Getting Along

[Nathan_Brazil]

My guess is, at this point, the only reason the mod has allowed the thread to survive is as a museum to show the infighting. Maybe that's useful.

I don't see any hope of reconciliation, forgiveness, agreements on what amounts to fair play, or any other consensus forming other than "Don't respond to the hate." Other tools aren't available because the site software doesn't have them. "Don't respond to hate" isn't bad advice, but personally I was hoping for a little more "let's settle it and forget it" agreement between the warring parties. But when apologies don't work, nothing else is likely to.

If by chance the mod is keeping the thread open simply because I'd originally asked to let it run until it produced good... yeah, I'm withdrawing that request. It's gone nowhere.

Its tough to find an answer to outright hatred.

When you have parties that absolutely refuse to reconcile, it goes nowhere.

Sadly.

 

[sr71plt]

Its tough to find an answer to outright hatred.

When you have parties that absolutely refuse to reconcile, it goes nowhere.

Sadly.

And becomes a playground for the "butter wouldn't melt in my mouth" crowd.

You do want to just spin this out, don't you?

 

[HandsInTheDark]

Au contraire. I think you've had fun with it and that was the purpose you had in initiating it.

I'm happy if it stays up too--yet another opportunity for the causal forum reader to "get" Freddie's game.

Nope. I really did want to see if something could be arranged to have fewer threads closed, and as a subgoal I was wondering if there was any way to muzzle people who chase others around in other forums to harass them. But nothing is going to change if this thread is an accurate reflection of the major players.

If I was into the fun of watching people continue to spit poison, I'm sure I could keep the thread going for days. But I'm not. And people will continue to spit poison whether this thread is here or not. Someone else can try tilting at windmills.

 

[sr71plt]

As you well know, I work in the Satire arena. Broad parodies of board personalities are funny.

Angry yelling and taunting... Not so much.

Id love to see Susan develop that idea into an entire story. Look at what Noir writes... Geez.

The story arena is where authors SHOULD fight.

Another phrase for such satires on board personalities would be sleazy, instigating, self-righteousness.

I don't why you'd think this was a good thing.

 

[sr71plt]

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If I was into the fun of watching people continue to spit poison, I'm sure I could keep the thread going for days.

Quite possibly why you are ARE helping the thread go on for days.

I don't know who some of you folks think you're fooling.

 

[lovecraft68]

I don't know who some of you folks think you're fooling.

Not many, it seems. The two people pushing 'peace' have both been instigating big time.

 

[TxRad]

SJP, Now you know how Selena Kitt felt. Not fun is it?

 

[lovecraft68]

SJP, Now you know how Selena Kitt felt. Not fun is it?

Actually they don't, nor will they ever and that's a shame.

 

[sr71plt]

Actually they don't, nor will they ever and that's a shame.

I agree. One just involves Internet games. The other involved vulnerability and death--and total, insidious, playing with that. Big difference, I believe.

That's why this issue will never change with me--no matter who shows up later without a historical perspective but with a lot of Pollyanish pat phrases.

 

[Nathan_Brazil]

So...

Basically the three of you are saying that you will NEVER let this go? And that you will continue following Susan around forever? Correct?

 

[sr71plt]

Basically the three of you are saying that you will NEVER let this go? And that you will continue following Susan around forever? Correct?

No, I'll follow Freddie around whenever he is being outrageous/insidious (there are a lot of Freddie threads here that I either don't comment on at all or just comment to the content of the thread). You completely miss the point. And that you continue to post on this proves your motivations.

Aren't you the same guy who wanted us to help you write parodies on the GB folks? I would have thought that the reaction you got on that would have taught you something.

 

[sr71plt]

TxRad’s challenge to you is both legitimate and reasonable, “Susan.”

Posting a photo of your avatar image holding a legible Christmas Day newspaper from the town of your choice dated 25 December 2015 gives you every advantage and no disadvantage. All of this doubt evaporates (but probably not reaction to your posts exhibiting despicable forum behavior no matter your true gender—you don’t dispute that all of those previous account names are yours. You list them yourself from time to time).

Is that avatar really a photo of you? If not, you lose from the get go in credibility. You have given up expectation of privacy on the photo. You post that avatar a couple of times a day. You can’t be shy about it being your photo, unless it isn’t and you’ve stolen it from somewhere. So, absolutely no impediment to posting with a dated legible dated document.

You did, with several previous account names that you do acknowledge as yours, post a photo of a male as an avatar. Which is really you? Which is the lie? Claiming a sex change? (That wouldn’t be any wilder than other claims you’ve made on the forum.)

It’s functionally the same as JBJ claiming he has a Green E under another account name. There’s every advantage and absolutely no disadvantages of backing that claim up by posting an “I am JBJ” message on the board in the Green E account name—if the claim is true. Then just abandon that account name and go to another one if he’s afraid of backlash. The Green E won’t disappear. And he can’t have much invested in his stories—he changed main account names and abandoned some fifty posted stories.

In both cases, all of the advantage is in providing easy proof and there is no disadvantage in doing so. That it isn’t done speaks volumes about the claim, and anyone who understands Internet gaming and has an ounce of common sense can discern the lie.

This is entirely in your control “Susan.” It always has been. No one goes after you when you aren’t being outrageous/insidious in your postings. The point is, that you do go there, and no matter what your gender claim, your posts are always recognizable—and they are in the voice of a male.

 

[Arngrim]

In order for a war to end, all sides need to come to some sort of agreement, understanding, or truce. I don't see that happening here. Far too many would have to admit fault, compromise, and change how they interact with others here.

In a virtual space where there are no consequences for one's actions, "getting along" is a pipe dream.

However, I think the Author's Hangout could at the very least be a bit more enjoyable if everyone followed a few simple guidelines:

- Stay on topic. Don't thread-jack or make a topic all about yourself, even if you created it.

- Don't insult, belittle, or be condescending towards another poster or to genres, fantasies, and fetishes you personally dislike. (Thanks Carnal_Flower!)

- Likewise, don't be obtuse and assume everything that is said to you is a personal attack.

- Don't publicly accuse others of cheating, rigging, or gaming the contests. If something looks suspicious to you, report it to the admins.

- Don't try to police the board. It's an exercise in futility.

- Stop judging authors based on what they write.

- Don't instigate, intimidate, or otherwise cause a disruption for the sake of causing a disruption. A.k.a. don't feed the trolls or stir the pot.

- If you absolutely cannot stand someone, put them on ignore. You'll be doing yourself, as well as everyone else, a favor.

- Most importantly, treat everyone with respect.

These are all reasonable guidelines that anyone is capable of following. Unless, you thrive on chaos, that is.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

In order for a war to end, all sides need to come to some sort of agreement, understanding, or truce. I don't see that happening here. Far too many would have to admit fault, compromise, and change how they interact with others here.

In a virtual space where there are no consequences for one's actions, "getting along" is a pipe dream.

However, I think the Author's Hangout could at the very least be a bit more enjoyable if everyone followed a few simple guidelines:

- Stay on topic. Don't thread-jack or make a topic all about yourself, even if you created it.

- Don't insult, belittle, or be condescending towards another poster. *

- Likewise, don't be obtuse and assume everything that is said to you is a personal attack.

- Don't publicly accuse others of cheating, rigging, or gaming the contests. If something looks suspicious to you, report it to the admins.

- Don't try to police the board. It's an exercise in futility.

- Stop judging authors based on what they write.

- Don't instigate, intimidate, or otherwise cause a disruption for the sake of causing a disruption. A.k.a. don't feed the trolls or stir the pot.

- If you absolutely cannot stand someone, put them on ignore. You'll be doing yourself, as well as everyone else, a favor.

- Most importantly, treat everyone with respect.

These are all reasonable guidelines that anyone is capable of following. Unless, you thrive on chaos, that is.

*Or to genres, fantasies, and fetishes you personally dislike.

 

[Arngrim]

*Or to genres, fantasies, and fetishes you personally dislike.

Valid point. I'll make an edit.

 

[sr71plt]

In order for a war to end, all sides need to come to some sort of agreement, understanding, or truce. I don't see that happening here. Far too many would have to admit fault, compromise, and change how they interact with others here.

Sure it can, in the Freddie case. All he needs to do is stop the outrageous/insidious line of posting he's done for years. It is now and has always been under his control. He just hasn't been able to control himself.

Beyond that, your post is nice and amusing pie in the sky. There are others who are so highly competitive (which is amusing on a free-use, open-membership sex story site) that they can't help themselves from attacking. And, if the pie in the sky program is instituted and accepted by all, two thirds of those left will leave out of boredom, I'm sure. But it would certainly be a phenomenon worth watching. Two thumbs up and a grinny smile.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

...your post is nice and amusing pie in the sky. There are others who are so highly competitive (which is amusing on a free-use, open-membership sex story site) that they can't help themselves from attacking. And, if the pie in the sky program is instituted and accepted by all, two thirds of those left will leave out of boredom, I'm sure. But it would certainly be a phenomenon worth watching. Two thumbs up and a grinny smile.

It would mean being a little nicer, but I'd sign up for Arngrim's list. It's basic netiquette and I've been part of a writer group (years ago) that operated that way. (Netiquette used to be a thing taken more seriously; somehow it didn't transfer well to the web. I'm still in mourning over the September That Never Ended and I wish there was a way to get the glory days back.) As for some people leaving because things are too nice... um... is this a trick statement? Is there a downside?

But for it to work, at least at first, the mod would have to delete posts that violate that list, and that's far in excess of what the mod does now. Sure that makes for draconian moderation and lots of us would get our wrists slapped until the rules sank in, but hey. Mod?

 

[sr71plt]

If it moves that way, I'll be going with it (I note that the example thread the Mod posted here doesn't have a post by me--even though I was specifically provoked early in the thread). I'm not Marvin Milquetoast, though, and I have no intention of being a Marvin Milquetoast here.

 

[LadyVer]

I have no words of wisdom, probably because at this time of day I feel like I've been shot out of a cannon. My brain and body are shot to hell.

Maybe the issue of the AH is that some people have too much free time, or they aren't working hard enough. Anyway, basically, internet forums are a minefield, regardless of forum. I guess if I can respond civilly to a male who referred to me as a cow as well as questioning my sexuality (although this was a process because my initial response was to shoot the bastard), and a few others who said similar things, there must be some hope for the AH.

Wishing everyone a great holiday, a good stiff drink, and some reconciliation.

PS Shorter posts would be good as well.

 

[sr71plt]

Not just a cow. I think it must have been a silly cow.

 

[LadyVer]

Not just a cow. I think it must have been a silly cow.

You're on a short leash, dear.

 

[sr71plt]

You're on a short leash, dear.

Don't count on it, snookems.

I can always count on you to go on and on and on. Shall we play the "you always have to post last game"? You always lose that one.

 

[LadyVer]

Don't count on it, snookems.

I can always count on you to go on and on and on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14FvkH39RGI

 

[TxRad]

Ah, a late entry shit stirrer has arrived.

 

[colddiesel]

In order for a war to end, all sides need to come to some sort of agreement, understanding, or truce.

.

No. the only way this so called war can end is in complete victory - for Laurel. The AH mod's activities just seem to wind the disputants up even more.

If Laurel could summon up the intestinal fortitude and just toss out permanently no more than a handful of people, there would be no problem going forward.

That result would be in comparative terms a little unfair to some of those disposed of but it would work for two reasons; first it would show those remaining that Laurel isn't a wimp and second 90% of the problems would be gone.

One or two of the targets have a lot of stories on lit. So what, none of them has more than 0.1% of the total. They would not be missed - but they might miss the free advertising vicariously given to their paid work.

So surprise us Laurel, take out the trash.