For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ChloeTzang]

Invasion? What invasion? Putin is downplaying Ukraine’s Kursk offensive​

In the space of just two weeks, Ukraine has claimed more Russian land than Putin’s army managed to seize in Ukraine since the start of 2024. Kyiv’s bold summer offensive caught the Kremlin completely off-guard and has transformed perceptions of a war that many believed was moving slowly but surely toward an inevitable Russian victory. Rarely in the history of modern warfare has any military succeeded in pulling off such a stunning surprise..... Putin's underwhelming response to Ukraine’s Kursk offensive can be at least partially explained by his genuine shock at what was a totally unexpected turn of events. Crucially, he may also have concluded that the present military situation leaves him with little choice.

Ukraine’s ongoing invasion has exposed the Russian military as dangerously overstretched. With his army fully committed and advancing at great cost in eastern Ukraine, Putin has no significant reserves to call upon and is deeply reluctant to withdraw his best units in order to protect Kursk Oblast. Instead, he is attempting to plug the gap with a ragtag collection of conscripts scraped together from across the Russian Federation. Faced with a choice between conquering Ukraine or defending Russia, it is becoming increasingly obvious that Putin cannot do both.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...utin-is-downplaying-ukraines-kursk-offensive/

 

[ChloeTzang]

In Feb'22 the orcs thought Kyiv was going to greet their troops with flowers. instead of flowers they were greeted with Javelins. in Aug'24, Russians are preparing their flowers for greeting the ZSU in Kursk, temporarily occupied by Russia. Funny how things turn.

The inscription at the bottom of the entrance stele of Kursk city: "We are waiting for the AFU."

 

[Rightguide]

Well Biden has finally gotten us there:

Russia's Medvedev: There Will Be No Talks With Ukraine After Kursk Incursion​

Wednesday, 21 August 2024 06:51 AM EDT

Ukraine's incursion into Russia's Kursk region means there will be no talks between Moscow and Kyiv until Ukraine is completely defeated on the battlefield, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia's Security Council, said Wednesday.

"The casual chit-chat of self-proclaimed intermediaries on the virtuous subject of peace has ceased. Even if they cannot say it out loud, everyone recognizes the reality of the situation," Medvedev wrote on his official account on the Telegram messaging app.

"They understand that there will be NO NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL THE ENEMY IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DESTROYED!"

Medvedev, who has styled himself as one of the Kremlin's toughest anti-Western hawks, said that the "premature and unnecessary peace" talks that had previously been suggested "had vague prospects and no tangible outcomes."

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/russia-war-ukraine/2024/08/21/id/1177299/

That is who comes next after Putin.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Wow, what a beautiful explosion....it's still burning away.....and everytime a tank explodes and starts burning, it starts the timer for the next one

https://twitter.com/x/status/1826547143957528816

 

[ChloeTzang]

I do enjoy watching this. There's tanks of kerosene there too....big big tanks. Kerosene has a low ignition temperature and it doesn’t take much heat for the kerosene vapors to reach a point where they will readily ignite in the presence of a spark or flame. And as you can see....lots of sparks and flames. We should see some real fireballs tomorrow as the kerosene tanks go up, those will be awesomely epic! Kerosene exploding makes burning oil look like a candle. LOL. This is better than the 4th of July LOL. Those firefighters better get way and the heck further back if they don't want to be crispy critters.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1826692544610386426

 

[ll74]

Well Biden has finally gotten us there:

Russia's Medvedev: There Will Be No Talks With Ukraine After Kursk Incursion​

Wednesday, 21 August 2024 06:51 AM EDT

Ukraine's incursion into Russia's Kursk region means there will be no talks between Moscow and Kyiv until Ukraine is completely defeated on the battlefield, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia's Security Council, said Wednesday.

"The casual chit-chat of self-proclaimed intermediaries on the virtuous subject of peace has ceased. Even if they cannot say it out loud, everyone recognizes the reality of the situation," Medvedev wrote on his official account on the Telegram messaging app.

"They understand that there will be NO NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL THE ENEMY IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DESTROYED!"

Medvedev, who has styled himself as one of the Kremlin's toughest anti-Western hawks, said that the "premature and unnecessary peace" talks that had previously been suggested "had vague prospects and no tangible outcomes."

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/russia-war-ukraine/2024/08/21/id/1177299/

That is who comes next after Putin.

Lol.....Russians are throwing a hissy fit

Their "red lines" have been nothing but a facade.

 

[ChloeTzang]

“Oktyabrsky airfield is fucking fucked as fuck!” Give that man a job writing headlines for The New York Post. I could listen to this for hours. Beautiful. And so articulate and expressive. LOL.

10/10 Dostoevsky moment with a Russian guy witnessing the Marinovka air base following a Ukrainian drone assault.

“There it is flying by, fuck. Fucking flying over again, fuck. It’s all fucking fucked up! Everything. It’s fucked as fuck. They’re fucking bombing it since 2.30 am, and they still are fucking it now. It’s a serious tragedy, folks. This is serious stuff. It’s all fucking on fire. And it’s fucking smoke. It’s all fucking exploding. That’s it. The Oktyabrsky airfield is fucking fucked as fuck. That’s really something else. And all the new hangars, it’s all blown up in the air, fuck.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1826554097262068182

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[MajorRewrite]

For those who might be wondering why we might be wondering when they might be wondering who she might be wondering which he might be wondering whether we might be wondering what we might be wondering.

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

Lol.....Russians are throwing a hissy fit

Their "red lines" have been nothing but a facade.

The urkainians are what now, 40Km into russia looking for a red line and haven't found it lol

 

[ChloeTzang]

The urkainians are what now, 40Km into russia looking for a red line and haven't found it lol

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[Lazaran]

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Does Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang know what incremental ratcheting up of military actions involves - and the reasons for it when confronting / engaging with a nuclear armed Russia???



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang



Side note:

Trump and MAGAt "republicans” SABOTAGED military aid to Ukraine for SIX MONTHS, which deprived and demoralized the Ukrainians, and benefited and reinvigorated the Russians. (See: The Russian gains along the eastern front in Ukraine.)

 

[ChloeTzang]

And the forecast in Kursk Oblast is....

 

[ChloeTzang]

Trump and MAGAt "republicans” SABOTAGED military aid to Ukraine for SIX MONTHS, which deprived and demoralized the Ukrainians, and benefited and reinvigorated the Russians. (See: The Russian gains along the eastern front in Ukraine.)

Snorting to much pixie dust their, Laz. You're only fooling yourself if that's what you think.

As for Funding going to Ukraine? My ass. The Biden Administration has about 16 billion left to use on Ukraine (most of the 61 billion eventually passed was NOT for Ukraine!!!)
11 billion from the 61 billion was actually FOR Ukraine.
4 billion has been held over from 2023 because it WASN'T SPENT - so, you know, that whole artillery shortage thing? That was Biden. 'Ol Blood-on-his-hands Biden killed thousands of Ukrainians over a US domestic political issue when he had literally billions sitting there unused. Defend that if you want, it just says a lot about you all by itself.
2 billion "found"

The Biden Administration has actually spent about 1 billion in the last few months...
in August they spent 125 million.....

IF the Biden Administration keeps on track with current declining aid packages the current aid will last.....about 10 years (128 months) !!!

 

[Lazaran]

Snorting to much pixie dust their, Laz. You're only fooling yourself if that's what you think.

As for Funding going to Ukraine? My ass. The Biden Administration has about 16 billion left to use on Ukraine (most of the 61 billion eventually passed was NOT for Ukraine!!!)
11 billion from the 61 billion was actually FOR Ukraine.
4 billion has been held over from 2023 because it WASN'T SPENT - so, you know, that whole artillery shortage thing? That was Biden. 'Ol Blood-on-his-hands Biden killed thousands of Ukrainians over a US domestic political issue when he had literally billions sitting there unused. Defend that if you want, it just says a lot about you all by itself.
2 billion "found"

The Biden Administration has actually spent about 1 billion in the last few months...
in August they spent 125 million.....

IF the Biden Administration keeps on track with current declining aid packages the current aid will last.....about 10 years (128 months) !!!

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang continues FAILING to comprehend what is going on inside and outside of Ukraine.

See also: Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang FAILING to comprehend the Russian’s prioritization of their offensives in Ukraine, and the need for the Ukrainians to put the Kursk NPP under legitimate threat.

Related:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...sk-nuclear-power-plant-with-drone-2024-08-23/



Hope that ^ helps.



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[ChloeTzang]

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang continues FAILING to comprehend what is going on inside and outside of Ukraine.

See also: Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang FAILING to comprehend the Russian’s prioritization of their offensives in Ukraine, and the need for the Ukrainians to put the Kursk NPP under legitimate threat.

Related:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...sk-nuclear-power-plant-with-drone-2024-08-23/

Nukes shmukes. That one's a bit flat. If Putin tries to go nuke he'll eat a 9mm lead pill fast enough. The oligarchs like their creature comforts and they don't want to glow in the dark.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Speaking of glowing in the dark....it seems the big oil deport fire set the grass on fire, it spread and has now reached the nearby city...the whole neighborhood is on fire.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1827061699486105965

 

[ChloeTzang]

Another big move in 155mm artillery shell self-sufficiency. Not just Rheinmetall and a couple of US manufacturers but now Nammo, all setting up ammunition production factories or joint ventures in Ukraine. This is not an insignificant boost, altho it'll take a while to come online.

Ukraine will establish the production of 155mm shells using technology from Nammo, a Norwegian company that is one of the largest ammunition manufacturers in Europe. The Norwegian government has announced that this decision has paved the way for transferring Norwegian defense technology to Ukraine. Nammo has signed an agreement with the Norwegian Defense Materiel Agency to increase the production of artillery shells and missiles significantly. According to the plan, shell manufacturing could be boosted tenfold, and the output of other shells and other equipment could be doubled. The production of 120mm tank ammunition will also be increased.


https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/08...shells-using-norwegian-military-technologies/

 

[Lazaran]

Nukes shmukes. That one's a bit flat. If Putin tries to go nuke he'll eat a 9mm lead pill fast enough. The oligarchs like their creature comforts and they don't want to glow in the dark.

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang completely misses the point about the UKRANIANS actively threatening the Kursk NPP, which seems to have grabbed Putin’s attention.



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[Lazaran]

Another big move in 155mm artillery shell self-sufficiency. Not just Rheinmetall and a couple of US manufacturers but now Nammo, all setting up ammunition production factories or joint ventures in Ukraine. This is not an insignificant boost, altho it'll take a while to come online.

Ukraine will establish the production of 155mm shells using technology from Nammo, a Norwegian company that is one of the largest ammunition manufacturers in Europe. The Norwegian government has announced that this decision has paved the way for transferring Norwegian defense technology to Ukraine. Nammo has signed an agreement with the Norwegian Defense Materiel Agency to increase the production of artillery shells and missiles significantly. According to the plan, shell manufacturing could be boosted tenfold, and the output of other shells and other equipment could be doubled. The production of 120mm tank ammunition will also be increased.

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https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/08...shells-using-norwegian-military-technologies/

Now Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang is starting to get it…

Standing up Ukraine to be more self-sufficient with their military needs is logistically smart, cost effective, and sets up Ukraine for economic success on “the day after” the war and full liberation of all Ukrainian territory.

Thanks President Joe Biden and Vice President (and future President) Kamala Harris!!!



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[ChloeTzang]

No Thanks to "President" Joe Biden and Vice President (and future Presidential-candidacy- loser) Comrade Kamala

Corrected for you. Neither of them have done a thing to help Ukraine. Biden's a puppet, his Administration gave the green light to this war, just as Obama did to Russia seizing Crimea, and the Biden Administration has come off as weak, ineffectual. and deliberbately slow-walking aid from start to finish. Sorry Laz. Ukraine is winning DESPITE the Biden Administration.

 

[Lazaran]

Corrected for you. Neither of them have done a thing to help Ukraine. Biden's a puppet, his Administration gave the green light to this war, just as Obama did to Russia seizing Crimea, and the Biden Administration has come off as weak, ineffectual. and deliberbately slow-walking aid from start to finish. Sorry Laz. Ukraine is winning DESPITE the Biden Administration.

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang has literally been corrected (schooled, actually) in this thread: The evidence is in the body of the thread; the submitted articles, and the historical reality of the chain of events before, during, and after the unjustified Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The space time continuum is undefeated.



Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang

 

[ChloeTzang]

Another nail in the coffin for the Russian occupation of Crimea

The Conro Trader was the last of three vessels that ferry large quantities of fuel across the Kerch Strait. On 22 August, the Conro Trader, a Russian Roll On Roll Off (RORO) vessel with a reported 30 fuel tank cars aboard, erupted in a ball of flames at the Port of Kavkaz. The Ukrainian Navy on Friday took credit for that attack, which was suspected to have been carried out by a converted Neptune missile.

“We can confirm the information that this target was destroyed by the [Ukrainian] Navy,” spokesman Captain Dmytro Pletenchuk said Friday, according to Ukrainian Pravda. “This ferry is one of the most important chains of Russian military logistics for supplying the occupation forces, primarily with fuel and lubricants, but it also transported weapons, of course. Therefore, this is a legitimate target. And, accordingly, this should reduce the potential of our enemy’s capabilities in those locations where they are actively engaged in hostilities.”

“The ferry sank, Plentenchuck added. “The work of this part of the port is blocked. They still have one more platform to load wagons onto the ferry. But there are no ferries. This is the problem. No wonder the locals in the occupied Ukrainian Crimea immediately reacted with mass visits to petrol stations.”

The Conro Trader “sank after an attack on August 22 in the port of Kavkaz, paralyzing the work of the Kerch ferry crossing for an indefinite period,” the Crimean Wind Telegram channel stated. “Fuel is not being delivered to Crimea via the Kerch Bridge by rail, as the structures are weakened after the explosion on the bridge and the burning freight train. There are also concerns that the train carrying fuel could be hit by a missile. Therefore, our advice, Crimeans, remains the same: stock up on fuel. Or switch to electric transport.”

So no more bulk fuel shipments into Crimea. What a shame.

https://www.twz.com/news-features/f...roops-crimea-strangled-by-destruction-of-ship

 

[ChloeTzang]

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang has literally been corrected (schooled, actually) in this thread: The evidence is in the body of the thread; the submitted articles, and the historical reality of the chain of events before, during, and after the unjustified Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The space time continuum is undefeated.

Keep trying, Laz. I enjoy the early morning laughter. LOL.

But alas, I am afraid we shall continue to differ on this. Altho we do agree 100% on the "unjustified Russian invasion of Ukraine" so we have some common ground here.