Four Day Workweek

[ll74]

It's unlikely any government will actively push for a four day week. They need gdpr to grow, not shrink.

It sounds like the OP read it somewhere that some government was going to do that.

Almost sounds like something to share with others in discussion.... But... ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It sounds like the OP read it somewhere that some government was going to do that.

Almost sounds like something to share with others in discussion.... But... ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

I guess the "gateway pundit"

 

[Bray123]

Some years ago I was on a rolling 24/7 8hr shift system that was very unpopular. One of the guys worked out a 12hr shift (2 days, 2 nights, 4 days off with a odd extra day off every month to make the hours work out).

We petitioned management to let us try it and it was fantastic. Everyone loved the time off (6 days in every 8 were free) but the bosses as they could never find us. Like as not our days were on a weekend, so it was sometimes a fortnight before we saw anyone who thought they were important. Despite the extra hours the productivity and morale rose.

I'm not sure what the moral here is, except you never know until you try. Productivity and moral has risen amongst those working from home since covid, I know of nobody asking to commute to an office once more.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Yeah. I'm that old.



Tell me, since I have also worked a four-day shift for a very large enterprise, how does that work out for your mom and pop or other small entrpenuer startup and how many more breaks must be included and what happens to productivity when you hire part-time fill-ins and, why would you even hire full-time people anyway knowing that? It saves you in benefit costs to only hire part-time.

Ideas like this are floated by people with no business experience who "know" what it takes to run a business to benefit the worker, but never the owner (the risk-taker) or the shareholder (the investment class, retirees)...

A forklift driver would know better can economists? I bet you barely tie your own shoes.

 

[Yesok1]

Some years ago I was on a rolling 24/7 8hr shift system that was very unpopular. One of the guys worked out a 12hr shift (2 days, 2 nights, 4 days off with a odd extra day off every month to make the hours work out).

We petitioned management to let us try it and it was fantastic. Everyone loved the time off (6 days in every 8 were free) but the bosses as they could never find us. Like as not our days were on a weekend, so it was sometimes a fortnight before we saw anyone who thought they were important. Despite the extra hours the productivity and morale rose.

I'm not sure what the moral here is, except you never know until you try. Productivity and moral has risen amongst those working from home since covid, I know of nobody asking to commute to an office once more.

Here companies are bringing their work force back to offices as productivity has suffered, they are also paying rent and need the spaces filled. Workforce is also happy to go back for the social aspect of human interaction.

 

[coati]

That ought to attract the type of voters we're looking for!

Fine idea Sire!


IS IT???

^^^Right-wing "newbies" on Lit are so tedious.

Talk to us about being an authority on why change is always bad after we get accustomed to your latest user name.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Here companies are bringing their work force back to offices as productivity has suffered,

I'm going to disagree. There are many studies, most show productivity is about the same.

they are also paying rent and need the spaces filled.

Bingo, this is the real reason, office space is a part of the overhead. If you're paying for it, you may as well use it. Which is the big driver behind the push to return back to the office.

 

[jomar]

Studies have shown…

https://joshbersin.com/2023/11/the-four-day-work-week-an-idea-whose-time-has-come/

https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/bcnews/na...ciology/-study-pilots-four-day-work-week.html

 

[lovecraft68]

Okay four day work week 40 hours pay?

What about overtime where a lot of people get much needed extra money?

My company does 4 ten hour days for production, and if they're busy people can work 8 hours on Friday, a great mix of making extra money, and still having a weekend off.

That still in play with this, or is this another genius idea like insane minimum wage increases that cost people their jobs instead of making them a better living?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Okay four day work week 40 hours pay?

Ask AJ,he's the one whining about something.

What about overtime where a lot of people get much needed extra money?

Again ask AJ, he's the one whining about it.

My company does 4 ten hour days for production, and if they're busy people can work 8 hours on Friday, a great mix of making extra money, and still having a weekend off.

Ask AJ, he seems to think that four days is wrong.

That still in play with this, or is this another genius idea like insane minimum wage increases that cost people their jobs instead of making them a better living?

True or false; there are more jobs today than in 1980?

 

[lovecraft68]

Ask AJ,he's the one whining about something.

Again ask AJ, he's the one whining about it.

Ask AJ, he seems to think that four days is wrong.

True or false; there are more jobs today than in 1980?

True or false, there are more people and businesses now than in 1980, just the I/T jobs alone.

True or false, many of the "new jobs being filled" are people who can't make it on one income and need a second job?

I should have known better than to ask actual questions from people who only have a defensive mentality that someone is attacking their precious political side.

 

[ll74]

True or false, there are more people and businesses now than in 1980, just the I/T jobs alone.

True or false, many of the "new jobs being filled" are people who can't make it on one income and need a second job?

I should have known better than to ask actual questions from people who only have a defensive mentality that someone is attacking their precious political side.

You're asking questions to the OP, who failed to provide context to his thread, purposely.

He doesn't want a discussion, ever. He just wants people to post their reactions and then sweep in to tell everyone how superior he is.

No government is advocating for a mandate on a 4 day work week. At best, a few representatives may be in favor of such a thing.... But neither party is providing support for this

 

[Bray123]

I'm going to disagree. There are many studies, most show productivity is about the same.

Bingo, this is the real reason, office space is a part of the overhead. If you're paying for it, you may as well use it. Which is the big driver behind the push to return back to the office.

My office has actually moved premises since 2020, the new office is half the size and isn't big enough for more than half the team to come in at a time. They save on a whole lot of overheads; from cleaners to car park space.

The only people who care are politicians who want the sandwich bars to be more profitable (and those companies as well of course) and big oil who want to sell me more fuel but that has no influence here.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

True or false, there are more people and businesses now than in 1980, just the I/T jobs alone.

Of course there are. That was my point. Your's was about minimum wage being a drag on the economy and a driver of inflation.

True or false, many of the "new jobs being filled" are people who can't make it on one income and need a second job?

True and false.

I should have known better than to ask actual questions from people who only have a defensive mentality that someone is attacking their precious political side.

Of your four main comments, my post asked you to get the OP to answer. On your point on minimum wage, I asked a question, which you deflected from by asking two of your own. Which I have answered

So I ask a question and you deflect and they cry I'm being political.

Grow up, or stay the fuck off this board.

 

[Crownvic]

I used to work..four day week...12 hours..a day..

 

[Fuzzy1975]

My office has actually moved premises since 2020, the new office is half the size and isn't big enough for more than half the team to come in at a time. They save on a whole lot of overheads; from cleaners to car park space.

The only people who care are politicians who want the sandwich bars to be more profitable (and those companies as well of course) and big oil who want to sell me more fuel but that has no influence here.

Prior to COVD, the company I retired from just built a complete new office building. In fact it was completed during COVID and commissioned in 2023. As of 2024 the company still has a split work schedule. Production has not dropped off due to working from home. But there are times when working as a group has advantages. It's still cheaper to keep resources under one roof, than paying for it to be accessed remotely by workers, and the associated security costs of access to keep electronic files accessible to a remote work force.

If the company had known this back in 2019, the new building would not have been built, since the old building could have fulfilled the capacity needs with a rotating work force who only needs office access two or three days a week.