Gallup: 71% of Democrats Say Government Should Redistribute Wealth

[Karen Kraft]

I think the question is not whether the state should levy and collect taxes and use some of the money thus obtained to provide a safety net for the indigent.

The question is whether the top and bottom economic brackets need to be brought toward the middle by the state. If so, it is unfair until such time and the two meet in the middle?

That is the question.

 

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[Liar]

I think the question is not whether the state should levy and collect taxes and use some of the money thus obtained to provide a safety net for the indigent.

The question is whether the top and bottom economic brackets need to be brought toward the middle by the state.

Doen't a inevitably lead to b, since a is a contributor and b a benefactor of said safety net?

If so, it is unfair until such time and the two meet in the middle?

That is the question.

No, that's not the question. Only in so many red herrings. Toward the middle is not to the middle. Nobody argues for that. Short of an actual communist.

 

[mercury14]

I think the question is not whether the state should levy and collect taxes and use some of the money thus obtained to provide a safety net for the indigent.

According to the thread title the question is whether the state should collect taxes and spend some of the money to provide a safety net to the indigent.

The question is whether the top and bottom economic brackets need to be brought toward the middle by the state. If so, it is unfair until such time and the two meet in the middle?

What? The rich-poor gap in America is growing faster than any industrialized nation. The one thing you do NOT need to worry about is rich and poor being forced into the middle together. The middle class is shrinking.

 

[onemadvagabond]

The rich in this country used to be considered someone who earned a million or more a year. Now the powers that be in Washington that want to redistribute, put it at 200,000 for individuals, and 250,000 for couples.

My question to all of you redistribution of wealth lovers is this.

Where do you think it's going to stop? Do you really believe that those of you making only 150,000 are safe? How about 100,000? Is 75,000 enough to take it away and redistribute? I mean fuck, you have so much more than someone who only makes 25,000. How about 50,000? That's five times as much as someone that only makes 10,000. You should understand that socialism doesn't stop at a given number. It only stops when the elite's are rich and everyone else is eating cabbage soup. I guess at that point most of us are equal though huh. Morons.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's funny we're debating redistribution of wealth when 100% of human beings agree with redistribution of wealth. That's the whole point of being a social animal whether your lions, meerkats, antelope or humans.

The only questions are how much, how and why.

 

[mercury14]

No one's going to starve in America. Don't worry.

Americans died of starvation and exposure to the elements before the institution of welfare.

 

[koalabear]

Americans died of starvation and exposure to the elements before the institution of welfare.

Prove it.

 

[badbabysitter]

Prove it.

okay

http://english.prav******/world/americas/19-05-2008/105255-famine-0/

 

[badbabysitter]

argghhh..summabich

okay, here goes

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/learning_history/children_depression/depression_children_menu.cfm

 

[mercury14]

The rich in this country used to be considered someone who earned a million or more a year. Now the powers that be in Washington that want to redistribute, put it at 200,000 for individuals, and 250,000 for couples.

My question to all of you redistribution of wealth lovers is this.

Where do you think it's going to stop? Do you really believe that those of you making only 150,000 are safe? How about 100,000? Is 75,000 enough to take it away and redistribute? I mean fuck, you have so much more than someone who only makes 25,000. How about 50,000? That's five times as much as someone that only makes 10,000. You should understand that socialism doesn't stop at a given number. It only stops when the elite's are rich and everyone else is eating cabbage soup. I guess at that point most of us are equal though huh. Morons.

What are you even talking about? The extra Medicare tax that kicks in at 200k/250k? That's going to change nobody's life style. It's not going to keep the rich from being rich.

 

[JenAltArmy]

What are you even talking about? The extra Medicare tax that kicks in at 200k/250k? That's going to change nobody's life style. It's not going to keep the rich from being rich.

why is it that you want others to pay?

just admit it!

oh look another "government" fuc&wad in trouble. this is why government is the problem "Weiner"gate is awesome! next, he will go to sex rehab

"I lied, but you can trust me now!"

Jesus the Dem's suck, and no happy ending

 

[JenAltArmy]

Americans died of starvation and exposure to the elements before the institution of welfare.

and so what, now we must expand "welfare"

why stop at free health care
why not hand out free money?

why not give people a free car from GM
a free education, but hell, lets not expect them to work

you socialist nut jobbers suck, and need to get a job

get off your lazy ass, and start a business. you will change your tune
(except you want to leach off the tax payer, oh sorry government pay check)

 

[JenAltArmy]

Doen't a inevitably lead to b, since a is a contributor and b a benefactor of said safety net?

No, that's not the question. Only in so many red herrings. Toward the middle is not to the middle. Nobody argues for that. Short of an actual communist.

we have safety nets, people just want more! they want more of OTHER PEOPLE'S money

in your country, you don't have generations raised by milking/living off the system.

 

[mercury14]

why is it that you want others to pay?

just admit it!

oh look another "government" fuc&wad in trouble. this is why government is the problem "Weiner"gate is awesome! next, he will go to sex rehab

"I lied, but you can trust me now!"

Jesus the Dem's suck, and no happy ending

My wife and I combine for over 250k and will be paying.

 

[polyamorous]

if you can get past all my bullets you are more than welcome to re-distribute my wealth.

until then shaniqua and jamal can keep hustling marijuana and living off welfare and I'll continue going to work and paying my taxes.

 

[mercury14]

if you can get past all my bullets you are more than welcome to re-distribute my wealth.

until then shaniqua and jamal can keep hustling marijuana and living off welfare and I'll continue going to work and paying my taxes.

You know, if you're paying taxes then..... ugh nevermind.

 

[JenAltArmy]

My wife and I combine for over 250k and will be paying.

okay sure. so why don't you send an extra 400k in to uncle obama?

giving obama more money is like giving a crack addick, more drugs

some day you will see that.

but then again, you support Weiner, the man who lies

 

[polyamorous]

You know, if you're paying taxes then..... ugh nevermind.

yes, I get it, my taxes fund the lifestyle of those who choose not to work. but they also pay for the police who keep them out of my neighborhood.

its a catch 22.

 

[mercury14]

okay sure. so why don't you send an extra 400k in to uncle obama?

giving obama more money is like giving a crack addick, more drugs

some day you will see that.

but then again, you support Weiner, the man who lies

I'm cool paying the extra Medicare tax to fund health care reform. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.

 

[mercury14]

yes, I get it, my taxes fund the lifestyle of those who choose not to work. but they also pay for the police who keep them out of my neighborhood.

its a catch 22.

Correct.

You're leaving out the vast majority of welfare recipients though. People that actually need it. The Elderly, the disabled, people who got some shit luck when their town's factory closed and need a way to feed their family until they land a new job, children born into poverty, single moms whose bread-winning husbands left the family, single moms who took the kids and left because of abuse, the mentally ill, etc.

How come you don't mention them?

 

[polyamorous]

Correct.

You're leaving out the vast majority of welfare recipients though. People that actually need it. The Elderly, the disabled, people who got some shit luck when their town's factory closed and need a way to feed their family until they land a new job, children born into poverty, single moms whose bread-winning husbands left the family, single moms who took the kids and left because of abuse, the mentally ill, etc.

How come you don't mention them?

because the list of bleeding hearts you just typed up isnt actually the vast majority of welfare recipients.

good try though, i appreciate your stepping up to the plate.

 

[JenAltArmy]

You know, if you're paying taxes then..... ugh nevermind.

why do you support taking money from person X and handing it over to person y?

 

[JenAltArmy]

It's funny we're debating redistribution of wealth when 100% of human beings agree with redistribution of wealth. That's the whole point of being a social animal whether your lions, meerkats, antelope or humans.

The only questions are how much, how and why.

only you suppot a dumb ass idea of redistrubtion of other people's money

 

[JenAltArmy]

okay

http://english.prav******/world/americas/19-05-2008/105255-famine-0/

so what, because people starved 100 years ago, what does that have to do with today?

in today's world obama's government hands out billions. so what, you want to make it easier for those to collect welfare cuz they are too lazy to do a little work for free hand outs?