and widen downslope, just like flowing water.


The streaks have the same dispersive patterns that liquid water has when it flows downhill, "highly indicative of dynamic fluid flow", says Tahirih Motazedian.

Images taken of the Mangala Valles region show that the dark streaks are being formed at the present time.

Two images taken a few months apart show new streaks have appeared.

"This demonstrates the existence of a currently active, short-term process of surface change on Mars," the researcher said.



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Re: Re: "You got what you want.."

Lancecastor said:
That Phil Dick writes a mean short story...

I liked "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" especially the religion of "Mercerism" with its adherents going through the same tortures as their prophet.


Makes you wonder how many people would follow some of the world's other religions if they did the same thing.
 
I'm all in favor of terraforming it. It starts with scattering soot or otherwise blackening the surface to hold more solar energy, raise the temp to defrost. There would be a sea on each pole. Then seed it with lichen to create an atmosphere.

The sooner we get started, the better.
 
What is with the mentality of colonizing everything and everyplace????

This disgusts me.
 
Just tell W and Cheney that there's oil under the surface, and I'll bet that there are oil derricks up there in no time.
 
badasschick said:
What is with the mentality of colonizing everything and everyplace????

This disgusts me.

It's a family tradition. Some crossed over the Berring Straights bridge & headed for the east coast, , some crossed the Atlantic & moved west. It's usually about wanting a better life for your children & grandchildren, free from starvation, religious persecution , & war.

I'd rather have us become a two planet species than set up a space-based weapon system as a meteor defense.
 
With the amount of money we are going to spend on this war we could probably send a mission to mars. I think this would be a much better way to spend the money. :)
 
Lazarus1280 said:
With the amount of money we are going to spend on this war we could probably send a mission to mars. I think this would be a much better way to spend the money. :)

I volunteer! I gotta get off this planet.

Please? I'll go as cook, love slave, gunner, love slave, engineer assistant, love slave....anything!
 
Nathon_88 said:
I volunteer! I gotta get off this planet.

Please? I'll go as cook, love slave, gunner, love slave, engineer assistant, love slave....anything!
Whoa - good point! Can I tag along too? I wouldn't mind the nine month trip there. Seriously! Just so long as the toilet compartment is jetisoned periodically.
 
badasschick said:
What is with the mentality of colonizing everything and everyplace????

This disgusts me.

That's okay...it's because you're from Venus.

I'm with you; I think the place has great atmosphere...and waaaaay hotter chix.
 
I saw the pictures and read the article in this month's SciAm. Some of the flows look like something, but are pointed at each end. Water spreads as it flows, doesn't it? It certainly isn't the stuff agriculture is made of...
 
I haven't read any Phil Dick stories. I love sci-fi films, but don't read it much. My mind has a hard time wrapping itself around some of the description presented in sci-fi fiction. I can't envision it very well, which speaks very poorly of my imagination, I think. Either that or sci-fi authors are writing for people with more scientific expertise than I have.

But I've noticed how many of his stories are made into films. Last night I saw "Impostor" and liked it quite a bit, despite the obvious limitations of its budget and the sometimes crappy editing.

(mental note: pick up some Dick. To read. ;) )

Landing on the Lunar surface,
Ellie
 
SCI-FI Alert........

The Sci-Fi channel will debut "The Children of Dune" this Sunday.
I guess it's the sequel to "Dune." (duh)

Since we're talking about Martian climate and life, I thought this was appropriate to interject.
 
Current Martian Weather Reports...

http://www.marstoday.com/

As long as I could get my Harley to run there, with plenty of gasoline, I could heat that planet up within a couple of years!
Now the eggheads are saying/guessing Mars has a molten iron core, geez, they never quit. (The info is on the above Mars link)
 
Planetary comparison, Earth vs Mars...

A real argument for terraforming, it could be done!

http://www.spaceref.com*********.ref?url=www.atm.ox.ac.uk/user/lewis/mars/marstable.html&id=39
 
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