Futuristic Porn Stories....

[SEVERUSMAX]

I also have a darker series about the world after an EMP burst caused by a team of European anarchists, led by a Russian named Valentin Kazarov. Major governments collapse, along with the global economy and much of the Internet.

The USA is divided into warring factions, independent states, separatist Native tribes, and city-states.

 

[NoJo]

I also have a darker series about the world after an EMP burst caused by a team of European anarchists, led by a Russian named Valentin Kazarov. Major governments collapse, along with the global economy and much of the Internet.

The USA is divided into warring factions, independent states, separatist Native tribes, and city-states.

Personally, I like to escape into fantasy worlds where everything is hunky dory, and the women all look like Lt Uhuru.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

What about Dr. Beverly Crusher?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

There is a story set in the Republic of Nevada, one of the breakaway states of the Union. It involves indentured servitude. There is another about a pothead released from prison under a new local regime that has legalized marijuana.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

There is one story, however, that I can't post here, due to the age (16) of one of the participants.

 

[NoJo]

There is one story, however, that I can't post here, due to the age (16) of one of the participants.

Earth-years?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Yep. The story has to do with a new regime's law that teens be forbidden to leave its territory.

 

[NoJo]

What about Dr. Beverly Crusher?

Has to be Uhuru. I did my doctoral thesis on her, and I proved using algebra that she was the hottest ever female member of the Enterprise.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

A mom gets in serious trouble for trying to smuggle her teen daughter into a "Christian" enclave. The new regime shares my dislike of traditional religion, though it doesn't persecute it.

 

[gauchecritic]

If you have only 12 sovereign nations (assuming they're not mere colonised countries) then they have been nations for a very long time. If they have been nations for a very long time then the governments/ruling classes are static, hedonistic and decadent.

Homosexual sex is amongst the first of the 'deviations' that a hedonistic society will fall towards.

If you include the theory that homosexual flirting is a v.powerful tool (double entendre there just for joe) in any system of hierarchy then you really must include it if your story is in any way political. At this stage of affairs it should be societally acceptable too.

One character out of a cast of billions is not going to be representative.

It is also scientific fact that beings from other worlds are invariably both evil and bent. (schuster and shchuster "How gay is my alien?" published by macmillan 2004. price $24.99)

 

[CharleyH]

...the Anglo-Canadian Empire (a merger of UK and Canada),

In this instance, since we got our constitution back in 1984? And since the Bloc (French seperatists) are a major opposition since the bulk of Canada's population resides in 2 provinces: Ontario and Quebec .... I would imagine a civil war in this nation if we allowed UK to merge back.

lol - seriously.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

The key to any futuristic story is that you be consistant. Anything goes, provided you can give it a plausible reason for being there and you remain true to that reasoning. i write some sci fi, in it, faster than light travel is possible. I don't describe the mechanism for it, in fact, I treat it in a fairly blaze' manner. the trick there is, my characters do the same. it works because really, if you think about it, your average person can't tell you how a gas combustion engine works, but they trust that their car will start in the morning nonetheless.

Sex between human and alien species is the norm in the erotic sci fi cat here. Provided you are using an invented alien race and you give them enough features to distinguish them from commonplace animals, the beastiality prohibition isn't a factor.

In your hypothetical, with only 12 soverign nations, you need to have a very good idea of what geographical area each nation encomapses. The majority of your conflicts should occur between nations that share a common border, as border disputes will be the most common reason/excuse for brush fire wars. Nations that do not share a common border may still be enimical to one another, but at that point you need a more nebulous reason, such as trade consessions or ideological incompatibility. As you build these conflicts, your work will become ever more mired in having to corss check yourself to remain consistant. It has a stong inclination to become more political treastise than entertainment.

My adivce is to keep it light. the background information that is vital should be discerned, and provided, while the information that is extraneous should be culled, and only that which advacnes plot or chasracter should be included. All should be weighed against the question of relevance to the plot, relevance to the characters and neccissity or the reader knowing to make somthing important clear.

 

[NoJo]

My adivce is to keep it light. the background information that is vital should be discerned, and provided, while the information that is extraneous should be culled, and only that which advacnes plot or chasracter should be included. All should be weighed against the question of relevance to the plot, relevance to the characters and neccissity or the reader knowing to make somthing important clear.

That's excellent advice, which a lot of writers (including me) need to have up on the wall.

Christopher Guest describes how he made the spoof documentary movie "A Mighty Wind". He and his co-writer had created an incredibly detailed back-story for each of the characters -- where they went to school, etc. Even though almost none of the back-story appeared in the movie, it was still a key process in creating the story, enabling the writers to write true-to-life scenes, and helping the actors to provide depth to their characters.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

That's excellent advice, which a lot of writers (including me) need to have up on the wall.

Christopher Guest describes how he made the spoof documentary movie "A Mighty Wind". He and his co-writer had created an incredibly detailed back-story for each of the characters -- where they went to school, etc. Even though almost none of the back-story appeared in the movie, it was still a key process in creating the story, enabling the writers to write true-to-life scenes, and helping the actors to provide depth to their characters.

When I work with Sci fi, I tend to devote a lot of thought to the character's background. I may actually include a tenth or less of the information in the actual story, but I do know their back stories and it does aid immensly in having them act in a consistant and relatively true to life fashion.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

If you have only 12 sovereign nations (assuming they're not mere colonised countries) then they have been nations for a very long time. If they have been nations for a very long time then the governments/ruling classes are static, hedonistic and decadent.

Homosexual sex is amongst the first of the 'deviations' that a hedonistic society will fall towards.

If you include the theory that homosexual flirting is a v.powerful tool (double entendre there just for joe) in any system of hierarchy then you really must include it if your story is in any way political. At this stage of affairs it should be societally acceptable too.

One character out of a cast of billions is not going to be representative.

It is also scientific fact that beings from other worlds are invariably both evil and bent. (schuster and shchuster "How gay is my alien?" published by macmillan 2004. price $24.99)

Aside from the stereotype of "evil" aliens, my main objection to this notion is that "hedonism" doesn't mean decadence. The Early Roman Empire was hedonistic under such Emperors as Claudius, but it was wasn't weak or decaying. It didn't start decaying until after a more puritanical regime led by that notorious hypocrite Hadrian (banned mixed bathing, but had male lovers). The accompaning decline of population from less sexual activity and the plague that came later deprived Rome of her native manpower and led her into the habit of hiring Gallic and German mercenaries.

Also, the existence of other homosexuals is implied by mention of Eupas's sexual activity (after all, with whom else would he have sex). He is simply the sole prominent male homosexual (and he is vital to the plot, though I won't say why yet). There will be at least one prominent lesbian, too, but not until later in the story.

As for the objections about the Anglo-Canadian Empire, I have very good reasons for this, including British rejection of the EU and Canadian fears of assimilation by the USA. Canada has the land and resources; the UK has the population and nuclear deterrent.

I like Colleen Thomas's ideas, and they make sense. Bear in mind, that at this point, Red China is a superpower seeking global hegemony even more than today.
Taiwan has been absorbed by the Pacific Community out of fear, while new federations like South Asia, West Asia, and Eurasia are particularly concerned. The West Asians, while not sharing a common border, fear Chinese support to hard-line elements that might seek to overthrow the government in favor of militant Islam. There is also the Chinese nuclear threat, held partially in check by South Asia's nuclear arsenal (the same deterrent that saved Taiwan).

The USA is connected to this through her allies, but not so directly menaced. She is even larger than today, having annexed Mexico, Central America, and much of the Caribbean. It has also moved a bit leftward in its politics, though not radically (no gun ban, or anything silly like that, which would cause a revolution). Most states have universal health coverage, though not all. Social Security and Medicare have been saved and Amtrak has finallly been privatized (as a luxury train service) to pay for the extra cost. NASA works partially through private contractors, though not in military aspects. The death penalty is largely a thing of the past, having been scrapped by most states as too expensive and risky.

Those are just some trends, to which I plan to (occasionally) at various points in the story.

Mostly, however, Earth will be peripheral to the story. The main action involves the 4 alien civilizations. My main concern about the Macurean-human sex thing was due to the bird-like traits of the aliens in question. Hopefully, it will be considered alien-human, not bestiality. The focus is, of course, on the planet where the Ambassador is assigned. The society in which he is residing is only POLITICALLY and ECONOMICALLY repressed, not sexually. (They do, however, have harsh penalties for things like deadbeat dads- i.e. public flogging).

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I DO have one of these stories already posted, at least. Well, 2 chapters of it, anyway.

 

[Guest]

Aside from the stereotype of "evil" aliens, my main objection to this notion is that "hedonism" doesn't mean decadence.

To quibble: Hedonism is "the doctrine or theory of ethics in which pleasure is regarded as the chief good, or the proper end of action" (OED). Decadence is only a few steps behind; one is a philosophy (ancient, Cyrenean), the other a state of being. Hedonism as a vice (vs. philosophy) exists in any civilization and needs must lead to decadence to some degree. If you have a hedonistic world its story's timeframe cannot be very long before falling into decadence. Or if it doesn't, then it's a soap opera (or boring).

Perdita

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I just reject the notion that hedonism is a pitfall for an empire.

 

[NoJo]

I just reject the notion that hedonism is a pitfall for an empire.

I reject it too.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

To quibble: Hedonism is "the doctrine or theory of ethics in which pleasure is regarded as the chief good, or the proper end of action" (OED). Decadence is only a few steps behind; one is a philosophy (ancient, Cyrenean), the other a state of being. Hedonism as a vice (vs. philosophy) exists in any civilization and needs must lead to decadence to some degree. If you have a hedonistic world its story's timeframe cannot be very long before falling into decadence. Or if it doesn't, then it's a soap opera (or boring).

Perdita

thanks Dita. i haven't seen that point addressed so coherently before

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I like poking holes in the "Decadence Dooms Civilizations" theory.

 

[gauchecritic]

I like poking holes in the "Decadence Dooms Civilizations" theory.

more historical truth than theory.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Believe that if you wish, my good fellow. It DOES make me wonder what you're doing on a site like this one.

 

[gauchecritic]

Believe that if you wish, my good fellow. It DOES make me wonder what you're doing on a site like this one.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Just a question, my good fellow.