Globalizing the Intifada

[Wilson23]

You don't have to rely on Bible or the Koran to know that the Jews are indigenous to Israel. There's ample archeological evidence -- ancient Jewish cemeteries, ancient Jewish temples, ancient Jewish coins.

All made by those who were also the ancestors of the Palestinians.

 

[Wilson23]

So the Old Testament lies when the story is told of Jews crossing from Egypt and being granted the 'Promised Land' as their inheritance, and told to kill all the peoples already living there.

Yes, it lies. The Israelites were never in Egypt.

 

[Chernosoth]

The Jews were nomads in frequent skirmishes for water rights, grazing rights, and livestock. They gradually became more settled in built structures, and then they spread around the world. Now there's climate change with sea level rise. Highly coveted land could be abandoned as other land becomes more habitable. The whole Gaza Strip could be under water. Some of it is flooded now. The Jews could stop caring about one little patch of scrubland any one of these centuries, especially as many of them return to their herding roots on the prairie, savannah, taiga, and maybe even Antarctica.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

All made by those who were also the ancestors of the Palestinians.

There is no cultural continuity between the ancient Canaanites and the modern Palestinians. The Palestinians speak Arabic and practice Islam—a foreign religion. Where are their Asherah poles and sacrifices to Baal? Why do Palestinian women wear the hajib?

 

[Wilson23]

There is no cultural continuity between the ancient Canaanites and the modern Palestinians.

There is genetic continuity -- with the Canaanites and the Israelites. And it always seems the foundation of the Jewish claim to Palestine is genetic -- it's land they inherited.

 

[Chernosoth]

One of the constants in history is women being taken as spoils of war. The Middle East has plenty of war. We can assume a significant amount of genetic mixing there.

 

[Wilson23]

One of the constants in history is women being taken as spoils of war.

Well, a better word would be "booty."

 

[Wilson23]

Look, why is Israel still killing people in Gaza with a cease-fire on?!

 

[Celand]

LAZARAN : Some people mistakenly claimed he was Christian, while others clarified that he is indeed Muslim. This discussion highlighted broader issues of identity and morality in the context of tragedy.

.....exactly, so lets wait until he gets out of hospital and have him explain. The claim that he is an "Arab born Muslim"? Maybe so, but in Assad's forces he had to be secular.

 

[Rebel5soul]

.....exactly, so lets wait until he gets out of hospital and have him explain. The claim that he is an "Arab born Muslim"? Maybe so, but in Assad's forces he had to be secular.

Alawite even?

 

[Lazaran]

.....exactly, so lets wait until he gets out of hospital and have him explain. The claim that he is an "Arab born Muslim"? Maybe so, but in Assad's forces he had to be secular.

The AI search assist was definitive:

It declared that he was an Arab Muslim; full stop.

It also pointed out that "some people" had ERRONEOUSLY identified / labeled him as Christian for "some reason".

Deal. With. It.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

There is genetic continuity -- with the Canaanites and the Israelites. And it always seems the foundation of the Jewish claim to Palestine is genetic -- it's land they inherited.

The Jewish claim to Israel is not genetic. It’s because Jews have lived there continuously for thousands of years and maintained their distinctive culture through waves of foreign invaders. The Arab colonizers don’t get to claim they’re indigenous just because they’ve occupied the land for long enough and have a quantum of Canaanite blood. They live like Arabs, they act like Arabs, they raise their kids like Arabs.

It’s like white Europeans claiming they’re indigenous to America because their family has been here since 1600 and they have an “Indian princess” as a great-great-grandmother.

 

[Buffalogurl]

Humanity sits idly by while their fellows are wantonly, brutally starved and murdered by the minions of evil, i.e. Israel and U.S.A. with small assistance from Germany et.al. Why is there no response from a group of sane nations? Because they fear the malice evident in the behavior of the U.S.A. from its inception. Happy holidays ...

Here's something everyone in this thread might want to consider.........
The 7 Noahide laws of the Talmud that were "signed" into law during the Bush reign of terror......especially the first law of idolatry (the worship of false gods/idols).....and what the jews consider idolatry and the punishment for violating the Noahide laws......public law 101-267 and also public law 102-14.... all of this on the "books" in 1991....just say'in

 

[Chadrone]

Humanity sits idly by while their fellows are wantonly, brutally starved and murdered by the minions of evil, i.e. Israel and U.S.A. with small assistance from Germany et.al.

They can lay down their arms and come out whenever they want.....

Why is there no response from a group of sane nations?

There is, you just don't like it and stand on the side of Jihadi lunatics.

Because they fear the malice evident in the behavior of the U.S.A. from its inception. Happy holidays ...

Awww it's a USA hater, just like Jihadis and Democrats.

Merrry CHRISTMAS!!! Jesus is King.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
That's just being silly. In 1929, for example, long before the modern state of Israel was formed, over 60 Jews were massacred in Hebron by Moslems.

Showed foresight, didn't they?

See you and raise you this.

All you did was give a link to a Wikipedia entry about the 1948 war, without giving any quotes:

. . . The [UN] General Assembly resolution on Partition was greeted with overwhelming joy in Jewish communities and widespread outrage in the Arab world. In Palestine, violence erupted almost immediately, feeding into a spiral of reprisals and counter-reprisals. The British refrained from intervening as tensions boiled over into a low-level conflict that quickly escalated into a full-scale civil war.

From January onwards, operations became increasingly militarised, with the intervention of a number of Arab Liberation Army regiments inside Palestine, each active in a variety of distinct sectors around the different coastal towns. They consolidated their presence in Galilee and Samaria. Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni came from Egypt with several hundred men of the Army of the Holy War.
. . .
On 14 May 1948, David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the State of Israel and the 1948 Palestine war entered its second phase with the intervention of the Arab state armies and the beginning of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. . . .

Meanwhile, in British India, the Moslems were horrified at the thought of being a minority in a multicultural India, and so they demanded that the colony be partitioned so they could chop hands and heads off in a country which wouldn't have to worry about Mohandas Gandhi's enthusiasm for pacifism and human rights.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
The "intifada" is just another round of Muslim hatred of non-Moslems.

No, a round of Jewish hatred for gentiles.

I hold no brief for the Jews or the Zionists. I think religion is poison and we'd be much better off if Bronze Age mystics hadn't decided to try to explain the meaning of the universe with fables about nonexistent all-powerful beings (Elohim is plural, after all!)

But the "intifada" is just Arabic for "kristallnacht."

 

[Wilson23]

I hold no brief for the Jews or the Zionists. I think religion is poison

It's really a religious divide masking a national/ethnic divide, like the Prots and Papests in Ireland.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
I hold no brief for the Jews or the Zionists. I think religion is poison

It's really a religious divide masking a national/ethnic divide, like the Prots and Papests in Ireland.

The religious types always say that. If there's religious hatred inspiring killing they say, "Oh, but it wasn't the religion that did it, it was <fill in the blank>!"

It goes the other way, too. When some religious figure does something good, like Martin Luther King or Desmond Tutu, they strut about, saying how religion is so wonderful . . . but forget about the religious figures talking about the "Curse of Ham" to justify slavery or calling for jihad or killing in the former Yugoslavia or . . .

Well, to sum it up, "Deo vindice" was the motto of the Confederate States of America.

 

[Lazaran]

The religious types always say that. If there's religious hatred inspiring killing they say, "Oh, but it wasn't the religion that did it, it was <fill in the blank>!"

It goes the other way, too. When some religious figure does something good, like Martin Luther King or Desmond Tutu, they strut about, saying how religion is so wonderful . . . but forget about the religious figures talking about the "Curse of Ham" to justify slavery or calling for jihad or killing in the former Yugoslavia or . . .

Well, to sum it up, "Deo vindice" was the motto of the Confederate States of America.

Just like DonOld “the anti-Christ” Trump:

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Donald Trump has often expressed a sentiment where he takes credit for positive outcomes while deflecting blame for negative ones, suggesting that he believes he deserves recognition for successes but attributes failures to others. This reflects a common theme in his rhetoric regarding accountability and leadership.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Hel_Books]

Just like DonOld “the anti-Christ” Trump:

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Donald Trump has often expressed a sentiment where he takes credit for positive outcomes while deflecting blame for negative ones, suggesting that he believes he deserves recognition for successes but attributes failures to others. This reflects a common theme in his rhetoric regarding accountability and leadership.



We. Told. Them. So.

There haven't actually been any "positive outcomes" that Donald Trump can claim credit for, have there? (Oh, right, "securing the border" by keeping out all those "foreigner invaders" who work on American farms, construction sites, meatpacking plants, etc. etc. etc.)

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

It's really a religious divide masking a national/ethnic divide, like the Prots and Papests in Ireland.

It's a religious divide that only goes one way. It's the radical Muslims in Palestine trying to exterminate the secular state of Israel. The most radical Jews in Israel are the ones most opposed to the war.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's a religious divide that only goes one way. It's the radical Muslims in Palestine trying to exterminate the secular state of Israel. The most radical Jews in Israel are the ones most opposed to the war.

Itamar Ben-Gvir und his ultraright Otzma Yehudit brownshirts would like a word with you.

The most Islamophobic political party in Israel is the fringe-right Betar party, who publicly call for the extermination of Islam.

Neither of these group "oppose" war, to the contrary, they encourage perpetual warfare.

 

[Wilson23]

It's a religious divide that only goes one way. It's the radical Muslims in Palestine trying to exterminate the secular state of Israel. The most radical Jews in Israel are the ones most opposed to the war.

Arafat was no radical Muslim. He was a nationalist.

 

[Lazaran]

It's a religious divide that only goes one way. It's the radical Muslims in Palestine trying to exterminate the secular state of Israel. The most radical Jews in Israel are the ones most opposed to the war.

Ben-Gvir (etc) is opposed to the war???



I would agree that the “most misguided” Jews are opposed to fighting the war against radical Islamic terror that is being funded by Russia, China, Iran, etc, but “most radical”???