French woman convicted of killing abusive husband, set free

[LupusDei]

French woman convicted of killing abusive husband, set free

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/25/french-woman-stands-trial-for-killing-abusive-husband

A French mother of four was sentenced to one year in prison on Friday for killing her husband after decades of sexual, physical and psychological abuse.

Valerie Bacot, 40, has admitted to shooting Daniel Polette dead in 2016. Polette was her stepfather, who later married her and forced her into prostitution.

In March 2016, after Polette ordered Bacot to undergo yet another sexual humiliation by a client, she used the pistol that he kept in the car to kill him with a single bullet to the back of the neck while he was in the driver’s seat.

Bacot said she wanted to make sure her daughter would not suffer the same fate that she had.

“I wanted to save her,” she said.

The circumstances of the shooting rule out any possible claim of legitimate self-defence.

A jury in Chalon-sur-Saone, central France, found Bacot guilty of the murder. She was sentenced to one year in prison and a three-year suspended sentence.

The verdict allows her to walk free, as she has already served time in preventive detention.

Fair ruling, isn't it?

 

[stickygirl]

It is but, the years that the French police and authorities ignored her pleas for help, the fact that her husband was convicted of her sexual assaults and was then free to go back to the family home to continue abusing her, speaks of the complete failure of the French law system. The verdict was greeted with applause in court but someone needs to be held to account for ignoring her for so many years.

 

[hobbit.]

crme du passionelle or some other such frog bullshit. shame they wernt as proactive in the war.

 

[girlsmiley]

French woman convicted of killing abusive husband, set free

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/25/french-woman-stands-trial-for-killing-abusive-husband



Fair ruling, isn't it?

Does it seem fair to you? It's your thread.

 

[LupusDei]

Does it seem fair to you? It's your thread.

As a way out of the bad situation, yes.

That the situation allowed to come to this is a failure on itself stickygirl of course is right. But no system can be there for everyone (or we might see it as nightmare for other reasons if it was). The underlying situation shouldn't have been, the solution shouldn't have been what it was, but given the facts, that's probably best that could be done, afterwards.

As I understand it, there was no way she could be been acquitted, she did what she did, deliberately and with intent. Saying she's not guilty wouldn't be right either. Then, the circumstances why she had to do it was bad enough I honestly believe everyone would, even should have done exactly the same, opportunity arising.

The outcome, that formally, she's convinced (and this may, possibly, carry subtle penalties onward, I don't know French system on this) while let go in practice, seems logical for me. While I also understand it may not be typical or easy achieved; legal justice is often blunt, "common sense" and nuance is often in short supply. In that sense at least, it is good.

 

[mayfly13]

What disturbs me about ALL articles that I came across, is the lack of evidence.

"He ordered her to", "he told her to" but where's the concrete evidence?
Are we supposed to accept it as truth, because the writers tell us it is so?

I am very inclined to believe she was his victim, and that the French Court went soft on her due to concrete evidence as opposed to "it's true because she said so"
but this is sloppy reporting

 

[colddiesel]

French Juries are different to what we are used to. They usually comprise in serious cases, 3 judges sitting with 6 or nine members of the Public. They tend to reach verdicts more swiftly than our juries, and appeals against their verdicts on grounds of law have a very small record of success.

They have been particularly effective in dealing with complex white collar crime.

 

[mayfly13]

But how do we know 100% that he Did abuse her and coerce her into prostitution?

The children testified about the abuse but mind you, they had a stake in it because They helped her cover up the crime by burying him in the woods.
The children said that they sought help from Police twice yet they were turned away., but Police has ho record of it.

I am truly sympathetic for her how that monster screwed up her life with statutory rape when she was 12 etc etc, it's probable that what she said is true,
but we're talking about premeditated murder here, not a reactive/self-defense when he was beating her.


We need evidence, more than "she said/they said" - like visits to the doctor with bruises, statements from non-family members etc etc.
Sloppy reporting by the mainstream press.

 

[ishtat]

But how do we know 100% that he Did abuse her and coerce her into prostitution?

I am truly sympathetic for her how that monster screwed up her life with statutory rape when she was 12 etc etc, it's probable that what she said is true,
but we're talking about premeditated murder here, not a reactive/self-defense when he was beating her.

We need evidence, more than "she said/they said" - like visits to the doctor with bruises, statements from non-family members etc etc.
Sloppy reporting by the mainstream press.

Not so sloppy at all.

1 There are some 20 separate reports found through the simplest Google search.

2 The sentence was the one the Prosecution suggested as appropriate.

3. His family, not hers gave evidence of his brutality and the fact that in addition he had raped his own younger sister.

4. He had previous convictions for assaulting women.

5 He had pimping convictions.

6.Your pre-meditation argument is a presumption

The court was satisfied, you are not. Possibly your problem?

 

[Dribble]

Not so sloppy at all.

1 There are some 20 separate reports found through the simplest Google search.

2 The sentence was the one the Prosecution suggested as appropriate.

3. His family, not hers gave evidence of his brutality and the fact that in addition he had raped his own younger sister.

4. He had previous convictions for assaulting women.

5 He had pimping convictions.

6.Your pre-meditation argument is a presumption

The court was satisfied, you are not. Possibly your problem?

Mic drop

 

[mayfly13]

Not so sloppy at all.

1 There are some 20 separate reports found through the simplest Google search.

2 The sentence was the one the Prosecution suggested as appropriate.

3. His family, not hers gave evidence of his brutality and the fact that in addition he had raped his own younger sister.

4. He had previous convictions for assaulting women.

5 He had pimping convictions.

6.Your pre-meditation argument is a presumption

The court was satisfied, you are not. Possibly your problem?

Good to know. Would you mind pasting the links you found useful too?



I googled it, and the news articles I came across were presenting the story like this: "He was convicted of.....and then would go into a tirade about how she was abused then beaten up etc."
No mention of the supporting facts you outlined.

I'm sorry, the problem rests with the declining standards of mass-media, not with me.
I don't have skills to properly research the internet, it's the duty of reporters to give us all the facts.

 

[hobbit.]

If only either one of them had worn a german army uniform - the other one would have run away.

 

[mayfly13]

I'm sorry, but I'm exasperated by the likes of dribble, ishtard, ogg & & & & &

who regularly masturbate to and defend stolen (often revenge) porn
while virtue signalling and crap.

Oh, puleeaze.
Instead of thumping your chests & pointing fingers
please show us the links and rationale, inform and educate us!
massmedia did lazy reporting.

 

[DanDraper]

I read about this last week, it's fair considering all that she had been through.



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[wallstreetguy]

No doubt: Very happy she is free. He deserved it and worse. Hope she is able to get counseling so she does not just go to a new pimp. that happens too often, tragically.
Hoping she and her family recover. Awful story.

 

[hobbit.]

My mention of a German army uniform may have upset some people, instead then visualise someone in a Swiss Football kit. Same effect on the French.

 

[stickygirl]

My mention of a German army uniform may have upset some people, instead then visualise someone in a Swiss Football kit. Same effect on the French.

Time to stop digging that hole, hobbit

 

[hobbit.]

Time to stop digging that hole, hobbit

indeed. nice game last night though.

 

[stickygirl]

indeed. nice game last night though.

Sent them packing.... about time too

 

[hobbit.]

indeed.