Four Day Workweek

[JoePepsiCo]

That ought to attract the type of voters we're looking for!

Fine idea Sire!


IS IT???

 

[Fuzzy1975]

That ought to attract the type of voters we're looking for!

Fine idea Sire!


IS IT???

One of my son's works at a place that is on a four day schedule. Loves it.

I'll bet you argued against the 5 day work week when it became the "standard" work week. Am I right?

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Yeah. I'm that old.



Tell me, since I have also worked a four-day shift for a very large enterprise, how does that work out for your mom and pop or other small entrpenuer startup and how many more breaks must be included and what happens to productivity when you hire part-time fill-ins and, why would you even hire full-time people anyway knowing that? It saves you in benefit costs to only hire part-time.

Ideas like this are floated by people with no business experience who "know" what it takes to run a business to benefit the worker, but never the owner (the risk-taker) or the shareholder (the investment class, retirees)...

 

[Yesok1]

Four day weeks were introduced here under labour in the 70s. It was brought in when the economy was tanking. It meant that companies reduced their salaried costs but having less of a factory workforce working. They tried to drive productivity at lower cost. It didn't work and the five day week returned.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Bad ideas never die, they just get repackaged.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yeah. I'm that old.

Well don't let me stop you from going back to a six day week then.

Tell me, since I have also worked a four-day shift for a very large enterprise, how does that work out for your mom and pop or other small entrpenuer startup and how many more breaks must be included and what happens to productivity when you hire part-time fill-ins and, why would you even hire full-time people anyway knowing that? It saves you in benefit costs to only hire part-time.

It's split shifts for a six day a week operation. Saturdays are rotated, I think it's every five weeks and you work Saturday (overtime pay). The above/ below is the same argument made about going to five days a week, you must be that old.

Ideas like this are floated by people with no business experience who "know" what it takes to run a business to benefit the worker, but never the owner (the risk-taker) or the shareholder (the investment class, retirees)...

 

[Yesok1]

Well don't let me stop you from going back to a six day week then.

It's split shifts for a six day a week operation. Saturdays are rotated, I think it's every five weeks and you work Saturday (overtime pay). The above/ below is the same argument made about going to five days a week, you must be that old.

So basically they're doing a circa 40hour week. A four day week would be a circq 32 hour week. Ha ha.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

When you have no valid point, then you engage in the person.

For the record, I've even had construction jobs that were seven days a week to meet a deadline, but it was a well-paid workweek that I could have walked away from at any time. None of which is the issue.

The issue is a one-size fits all government mandate from at least one person who, other than politics, has never even held a real job.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

So basically they're doing a circa 40hour week. A four day week would be a circq 32 hour week. Ha ha.

They are doing a four day work week. 8 hours a shift. When they dropped the 8 hours,they gave an across the board raise, that was 5 years ago I think ( could be only 4).

City of Toronto implemented a 35 hour work week back in 2001 for certain employees. (for example)

https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/accountability-operations-customer-service/city-administration/corporate-policies/people-equity-policies/standard-working-hours/#:~:text=Policy Statement,for certain jobs, when necessary.



Standard work week used to be a 60 hour week, which dropped to 40 hours. Many today are at 38.5 or 35. Some are at 32.

Laughing at how a business employs it people is pretty ignorant.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

employs

 

[Fuzzy1975]

employs

Man I'm having a bad day today....lol good thing you're around to spellcheck for me!!

 

[ll74]

I know plenty of people who work four day workweeks. Makes for a better weekend.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Hopefully that weekend makes up for the time not spent with the family/friends.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

For the record, I've even had construction jobs that were seven days a week to meet a deadline, but it was a well-paid workweek that I could have walked away from at any time. None of which is the issue.

Moving to a four day week doesn't change anything above from moving to a five day week, now does it?

The issue is a one-size fits all government mandate from at least one person who, other than politics, has never even held a real job.

What mandate? Show me where Government is pushing this by law.

 

[ll74]

Hopefully that weekend makes up for the time not spent with the family/friends.

What?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Four day weeks were introduced here under labour in the 70s. It was brought in when the economy was tanking. It meant that companies reduced their salaried costs but having less of a factory workforce working. They tried to drive productivity at lower cost. It didn't work and the five day week returned.

Today's work force is driving the bus. With the retirement of the Boomers, it's getting hard to fill the jobs. Hell after COVID,just trying to get them to return to the office is an issue.

People sitting around the keyboard trying to claim what works, and will only work is bullshit.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

I truly hope your mental spaghetti begins to stick to the wall because so far, it's a bit al dente...

 

[Yesok1]

Moving to a four day week doesn't change anything above from moving to a five day week, now does it?

What mandate? Show me where Government is pushing this by law.

It's unlikely any government will actively push for a four day week. They need gdpr to grow, not shrink.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's unlikely any government will actively push for a four day week.

I agree

They need gdpr to grow, not shrink.

GDP won't shrink, just because of the hours worked in a week.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Hopefully that weekend makes up for the time not spent with the family/friends.

What?

I don't think he's going to try and explain his logic on this....

 

[Yesok1]

I agree

GDP won't shrink, just because of the hours worked in a week.

It will if productivity is reduced because of loss of man hours

 

[hulmule]

Work 4-10's have the weekend off...

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It will if productivity is reduced because of loss of man hours

Most productivity comes from Tech now, not so much from the employee.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

That ought to attract the type of voters we're looking for!

Fine idea Sire!


IS IT???

You tried....good thread fail!

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Captain Hypocrite strikes again!

I truly hope your mental spaghetti begins to stick to the wall because so far, it's a bit al dente...

Someone posted something a little earlier in the thread that seems an appropriate response.

"When you have no valid point, then you engage in the person."