Lucifer_Carroll
GOATS!!!
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So republicans, how's that non-reality based worldview working for you people (I use the term loosely)?
You know what I mean, the one where if reality or science says something you don't like you disbelieve in it and its source for all eternity. The Iraq war is not a failure and hasn't collapsed into a genocidal civil war, it's spreading democracy. Women who used to go to schools are now wearing burqas and fearing rape gangs but that's only because they are going wild with their new expanded civil rights under the glories of western society. Tax cuts and privitization are good for the common people evidenced by the rapid decrease in cost per living and rapid surge in jobs every time those stragtegies have been employed. What countless studies and news articles saying that's not true? My word, the sciences and media is filled with traitors who hate america and capitalism.
And surprise of surprises, the dumbfounded steadfast love of ignorance that has so graced the utopian fantasies of the Randist cult keep plugging away at number one enemy global warming.
It has to be bad. Ann Coulter had a new segment calling it a new issue for pussies and tree-huggers, Al Gore and Hollywood had a field day with "An Inconvenient Truth" and we all know that they are both liberal and thus want America's businesses to fail and thus lead to mass starvation (an actual Ann Coulter worry in her latest column), and well-payed shills and phony research companies fronted by the oil companies say it is so. Ignore that none of their articles have been published in any scientific journal with a well-won standard for scientific integrity. Environmentalists are hippies and hippies are communists who helped Vietnam win against us making them Anti-American Stalin worshippers.
The whole "global warming" doesn't exist fad is long since dead. It's not just those liberal bastions of society, the great halls of actual legitimate scientific research, whose only real debate on global warming is "how bad is it going to be", "does nature have any counterdefenses against its effects", "what big fuckups of ours have exasperated the problem", "is the problem a matter of cycle arrythmia (we're supposed to be in a cycle of global cooling) or are we just boned", and famously last "when are we all going to die, is it too late to do anything about it or do we still have a grace period to get off our asses, and how many of us will be eliminated in the effects and what shape will those effects take?"
No, it's not just them. The pentagon (that hall of diseased liberal turncoats) has long since released their report stating: "we're fucked and it's all our fault, god damn humans". The president has already privately admitted that it's real but that since we don't know how big of a deal it is we should just ignore it until more studies are done. Obviously liberal bullshit.
So enough is enough, you dishonest science abusing quite possibly mass murdering extinction causing apologists for dying old men who want to take the world with them so they can continue to buy the sexual affection of supermodels. Shut the fuck up.
You don't get to cherry-pick science in order to try and lie it away. You want to talk about how methane from cows is more potent, you then have to talk about the massive deforestation of the rain forest for the overproduction of cattle ranches in order to fuel american tastes for fast-food burgers. You want to talk about how carbon emmissions are not as ozone damaging as other hydrocarbons? Then you have to admit as well the staggering amount of those byproducts we have created since the industrial revolution. You wish to talk about nature's cycle of healing itself and creating those same harmful byproducts, you have to talk about how we messed up that cycle by tipping hard on the production cycle and chopping down way more than our allotment of trees working on the deproduction cycle. You wish to talk about the cycle of global warming/global cooling, you have to talk about how most estimations of our cycle places us in a global cooling cycle. You wish to talk about how it's only a little change in temperature then you have to look above and also admit that small changes affect large amounts of polar ice cap and thus coastal levels. You wish to talk about economic impact, then you have to weigh it against the possibility of not having a working economy (see New Orleans, their high civilization based economy is doing amazing right now).
Every argument there is an obvious counter that only proves what they claim doesn't exist. Every credible scientist on the issue pretty much is in lockstep on whether or not it exists and only debate on whether or not we are royally fucked.
But republicans don't care. If they don't want it to be true, it isn't. Thus no sane argument works against them and despite having little to no real evidence backing up their arguments, despite the massive bulwark of evidence being on the opposite side, despite many bastions of their side quietly admitting that they are full of shit, the burden of proof is put on the liberals time and time again.
Prove you don't hate business you commie hater of america, here is a dialogue from stooges like me with little to no respect in the scientific community and generally equally as unimpressive scientific knowledge. Let me cherry-pick the facts and use my ignorance of basic scientific processes and mores as evidence that I'm right. Cause I want to be right, wah!!! I'm a Randist, we create our own reality and it has shiny ray guns.
Meanwhile in reality, scientists avoid absolutes in concluding paragraphs because science distrusts an immutable fact and is big on scrutiny and revisiting assumptions in an all-or-nothing constant pursuit of what's true. Overwhelming evidence is their euphemism for "i'd personally bet a large deal of money on it" and a debate between an oil company executive and a world-respected climatologist is not a 50/50 debate.
Why do we continue to humor these children? Constantly month after month refute what has long since ceased being a debate on reality? Why are we debating science with non-scientists? If I was debating on the Catholic Church scandals I would most certainly not want to see a debate between the Pope and Richard Dawkins (noted opponent of religion), same as the Pope has little to nothing to do with a serious debate on evolution. I'd want to see the Pope versus a catholic priest urging reform and christian values. I'd want to see Dawkins go up against Zombie Gould in an evolution debate.
Oil company versus scientist on global warming, Randist cultist misinterpreting science to try and disprove it (in the same vein as evolution is wrong because why are monkeys still here) versus the same damn article or work they try and remove from reality. One of these things is not equal to the other nor should be considered with equal weight.
Global warming deniers, republicans, you're wrong. It's time to take your blocks and go home and let the grownups have a real debate instead of interjecting with your immense ignorance on a battle you lost when the Pentagon and President Bush admitted mea culpa it exists. You may have doomed us already and your discredited bullshit is unwanted. Enough is enough.
We don't need to present annal after annal of the same damn studies, the same damn reports and a veritable cornucopia of global warming evidence. It's not our responsibility anymore to repeat ourselves to people who don't give a damn about reality, who believe science is a traitor institution and refuse to work at all to understand the patently obvious. We've done our job so now it's time to do yours for once. You're not on the offensive anymore, you're in a corner and you've lost. Stop the tantrum, it's time out so shut the fuck up.
You know what I mean, the one where if reality or science says something you don't like you disbelieve in it and its source for all eternity. The Iraq war is not a failure and hasn't collapsed into a genocidal civil war, it's spreading democracy. Women who used to go to schools are now wearing burqas and fearing rape gangs but that's only because they are going wild with their new expanded civil rights under the glories of western society. Tax cuts and privitization are good for the common people evidenced by the rapid decrease in cost per living and rapid surge in jobs every time those stragtegies have been employed. What countless studies and news articles saying that's not true? My word, the sciences and media is filled with traitors who hate america and capitalism.
And surprise of surprises, the dumbfounded steadfast love of ignorance that has so graced the utopian fantasies of the Randist cult keep plugging away at number one enemy global warming.
It has to be bad. Ann Coulter had a new segment calling it a new issue for pussies and tree-huggers, Al Gore and Hollywood had a field day with "An Inconvenient Truth" and we all know that they are both liberal and thus want America's businesses to fail and thus lead to mass starvation (an actual Ann Coulter worry in her latest column), and well-payed shills and phony research companies fronted by the oil companies say it is so. Ignore that none of their articles have been published in any scientific journal with a well-won standard for scientific integrity. Environmentalists are hippies and hippies are communists who helped Vietnam win against us making them Anti-American Stalin worshippers.
The whole "global warming" doesn't exist fad is long since dead. It's not just those liberal bastions of society, the great halls of actual legitimate scientific research, whose only real debate on global warming is "how bad is it going to be", "does nature have any counterdefenses against its effects", "what big fuckups of ours have exasperated the problem", "is the problem a matter of cycle arrythmia (we're supposed to be in a cycle of global cooling) or are we just boned", and famously last "when are we all going to die, is it too late to do anything about it or do we still have a grace period to get off our asses, and how many of us will be eliminated in the effects and what shape will those effects take?"
No, it's not just them. The pentagon (that hall of diseased liberal turncoats) has long since released their report stating: "we're fucked and it's all our fault, god damn humans". The president has already privately admitted that it's real but that since we don't know how big of a deal it is we should just ignore it until more studies are done. Obviously liberal bullshit.
So enough is enough, you dishonest science abusing quite possibly mass murdering extinction causing apologists for dying old men who want to take the world with them so they can continue to buy the sexual affection of supermodels. Shut the fuck up.
You don't get to cherry-pick science in order to try and lie it away. You want to talk about how methane from cows is more potent, you then have to talk about the massive deforestation of the rain forest for the overproduction of cattle ranches in order to fuel american tastes for fast-food burgers. You want to talk about how carbon emmissions are not as ozone damaging as other hydrocarbons? Then you have to admit as well the staggering amount of those byproducts we have created since the industrial revolution. You wish to talk about nature's cycle of healing itself and creating those same harmful byproducts, you have to talk about how we messed up that cycle by tipping hard on the production cycle and chopping down way more than our allotment of trees working on the deproduction cycle. You wish to talk about the cycle of global warming/global cooling, you have to talk about how most estimations of our cycle places us in a global cooling cycle. You wish to talk about how it's only a little change in temperature then you have to look above and also admit that small changes affect large amounts of polar ice cap and thus coastal levels. You wish to talk about economic impact, then you have to weigh it against the possibility of not having a working economy (see New Orleans, their high civilization based economy is doing amazing right now).
Every argument there is an obvious counter that only proves what they claim doesn't exist. Every credible scientist on the issue pretty much is in lockstep on whether or not it exists and only debate on whether or not we are royally fucked.
But republicans don't care. If they don't want it to be true, it isn't. Thus no sane argument works against them and despite having little to no real evidence backing up their arguments, despite the massive bulwark of evidence being on the opposite side, despite many bastions of their side quietly admitting that they are full of shit, the burden of proof is put on the liberals time and time again.
Prove you don't hate business you commie hater of america, here is a dialogue from stooges like me with little to no respect in the scientific community and generally equally as unimpressive scientific knowledge. Let me cherry-pick the facts and use my ignorance of basic scientific processes and mores as evidence that I'm right. Cause I want to be right, wah!!! I'm a Randist, we create our own reality and it has shiny ray guns.
Meanwhile in reality, scientists avoid absolutes in concluding paragraphs because science distrusts an immutable fact and is big on scrutiny and revisiting assumptions in an all-or-nothing constant pursuit of what's true. Overwhelming evidence is their euphemism for "i'd personally bet a large deal of money on it" and a debate between an oil company executive and a world-respected climatologist is not a 50/50 debate.
Why do we continue to humor these children? Constantly month after month refute what has long since ceased being a debate on reality? Why are we debating science with non-scientists? If I was debating on the Catholic Church scandals I would most certainly not want to see a debate between the Pope and Richard Dawkins (noted opponent of religion), same as the Pope has little to nothing to do with a serious debate on evolution. I'd want to see the Pope versus a catholic priest urging reform and christian values. I'd want to see Dawkins go up against Zombie Gould in an evolution debate.
Oil company versus scientist on global warming, Randist cultist misinterpreting science to try and disprove it (in the same vein as evolution is wrong because why are monkeys still here) versus the same damn article or work they try and remove from reality. One of these things is not equal to the other nor should be considered with equal weight.
Global warming deniers, republicans, you're wrong. It's time to take your blocks and go home and let the grownups have a real debate instead of interjecting with your immense ignorance on a battle you lost when the Pentagon and President Bush admitted mea culpa it exists. You may have doomed us already and your discredited bullshit is unwanted. Enough is enough.
We don't need to present annal after annal of the same damn studies, the same damn reports and a veritable cornucopia of global warming evidence. It's not our responsibility anymore to repeat ourselves to people who don't give a damn about reality, who believe science is a traitor institution and refuse to work at all to understand the patently obvious. We've done our job so now it's time to do yours for once. You're not on the offensive anymore, you're in a corner and you've lost. Stop the tantrum, it's time out so shut the fuck up.
