Fucking Her While Spanking Her?

[JarringJoe]

Over the weekend I exchanged e-mails with another Master with whom I was discussing the possibility of getting together with our sluts for a foursome. I happened to mention (in discussing varioius scenarios) that my slut K loved having me slip my cock into her pussy when she sprawled across my lap to be spanked. The other Master came right back and said he would NEVER permit his slut to enjoy that pleasure while she was being chastised. He was so strong about his feelings that I began to wonder if I was in a minority -- in that fucking K as I spanked her deviated from the "norm." To me, fucking her in such a situation is quite natural: lordy, having a bare pussy pressed against your hard cock seems to call for fucking, eh?

Any thoughts out there?

FYI, I've also flogged and strapped K's ass while she was on top of another Master. She says the stings add to the intensity of her orgasms.

 

[matl]

Not Totaly Into The "Master/Slave" Scene But

My wife and I do enjoy bondage and she does enjoy being spanked. As far as we are conserned, giving her a good spanking while we fuck is enjoyable for both of us. For me each time I smack her ass she tightens up, need I say more? For her, each swat forces my cock deeper into her. Just my feelings, but we enjoy it a lot.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

She's your submissive and you've agreed on what the two of you like and don't like correct? So, who is he to tell you how to deal with her?

i prefer her on knees, shoulders and face; a hand wrapped in her hair and pinned between her shoulder blades; jack hammer and a metronome strike of the hand.

 

[WriterDom]

I consider spanking as play and not chastising. Punishment would be done with something like a cane, and with her out of subspace. To each their own but my guess is that he would be in the minority.

 

[Etoile]

Spanking while fucking is not the same thing as fucking while spanking, I think.

 

[Marie Lavallois]

I love to be on my hands and knees, cock up pussy or ass, while my ass is being swatted.

 

[ownedsubgal]

for that particular Dominant, spankings may be disciplinary only, so that could explain his feelings on the matter. my Master would never want me to enjoy a disciplinary spanking either (and trust me i wouldn't!). but not all spankings are about discipline, sometimes they are erotic, and when that is the case yes i often enjoy it, and he will often spank me erotically while using me vaginally or anally.

and Etoile is right, spanking while fucking and fucking while spanking are two different things. my Master sometimes spanks me while he fucks me. He would NEVER fuck me during a spanking.

 

[JarringJoe]

I see the distinction....

Subgal and Etoile, I get your point about the difference between erotic and disciplinary spanking. My strappings of Kitsy for punishment alone are few and far between, seldom more than once weekly, and my cock never goes near her pussy when they occur. Nor will I permit her to masturbate while she is being disciplined, no matter how hard she begs. Thanks for the comments. Etoile, do check your PM when you get a moment.

Joe

 

[ownedsubgal]

JarringJoe, if i may ask, why would she want to masturbate during discipline? if it's arousing to her in some way, well that doesn't sound much like punishment to me. i am just imagining the way Daddy spanks me during a punishment...*wincing*...the last thing on my mind is anything erotic!

 

[Daedalus77]

I think this issue raises a good point. How do you punish some one that likes pain? I have had to find altenatives like denial of something she wants. It feels odd to not spank her to punish her but it works. In my book pain can be fun but I don't want punishment to be fun.

 

[ownedsubgal]

imo the very worst punishments are those that are completely non-physical. my Master has only given me a non-physical punishment once, in our 3+ years together, and i hope i never have to experience that again. it was far more painful and torturous than any flogging/spanking/whipping/beating could ever be.

but even if one is "into" pain, trust me, there is a pain out there they will not find enjoyable in the least. i used to wonder how anyone could ever think of spankings as punishment, since i loved them so much...this was of course before i met my Master, and experienced one of HIS "not for fun" spankings....i was crying and screaming before a minute had passed. so even with things you like, there is always a way to do them so it will be very very unpleasant.

 

[JarringJoe]

Subgal, the female mind is something that I do not always fathom, but pain is a sexual turn-on for Kitsy. She almost always has "unassisted" orgasms when I am spanking her, or using a leather strap on her ass. I suppose that her sexual feelings simply overcome the pain.

Still, she can be a tricky vixen (which is why she gets most of her disciplinary spankings). For instance, for more than a year she had me convinced that she felt "humiliated and shamed" when I ordered her to Jill Off in the presence of other persons. She would carry out my directions but she would cry and feign acute mental distress even as she did so. When masturbating for me alone, she can cum in a matter of minutes, but when doing so as an "exhibition" the act seemed to drag on forever. Then, she freed the proverbial cat from the bag by accidentally saying how much she enjoyed masturbating with outsiders watching, especially women. (The admission got her a good ass-stinging.)

I have never tested her limit on how much pain she could endure without having a sexual rush. Perhaps that is something I should explore. I do NOT think I can reach that point spanking her, although a really serious strapping might do so.

This discussion has been very interesting. Thanks, everyone, for chiming in.

 

[ownedsubgal]

thanks for answering my question JarringJoe, i think i understand a lil better now.

"I have never tested her limit on how much pain she could endure without having a sexual rush. Perhaps that is something I should explore. I do NOT think I can reach that point spanking her, although a really serious strapping might do so."

yes, i doubt a spanking will take her there. i can be hurt very unpleasurably with a spanking but it takes an extremely severe spanking to get me there. the belt or the strap makes me reach that point of suffering far quicker. not to mention my Master's bare hands in a closed fist against all my boney parts...chest, back, arms etc. i am still suffering at this very minute from a fist blow he gave me to the middle of my spine over a month ago. i am starting to think it will never stop hurting! lol

 

[CavaliereScuro]

Good thread.

Spanking while fucking or fucking while spanking is interchangeable if your sub enjoys or gets pleasure from being spanked. Either way, she is not seeing it as punishment.

In my personal experience, I have never had a sub that didn't enjoy spanking and therefore never use it as punishment. I get great pleasure from giving over the knee spankings though so why not get even more enjoyment out of it by teasing her into begging to cum? Twist or play with her nipples, finger her clit, then, as someone else said here, slide my cock in and fuck her. Doesn't take long to hear those great words 'Master, pleeeeeese may I cum???"

As for punishment, I have always felt that the most hated punishments are the ones that don't even involve pain. Deprivation works best and they truly hate it. Especially sensory deprivation.

For those haven't tried in on your sub, I highly recommend it. *chuckling*

 

[Croctden]

Over the weekend I exchanged e-mails with another Master with whom I was discussing the possibility of getting together with our sluts for a foursome. I happened to mention (in discussing varioius scenarios) that my slut K loved having me slip my cock into her pussy when she sprawled across my lap to be spanked. The other Master came right back and said he would NEVER permit his slut to enjoy that pleasure while she was being chastised. He was so strong about his feelings that I began to wonder if I was in a minority -- in that fucking K as I spanked her deviated from the "norm." To me, fucking her in such a situation is quite natural: lordy, having a bare pussy pressed against your hard cock seems to call for fucking, eh?

Yes, you have deviated from the norm. Do you give a fuck? I have not idea if everything I do is standard practice, if I like it ...jackpot!

I do spank and fuck at the same time. I spank and get blown at the same time. I spank and ream at the same time. I spank and do many things. Gotta love spanking, it's so much fun.

As to punishment, I don't spank, I either do nonphysical or I hog tie - it strains the muscles and leaves lasting nonsexual pain.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

... As for punishment, I have always felt that the most hated punishments are the ones that don't even involve pain. Deprivation works best and they truly hate it ... For those haven't tried in on your sub, I highly recommend it. *chuckling*

Totally agree with this rationale, take the deprivation one step further ... deprive them of your presence for the evening ala ...

Originally posted by Croctden
... As to punishment, I don't spank, I either do nonphysical or I hog tie - it strains the muscles and leaves lasting nonsexual pain.

 

[FungiUg]

I don't spank for punishment. I spank for pleasure! So I will often have my fingers in her cunt and arse while I spank her with my other hand. Or if I am fucking her with her arse in the air, then who can resist a few well placed hard swats?

Whatever rocks your boat!

 

[sirhugs]

spanking as play

woman on top, facing me as I lie on my back
her nipples in my face
my cock deep inside her
spanking her as she bounces up and down

 

[DisGirlisNutz]

I say if you both like to spank/be spanked while fucking then you should do it!!!!!
IMO in BD/sm there is no right or wrong way of doing it. ( unless you want to get into how to and not to Flog) You should do what come naturally to you, If fucking her gives you and your sub pleasure why shouldn't you do it? Isn't BD/sm about pleasuring you and your sub... Unless being punished. I don't believe you will find a BD/sm book saying it is wrong.

Not to mention my Master's bare hands in a closed fist against all my boney parts...chest, back, arms etc. i am still suffering at this very minute from a fist blow he gave me to the middle of my spine over a month ago. i am starting to think it will never stop hurting! lol

Imo..... This should have never happened! Punishing someone and beating the shit out of your sub is just plain wrong!
There is a fine line.... I think your master crossed it.

Obviously this is only my opinion.....I am sure people would disagree with me....

DGN

 

[ownedsubgal]

"I say if you both like to spank/be spanked while fucking then you should do it!!!!!
IMO in BD/sm there is no right or wrong way of doing it. ( unless you want to get into how to and not to Flog) You should do what come naturally to you, If fucking her gives you and your sub pleasure why shouldn't you do it? Isn't BD/sm about pleasuring you and your sub... Unless being punished. I don't believe you will find a BD/sm book saying it is wrong."


i agree with this of course, one should do what one feels, what brings one pleasure and joy and happiness, as long as it brings no harm to those outside the relationship/situation.

however this was out of place:


"Imo..... This should have never happened! Punishing someone and beating the shit out of your sub is just plain wrong!
There is a fine line.... I think your master crossed it."


punishment is a part of many unions, if it's not a part of yours (if you are in one) then that's fine, but no need to look down upon those of us who do believe in a Master's right to discipline and punish. as for beating the heck outta me, that's my Master's right, i'm his property, and i adore being his property. i understood the sort of Dominant and Man he was before becoming involved with him and i fell in love with the entire package. we are both getting what we need. this lifestyle is not about sex, or fun and games for us.

 

[catalina_francisco]

punishment is a part of many unions, if it's not a part of yours (if you are in one) then that's fine, but no need to look down upon those of us who do believe in a Master's right to discipline and punish. as for beating the heck outta me, that's my Master's right, i'm his property, and i adore being his property. i understood the sort of Dominant and Man he was before becoming involved with him and i fell in love with the entire package. we are both getting what we need. this lifestyle is not about sex, or fun and games for us.

I agree with you Ownedsubgal, if this is what both of you want then it is your fullest right to enjoy it without being harassed because of it. Although I would not do that to my sub, it has nothing to do with the fact that it is your fullest right to it.

About the spanking and punishing question I have had that question asked to me by several subs that were heavy into pain.

Ask yourself a question, do you enjoy it when you accidentally hurt you toe by hitting something, do you enjoy it when you burn your fingers by accident, do you enjoy it when you fall down on the street and hurt your knees. If the answer to those question is yes then pain can never be an effective means of punishment, if not then you are already making the distinction between pain and SM pain.

Francisco.

 

[SuzieCool]

Spanking



I'm very much into spanking.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Re: Spanking

I'm very much into spanking.

Pity your heart(s) is in the wrong place ... http://www.1st-vets.org/forum/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif

 

[Temptress_1960]

Re: Re: Fucking Her While Spanking Her?

i prefer her on knees, shoulders and face; a hand wrapped in her hair and pinned between her shoulder blades; jack hammer and a metronome strike of the hand.

Now this...


Sounds like a very good idea.

 

[BlueSugar]

I love to be on my hands and knees, cock up pussy or ass, while my ass is being swatted.

i agree