Fucking worthless doctors

[incubus'_sub]

you know, i've read your rants for years now. almost everything you write is some kind of complaint about the stupidity of others. it goes on and on and on.

despite this, you seem to have a loyal following so i'll let them all say oh no, poor you etc etc etc.

you've trashed your body for years, behaved in an uncontrolled manner many, many times by your own admission. it's time to fess up to your own behaviour which is the root cause of so many of your problems. time to deal with the stupid, yes stupid, results of your inability to control your own anger.

all doctors are not stupid but a hell of a lot of patients are. they're chasing you around trying to get you in for more tests that they deem urgent. so what do you do, cancel everything, how very clever. if they didn't you'd be on here whingeing that you pay insurance but the stupid doctors couldn't be bothered finding out what is wrong with you. they can't win but you'll act righteous and angry no matter what.

get over yourself, have the tests. try to look after yourself a bit better. you keep coming up with plans to do so but then come back and bleat about how or why you couldn't follow through. usually someone else's fault of course.

good luck and i hope the results are truly just a treatable infection.

 

[Betticus]

I am getting off work a bit early so I can check into the hospital at 7am on Thursday morning and they are repeating the biopsy at 9am. With the doctor that was supposed to do it the first time.

I did more research taking into account what my doctors have said and while on the very outside it could just be an infection, I have some specific symptoms that point straight to having Hodgkins Lymphoma in a somewhat advanced stage. I'll know in about a week one way or the other.

Perhaps I should not vent so much and share some of the good things that I have going on.

 

[incubus'_sub]

i'm so glad you're having your test and i hope it is just an infection.

try not to worry too much. good luck.

 

[Betticus]

i'm so glad you're having your test and i hope it is just an infection.

try not to worry too much. good luck.

The swollen lymph node on my left collarbone seems (to me at least) to be getting smaller which should be indicative of an infection beginning to clear up but it's been there, golf ball sized for two months and then the other one on the inside of the chest cavity also. That with the weight loss, fatigue, itchy skin, anemia.. those are all in combination symptoms of lymphoma so they can't make a determination until the biopsy is done.

 

[Betticus]

So I went in for the biopsy this morning and was in admitting when they told me that my part would be 867 dollars. I'm still paying off last years medical bills and keeping up (barely) with living expenses, etc..

So, I couldn't afford to get the biopsy repeated and I will instead just go with my first instinct which is this isn't cancer, it's just an infection.

 

[FurryFury]

*HUGS*

That's scary that you didn't do it because you couldn't afford it.

That being said, I suspect your best instinct is closer to being on target. I sure hope so.

 

[cfuhrer]

You might see if the hospital has a charity care program. When I was in the hospital last year I didn't think I would qualify for the charity care discount but I did and my obligation to the hospital was cut in half. And since you've been unable to work it should be a slam dunk.

I know its hard to decide to go that route and its easy to think "I don't *need* charity" but finding out they think you need charity sure lifts a load from the shoulders. Plus, the government gives them money to run programs like that so its not like its comming out of their pocket; in a way your tax dollars pay for it in the first place.

 

[incubus'_sub]

australians can't believe your hopeless medical situation where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. is that the situation that obama is trying to fix with his health bill?

we have medicare which covers everyone in a public hospital for free. it's certainly not perfect and there are long waiting lists for non urgent surgery etc but if you need tests or treatment it's free. well, our tax dollars pay for it.

please betticus, check out the schemes which might be available. charity begins at home and there's no point in the usa saving the world if it's own tax paying citizens can't afford medical treatment.

 

[BiBunny]

australians can't believe your hopeless medical situation where if you can't pay you don't get treatment. is that the situation that obama is trying to fix with his health bill?

we have medicare which covers everyone in a public hospital for free. it's certainly not perfect and there are long waiting lists for non urgent surgery etc but if you need tests or treatment it's free. well, our tax dollars pay for it.

please betticus, check out the schemes which might be available. charity begins at home and there's no point in the usa saving the world if it's own tax paying citizens can't afford medical treatment.

Welcome to the greatest nation in the world.

 

[Netzach]

You might see if the hospital has a charity care program. When I was in the hospital last year I didn't think I would qualify for the charity care discount but I did and my obligation to the hospital was cut in half. And since you've been unable to work it should be a slam dunk.

I know its hard to decide to go that route and its easy to think "I don't *need* charity" but finding out they think you need charity sure lifts a load from the shoulders. Plus, the government gives them money to run programs like that so its not like its comming out of their pocket; in a way your tax dollars pay for it in the first place.

This.

And debt is resolvable whereas death is not. Yes it blows owing money but it's very abstract.

I've yet to be refused anything so long as I have my insurance card. When you don't have that you're royally screwed, but nonprofit hospitals usually have a shred way to get you some care when you don't.

I was uninsured but had every diagnostic known to man when I was admitted via ER. There is a reason the ER situation is how it is - I wasn't taxing it with a cold, but with a serious issue. They HAVE to screen there.

Generally MD's hate the insurers and want to give care, even if their care is sometimes kind of dumb. I dunno. YMMV, my hospital is a nonprofit one.

I just kind of laughed at my remicade bill today, they get it after my taxes are paid.

 

[EmpressFi]

Nurse practitioners? They suck, too. One tried to tell me that my asthma was a sinus infection. *Facepalm*

lpn's are licensed practical nurses and to some just one level higher than a nurses aide. Nurse Practitioners are CNP's.

 

[intothewoods]

When you're dealing with a debilitating illness that doesn't present as immediately life-threatening, it can be very frustrating and difficult to get anyone to pay attention to you.

I will say though that I am very grateful for my doctors. And Mister Man now has a great one too. They are out there. Of course, it's easier to find a good doctor in a major metropolitan area, buy do try to talk to everyone you can to find a recommendation.

 

[FurryFury]

I'm looking for a good doctor now that is on my "health plan" it's not going well.

 

[shewantsmore]

At least a poor doctor is better than none at all

 

[FurryFury]

I don't agree.

 

[shewantsmore]

what other choice do you have.the national health service in the uk is struggling now and you have to waite for ages to see a Dr but what else can you do

 

[intothewoods]

I'm looking for a good doctor now that is on my "health plan" it's not going well.

It's difficult. And a lot of good doctors are frustrated with insurance and limit what they take. It just annoys me when people disparage all doctors.

 

[FurryFury]

It's difficult. And a lot of good doctors are frustrated with insurance and limit what they take. It just annoys me when people disparage all doctors.

I've seen a lot of incompetence, not just in my own health care professionals but those of most people I know. That's where I'm coming from. Often I am my own best doctor with the help of google. Seriously.

It seems to me that too many docs are generally taught that women are all hysterical and imaging illnesses, even women docs.

And yet . . . anytime you mention to anyone any health issues, they say, go to the doctor like it's a magic spell that will work every time. What often happens for me and those I know very well is that we go, we spend the time, and money, then are not helped in any way.

At this moment in time, and this is not unusual for me, I've decided no one is going to help me in the health care professions, at least no one I can find. So I'm just going to have to get better on my own somehow. I've done it before with other issues so who knows, maybe I can do it again.

 

[Netzach]

I've seen a lot of incompetence, not just in my own health care professionals but those of most people I know. That's where I'm coming from. Often I am my own best doctor with the help of google. Seriously.

It seems to me that too many docs are generally taught that women are all hysterical and imaging illnesses, even women docs.

And yet . . . anytime you mention to anyone any health issues, they say, go to the doctor like it's a magic spell that will work every time. What often happens for me and those I know very well is that we go, we spend the time, and money, then are not helped in any way.

At this moment in time, and this is not unusual for me, I've decided no one is going to help me in the health care professions, at least no one I can find. So I'm just going to have to get better on my own somehow. I've done it before with other issues so who knows, maybe I can do it again.

I can't argue with this.

If you're critically ill, MD's get smart for a while. As long as your body stays on the bell curve of however it's supposed to react to the meds they inevitably prescribe. Have an adverse reaction and it's back to dumb and dumber. Fail to get well and watch them actually begin to get frustrated with you.

There's no attention paid to outside the bell curve data. If you don't read the inserts before starting a new med and do your own cost benefit analysis you will only find out what the serious side effects are when you have them. There are no mentions of side effects, even when there is a small but significant risk of death. For example - M has migraines that don't carry pain but do carry visual disturbances. They're annoying, not debilitating. They give him imitrex with no mention of some very serious side effects that it's got, right up to stroke.

If he were in excruciating pain constantly it would be a no-brainer but as it is, he's chosen the less risky path of just waiting them out.

Admittedly there are at least as many dumb pt's as dumb MD's. You can't accuse me of being unfair.

If you're female, it's in your head, right up until the point where your head IS the problem and then all of a sudden they're extremely reticent to give you an antidepressant at a dosage that does anything or an antianxiety that does anything.

If you're male, however, there's no such thing as pain. Expect invasive procedures like sig flex or urerthral scopes to be completely brutal. If they treated me the way they treat M I'd be in court.

 

[FurryFury]

I so agree with you.

Is he having ocular migraines? There is no pain but it's awfully hard to see well during them.

I know someone that has arthritis in her neck like I do. Instead of wanting her to take Aleve or the prescription version of Naproxen Sodium they want to give her ever increasing doses of Vicodin? WTF?

 

[Netzach]

I so agree with you.

Is he having ocular migraines? There is no pain but it's awfully hard to see well during them.

I know someone that has arthritis in her neck like I do. Instead of wanting her to take Aleve or the prescription version of Naproxen Sodium they want to give her ever increasing doses of Vicodin? WTF?

eek face is right!

I think that's what they're called. They freaked us out the first time, as he was also having trouble with words and understanding them, and a CT scan later it showed activity wherever it is that migraines light up your brain. Too much coffee not enough sleep sets it off.

I've actually had fairly good MD experiences, but I'm just the right amount of sick to trigger some smartness. More sick and it's back to duhhhh I think. Though there was the blood clot which I'm certain was no one telling me BC was a bad idea.

 

[bethie3333]

So I went in for the biopsy this morning and was in admitting when they told me that my part would be 867 dollars. I'm still paying off last years medical bills and keeping up (barely) with living expenses, etc..

So, I couldn't afford to get the biopsy repeated and I will instead just go with my first instinct which is this isn't cancer, it's just an infection.

omg.....I just read this whole thread and cant believe the problems you are having both physically and with doctors..........My heart goes out to you......I saw the pictures you posted and you sure have lost a lot of weight........good luck and I hope it is just some infection that will get cleared up.

 

[intothewoods]

I have had a variety of different health issues, none of which were life threatening. Mister Man has had more random weird ass health issues. Between the two of us, some doctors were better than others, but we both landed with people who were determined to get to the bottom of what was going on. We have good health insurance though, and I'm very thankful for it.

 

[intothewoods]

p.s. to Netzach - did you hear the this American Life about the guy with the worm business?

 

[FurryFury]

eek face is right!

I think that's what they're called. They freaked us out the first time, as he was also having trouble with words and understanding them, and a CT scan later it showed activity wherever it is that migraines light up your brain. Too much coffee not enough sleep sets it off.

I've actually had fairly good MD experiences, but I'm just the right amount of sick to trigger some smartness. More sick and it's back to duhhhh I think. Though there was the blood clot which I'm certain was no one telling me BC was a bad idea.

I've had two ocular migraines. They are strange as hell but, like you mentioned they are not painful. They usually abate in 20-30 minutes. I had to look it up online to figure out WTF it was.

Glad you've had good docs.