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Those in the Democrat party and the Deep State hive who were making money on the war in Ukraine care deeply.Almost all of us care.
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Those in the Democrat party and the Deep State hive who were making money on the war in Ukraine care deeply.Almost all of us care.
What if it's more?What if it's less?
What if it's less?What if it's more?
No, America, most Americans have had "to" their back teeth with endless war and death ......let alone the stolen taxes used to kill people we don't even know.......fuck it.....Almost all of us care.
Maybe "most americans" in your mind. Still the majority support Ukraine and supporting the war effort there.No, America, most Americans have had "to" their back teeth with endless war and death ......let alone the stolen taxes used to kill people we don't even know.......fuck it.....
No, America, most Americans have had "to" their back teeth with endless war and death ......let alone the stolen taxes used to kill people we don't even know.......fuck it.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw4q7v7ez1oWell. that's the risk associated with signing agreements, treaties and guarantee's of the borders of other countries in return for their nukes.
Ukraine entirely fulfilled its agreements in 1996: all nuclear warheads were transferred to Russia for destruction, and classified strategic bases were converted to non-military use. The guarantors, on the other hand, did not fulfill their obligations.
Personally, I'd say at this point, if Trump wants to walk away from Ukraine, fine. Cut US funding, fine. We renege on that guarantee of borders. Fine. Our signature on any existing or agreement is now worthless without hard collateral. Agreed. Now, let's refund Ukraine the replacement cost of the nukes, cruises missiles, aircraft and nuclear infrastructure we persuaded them to give up in return for that now worthless signature that USA refuses now to honor.
Ukraine also scrapped 60 Tu-22M2 and Tu-22M3 nuclear-capable bombers
eight Tu-160s, three Tu-95MS's
423 Kh-22 cruise missiles
575 Kh-55MS nuclear cruise missiles
So around 1200 missiles which we will abitrarily assign the replacement cost of a Tomahawk - $2.5 million
THat's three billion/
Aircraft - let's say $85 million each for a total of 70
Another six billion
2500 launchers
I dunno. Based on a Patriot system, maybe 100 million per launcher. We're talking replacement costs here after all
Another 250 billion
1300 nukes
More recent developments, like the B61-13 warhead, are projected to cost around $92 million
So lets say 100 million per nuke
Another 130 billion
Total of say 400,000,000,000
USA was instrumental in this deal, so lets say half, and the other half we can take from confiscated Russian assets in the USA and hand over
So US hands over $200 billion to Ukraine in cash, weapons or ammo + the same from confiscated Russian assets and is done.
Of course, no agreement the USA signs will ever be worth anything again, but whatever. It's the Art of the Deal.
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Jan 23rd.........we're a long way from that date now Trump cocksucker...
Then let Ukraine go at it, leave the us/US out of it.... we as the vast amount of Americans want nothing to do with the war in Ukraine and or Europe.... fuck'em.......we don't care...... not our monkey, not our circus..... none of the Ukrainian government is welcome in my country stay out, don't care how "hard nosed" the new guy is , don't come begging for my resources .... the world has raped the American people far too long.... NO, means NO........This is former general Valerii Zaluzhnyi...he was fired by president Zelenskyy, and is not a real fan of him right now....
BUT he is the front runner to be elected President in the next Ukrainian election, whether againsy Zelensky OR Poroshenko....his reply to trump about having elections???"
I am behind Zelensky, and we will talk about elections at a later date". Trump does not fucking get it. Ukraine is united behind Zelensky, and Zaluzhnyi is more hard-nosed than Zelensky.
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No, that's the risk of giving up your weapons, the ukies gave their ability to defend themselves....just the same as the anti gun nazis wanting to take our guns from the citizens of AmericaWell. that's the risk associated with signing agreements, treaties and guarantee's of the borders of other countries in return for their nukes.
Ukraine entirely fulfilled its agreements in 1996: all nuclear warheads were transferred to Russia for destruction, and classified strategic bases were converted to non-military use. The guarantors, on the other hand, did not fulfill their obligations.
Personally, I'd say at this point, if Trump wants to walk away from Ukraine, fine. Cut US funding, fine. We renege on that guarantee of borders. Fine. Our signature on any existing or agreement is now worthless without hard collateral. Agreed. Now, let's refund Ukraine the replacement cost of the nukes, cruises missiles, aircraft and nuclear infrastructure we persuaded them to give up in return for that now worthless signature that USA refuses now to honor.
Ukraine also scrapped 60 Tu-22M2 and Tu-22M3 nuclear-capable bombers
eight Tu-160s, three Tu-95MS's
423 Kh-22 cruise missiles
575 Kh-55MS nuclear cruise missiles
So around 1200 missiles which we will abitrarily assign the replacement cost of a Tomahawk - $2.5 million
THat's three billion/
Aircraft - let's say $85 million each for a total of 70
Another six billion
2500 launchers
I dunno. Based on a Patriot system, maybe 100 million per launcher. We're talking replacement costs here after all
Another 250 billion
1300 nukes
More recent developments, like the B61-13 warhead, are projected to cost around $92 million
So lets say 100 million per nuke
Another 130 billion
Total of say 400,000,000,000
USA was instrumental in this deal, so lets say half, and the other half we can take from confiscated Russian assets in the USA and hand over
So US hands over $200 billion to Ukraine in cash, weapons or ammo + the same from confiscated Russian assets and is done.
Of course, no agreement the USA signs will ever be worth anything again, but whatever. It's the Art of the Deal.
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There are very important lessons to learned...... never ever, ever give up your guns, ever no matter what anyone promises.
Then let Ukraine go at it, leave the us/US out of it.... we as the vast amount of Americans want nothing to do with the war in Ukraine and or Europe.... fuck'em.......we don't care...... not our monkey, not our circus..... none of the Ukrainian government is welcome in my country stay out, don't care how "hard nosed" the new guy is , don't come begging for my resources .... the world has raped the American people far too long.... NO, means NO........
Especially after that turd napoleon threatened my country with pain... what the fuck.. is his dark secret soldiers gonna sabotage/terrorist attack because we said no.... yupper Ukraine is our friend..... fuck me to tears....
Chloe...... after reading the list of military equipment the ukies gave up.... it took awhile to soak in (now hear me out) by all intent Ukraine had the most powerful military on the European land mass outside of Russia and by all intents and purpose could have walked and conquered all of western Europe Neary unopposed... as demonstrated by their resistance to Russia.... that being said......The thing there is, USA already signed up when we signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. We signed, and in signing, we pledged our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor (to coin a phrase LOL). That horse flew a 30 years ago. Now admittedly, the Biden Administration fucked up support and handicapped Ukraine, but they DID provide a modicum of support. Trump is NOT supporting Ukraine, and in fact is actively assisting Putin and trying to force a Russian victory.
And no-one is "begging" for your resources. All that's needed is for the US to sell the weapons Ukraine needs to Ukraine.
Threaten? It was a warning. They way Churchill warned Nevill Chamberlain after Munich.
Chloe...... after reading the list of military equipment the ukies gave up.... it took awhile to soak in (now hear me out) by all intent Ukraine had the most powerful military on the European land mass outside of Russia and by all intents and purpose could have walked and conquered all of western Europe Neary unopposed... as demonstrated by their resistance to Russia.... that being said......
What if, what if....between the democrats and the leaders of western Europe they engineered a plot/plan to disarm Ukraine's (very capable military) then goad the Russians into invading Ukraine over the placement of American ballistic missiles systems on the Ukrainian /Russian border? Think about this.....
The benefits are numerous one they use Russia to destroy the Ukraine as you know it plunging the ukies into slavery for the next 100 years, weakening the Russians to be ripe for invasion and break-up of the Russian federation into 40 smaller manageable "states" all the while stealing money and making money hand over fist selling the government military equipment......
Just say'in.....think about it.......
Actually the majority of american's support the war in Ukraine.Then let Ukraine go at it, leave the us/US out of it.... we as the vast amount of Americans want nothing to do with the war in Ukraine and or Europe....
Welp, (in your own words) there are very gullible people in the United States.... when their taxes continue to rise because of the "war effort" and doing without and rationing then burying their children's body parts we'll seen how their attitudes change... supporting the Ukrainian war is a very good "tell" in how well the" brainwashing" of the useless eaters are ...Actually the majority of american's support the war in Ukraine.
I'm not sure if you're smart enough to disseminate this poll, but it gives a great breakdown of who supports what in regards to Ukraine.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...ain-in-americans-views-of-the-war-in-ukraine/