For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

Putin unleashes Iskander-M missile attack to 'sink container ship in Odesa carrying cargo of British weapons for Ukraine'​

By TOM MIDLANE

Published: 05:57 EST, 2 March 2025 | Updated: 11:02 EST, 2 March 2025



Vladimir Putin unleashed a missile strike to 'sink' a cargo ship amid unconfirmed Russian claims it was carrying British weapons for use by Ukraine.

Two Iskander-M ballistic missiles hit the Panama-flagged container ship MSC LEVANTE F - reportedly Swiss-owned - soon after it arrived in Odesa on March 1, after making a stop in Turkey.

Two port workers were believed to have been wounded in the strike, which also damaged infrastructure, Ukrainian reports said.

The report of the attack comes as British prime minister Sir Keir Starmer today hosts Volodymyr Zelensky and other European leaders to discuss the future of the wartorn nation following the Ukrainian president's televised spat with US president Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...k-container-ship-British-weapons-Ukraine.html
 
For Putin, apparently the USA was easier to defeat than Ukraine. Слава Украине

1741086092740.png
 
Ukraine's 2025 Campaign: Early Counterattacks - At Home And Abroad
Andrew Tanner. March 4th

Ukrainian offensive efforts are growing more numerous, contradicting media narratives about Ukraine's supposed exhaustion. A new battlefield rhythm is emerging; Ukraine is winning the adaptation race.

It is still very early days, but over the past few weeks Ukrainian forces have, on several fronts, made a clear shift from area to active defense. The distinction may seem technical, but represents a major change in Ukraine’s posture as it continues to fight for everyone’s freedom from russian fascism. In area defense, the priority is minimizing friendly costs while maximizing the enemy’s. Territory only matters insofar as a chunk of dirt helps advance that core mission. Interestingly, the rather epic Oval Office blowup you may have heard something about this past week was also part of the process. Active defense often looks similar to area defense, but intentionally incorporates sustained counterattacks that go beyond reclaiming positions in the grey zone. Over several days the defender will attempt to push the enemy back in a target sector before - usually - reverting to an Area defense scheme as hostile reinforcements arrive.

The best moment to make the switch is when an enemy advance has begun to falter for lack of resources along the front. Done right, the change can destabilize the enemy to such a degree that the initial limited effort evolves into a bigger, operational-level event. I can’t forecast anything major happening just yet, as the approach of spring makes movements of more than 3-5km tough to sustain. But the choice to take the risk of higher casualties that this kind of operation entails suggests that Ukraine has big plans for 2025 - including a sustained series of major counteroffensives, resources permitting. Of course, a slowing or halt to American aid could threaten this.

Ukraine has shifted modes on several fronts, launching aggressive counterattacks that go beyond seizing a few positions after an orc push is smashed. In multiple locales, but especially the Pokrovsk and Toretsk fronts, Ukrainian forces are punching back far more aggressively than was typical over winter. The reason? Moscow’s forces are visibly tired across the board. The depth and intensity of attacks continues to decline, and the latest orc attempts to creep around the flanks of a large Ukrainian grouping - Kupiansk, Pokrovsk, Southern Donbas - have by and large failed. Slowly pushing forward one tree line at a time, even if this does force Ukraine to withdraw bit by bit, is not a recipe for victory. Putin is relying on Trump throwing him a lifeline by freezing the conflict somehow. But Ukraine appears to have conserved enough resources to prevent this and even claw back ground.

With the proper support from European and Pacific leaders, Ukraine stands a very real chance of launching a serious, sustained counteroffensive effort in 2025. If it happens, the strike will come at a moment of extreme ruscist vulnerability, Putin’s ground war stuttering for lack of trained troops and quality gear while Ukraine’s drone fight escalates, from the front line to 2,000km or more behind. At the same time, the ruscist economy is racing towards a precipice: these converging trends are leading Moscow to catastrophe. The door is open to a radical shift in the balance of power in Europe and the globe. As Trump and Vance inherit the vain effort by Biden and Harris to hold back the tide by preventing Ukraine from destroying Putin’s regime once and for all, reality is starting to bite.

There’s no going back, and Victory in Ukraine is the key to our common future.


Where the Biden Administration played a more subtle game, leaking information to the Russians, stalling and prevaricating on military assistance, and not permitting Ukraine to undertake offensive actions that would have given them some early victories, all in vain attempts to bring Putin an "off ramp" that he was never interested in, we can now see that Ukraine is, despite that, on the verge of turning the war around and inflicting major damage on Putin and recaptured chunks of the occupied territories, actions which would in all probability lead to the collapse of the Empire and Putin's death.

As a result, we can see Trump and Vance actively assisting Putin, cutting off military aid to Ukraine, attempting to force a Russian victory on Ukraine, pushing for the outsing of a popular elected President because he doesn't kiss their ass, in what will hopefully be a vain attempt to prevent the Collapse of the Russian Empire - you can come up with your own reasons for this - Trump is a Russian Agent, the global elites have to much wealth to be made from Russia and their ties with the Putin regime, or just plain stupidity and ego. I don't think it's the last - or it may be a combination of the last and the first, or all three, but for whatever reason, Trump is actively seeking to break down the alliances that have kept the world stable for the last seventy years. Obama was bad, Biden was weak, but they maintained the status quo.

With his now active moves against Ukraine, Trump has turned into a traitor, not just to the USA but to the entire western world.

At this point, with European backing, I guess Ukraine will need to continue on without US aid, which, fortunately, is not quite as crucial as it was. Europe really does need to get their ass moving though, and I suspect they now realize this.
 
No, America, most Americans have had "to" their back teeth with endless war and death ......let alone the stolen taxes used to kill people we don't even know.......fuck it.....

Well. that's the risk associated with signing agreements, treaties and guarantee's of the borders of other countries in return for their nukes.

Ukraine entirely fulfilled its agreements in 1996: all nuclear warheads were transferred to Russia for destruction, and classified strategic bases were converted to non-military use. The guarantors, on the other hand, did not fulfill their obligations.

Personally, I'd say at this point, if Trump wants to walk away from Ukraine, fine. Cut US funding, fine. We renege on that guarantee of borders. Fine. Our signature on any existing or agreement is now worthless without hard collateral. Agreed. Now, let's refund Ukraine the replacement cost of the nukes, cruises missiles, aircraft and nuclear infrastructure we persuaded them to give up in return for that now worthless signature that USA refuses now to honor.

Ukraine also scrapped 60 Tu-22M2 and Tu-22M3 nuclear-capable bombers
eight Tu-160s, three Tu-95MS's
423 Kh-22 cruise missiles
575 Kh-55MS nuclear cruise missiles

So around 1200 missiles which we will abitrarily assign the replacement cost of a Tomahawk - $2.5 million
THat's three billion/

Aircraft - let's say $85 million each for a total of 70
Another six billion

2500 launchers
I dunno. Based on a Patriot system, maybe 100 million per launcher. We're talking replacement costs here after all
Another 250 billion

1300 nukes
More recent developments, like the B61-13 warhead, are projected to cost around $92 million
So lets say 100 million per nuke
Another 130 billion

Total of say 400,000,000,000
USA was instrumental in this deal, so lets say half, and the other half we can take from confiscated Russian assets in the USA and hand over

So US hands over $200 billion to Ukraine in cash, weapons or ammo + the same from confiscated Russian assets and is done.

Of course, no agreement the USA signs will ever be worth anything again, but whatever. It's the Art of the Deal.

1741092255616.png
 
Well. that's the risk associated with signing agreements, treaties and guarantee's of the borders of other countries in return for their nukes.

Ukraine entirely fulfilled its agreements in 1996: all nuclear warheads were transferred to Russia for destruction, and classified strategic bases were converted to non-military use. The guarantors, on the other hand, did not fulfill their obligations.

Personally, I'd say at this point, if Trump wants to walk away from Ukraine, fine. Cut US funding, fine. We renege on that guarantee of borders. Fine. Our signature on any existing or agreement is now worthless without hard collateral. Agreed. Now, let's refund Ukraine the replacement cost of the nukes, cruises missiles, aircraft and nuclear infrastructure we persuaded them to give up in return for that now worthless signature that USA refuses now to honor.

Ukraine also scrapped 60 Tu-22M2 and Tu-22M3 nuclear-capable bombers
eight Tu-160s, three Tu-95MS's
423 Kh-22 cruise missiles
575 Kh-55MS nuclear cruise missiles

So around 1200 missiles which we will abitrarily assign the replacement cost of a Tomahawk - $2.5 million
THat's three billion/

Aircraft - let's say $85 million each for a total of 70
Another six billion

2500 launchers
I dunno. Based on a Patriot system, maybe 100 million per launcher. We're talking replacement costs here after all
Another 250 billion

1300 nukes
More recent developments, like the B61-13 warhead, are projected to cost around $92 million
So lets say 100 million per nuke
Another 130 billion

Total of say 400,000,000,000
USA was instrumental in this deal, so lets say half, and the other half we can take from confiscated Russian assets in the USA and hand over

So US hands over $200 billion to Ukraine in cash, weapons or ammo + the same from confiscated Russian assets and is done.

Of course, no agreement the USA signs will ever be worth anything again, but whatever. It's the Art of the Deal.

View attachment 2506263
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw4q7v7ez1o

Trump tells Putin to end 'ridiculous war' in Ukraine or face new sanctions​

23 January 2025

I think working the peace negotiations is worth a try. If Putin accelerates while trying to negotiate peace I don't believe Trump will take kindly to Putin slapping him in the face. Trump will sanction the crap out of Russia. Putin's economy WILL crash and burn and Putin knows it. There are other events happening behind the scenes, one policy is to give Europeans an alternative energy supply from the US cutting deep into Putin's revenue supply. NATO nations needs to get on the same page and present one face to Putin. Putin will be forced to rethink his position on the world stage. If Putin looses Trump's support Putin stands to lose his federation. Putin will have nothing to support his war effort. IMHO Trump has only been in office a month and a half. Right now Putin is winning the propaganda war AND IS MAKING FOOLS OUT OF THE WEST.. Europe, the EU and Baltics states need to STFU and get on board. The appearance of western unity will have an effect on how Putin moves forward.
IMHO
 
Last edited:
This is former general Valerii Zaluzhnyi...he was fired by president Zelenskyy, and is not a real fan of him right now....

BUT he is the front runner to be elected President in the next Ukrainian election, whether againsy Zelensky OR Poroshenko....his reply to trump about having elections???"

I am behind Zelensky, and we will talk about elections at a later date". Trump does not fucking get it. Ukraine is united behind Zelensky, and Zaluzhnyi is more hard-nosed than Zelensky.

1741107135541.png
 
One for the books - LePen supporting continued aid for Ukraine. When even Le Pen says "maybe chill a bit", you know it's utter madness.

1741108080624.png
 
This is former general Valerii Zaluzhnyi...he was fired by president Zelenskyy, and is not a real fan of him right now....

BUT he is the front runner to be elected President in the next Ukrainian election, whether againsy Zelensky OR Poroshenko....his reply to trump about having elections???"

I am behind Zelensky, and we will talk about elections at a later date". Trump does not fucking get it. Ukraine is united behind Zelensky, and Zaluzhnyi is more hard-nosed than Zelensky.

View attachment 2506399
Then let Ukraine go at it, leave the us/US out of it.... we as the vast amount of Americans want nothing to do with the war in Ukraine and or Europe.... fuck'em.......we don't care...... not our monkey, not our circus..... none of the Ukrainian government is welcome in my country stay out, don't care how "hard nosed" the new guy is , don't come begging for my resources .... the world has raped the American people far too long.... NO, means NO........
Especially after that turd napoleon threatened my country with pain... what the fuck.. is his dark secret soldiers gonna sabotage/terrorist attack because we said no.... yupper Ukraine is our friend..... fuck me to tears....
 
Well. that's the risk associated with signing agreements, treaties and guarantee's of the borders of other countries in return for their nukes.

Ukraine entirely fulfilled its agreements in 1996: all nuclear warheads were transferred to Russia for destruction, and classified strategic bases were converted to non-military use. The guarantors, on the other hand, did not fulfill their obligations.

Personally, I'd say at this point, if Trump wants to walk away from Ukraine, fine. Cut US funding, fine. We renege on that guarantee of borders. Fine. Our signature on any existing or agreement is now worthless without hard collateral. Agreed. Now, let's refund Ukraine the replacement cost of the nukes, cruises missiles, aircraft and nuclear infrastructure we persuaded them to give up in return for that now worthless signature that USA refuses now to honor.

Ukraine also scrapped 60 Tu-22M2 and Tu-22M3 nuclear-capable bombers
eight Tu-160s, three Tu-95MS's
423 Kh-22 cruise missiles
575 Kh-55MS nuclear cruise missiles

So around 1200 missiles which we will abitrarily assign the replacement cost of a Tomahawk - $2.5 million
THat's three billion/

Aircraft - let's say $85 million each for a total of 70
Another six billion

2500 launchers
I dunno. Based on a Patriot system, maybe 100 million per launcher. We're talking replacement costs here after all
Another 250 billion

1300 nukes
More recent developments, like the B61-13 warhead, are projected to cost around $92 million
So lets say 100 million per nuke
Another 130 billion

Total of say 400,000,000,000
USA was instrumental in this deal, so lets say half, and the other half we can take from confiscated Russian assets in the USA and hand over

So US hands over $200 billion to Ukraine in cash, weapons or ammo + the same from confiscated Russian assets and is done.

Of course, no agreement the USA signs will ever be worth anything again, but whatever. It's the Art of the Deal.

View attachment 2506263
No, that's the risk of giving up your weapons, the ukies gave their ability to defend themselves....just the same as the anti gun nazis wanting to take our guns from the citizens of America
Same as the German nazis disarming the jews..
There are very important lessons to learned...... never ever, ever give up your guns, ever no matter what anyone promises. In the end they will March you to a trench/ mass grave and murder you....
This is a very hard lesson that the ukies have learned but they didn't have to give up their weapons, they are responsible for this .... in the end it was the ukies that allowed themselves to be unarmed.....
Never ever, give up your gun ever.... this lesson is on an international level......ask an entire generation of Ukrainian people......
 
There are very important lessons to learned...... never ever, ever give up your guns, ever no matter what anyone promises.

Your fear consumes you.

I find that humorous. :D

(Psst - your line is, "I'm not afraid." And...go!)
 
Then let Ukraine go at it, leave the us/US out of it.... we as the vast amount of Americans want nothing to do with the war in Ukraine and or Europe.... fuck'em.......we don't care...... not our monkey, not our circus..... none of the Ukrainian government is welcome in my country stay out, don't care how "hard nosed" the new guy is , don't come begging for my resources .... the world has raped the American people far too long.... NO, means NO........

The thing there is, USA already signed up when we signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. We signed, and in signing, we pledged our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor (to coin a phrase LOL). That horse flew a 30 years ago. Now admittedly, the Biden Administration fucked up support and handicapped Ukraine, but they DID provide a modicum of support. Trump is NOT supporting Ukraine, and in fact is actively assisting Putin and trying to force a Russian victory.

And no-one is "begging" for your resources. All that's needed is for the US to sell the weapons Ukraine needs to Ukraine.

Especially after that turd napoleon threatened my country with pain... what the fuck.. is his dark secret soldiers gonna sabotage/terrorist attack because we said no.... yupper Ukraine is our friend..... fuck me to tears....

Threaten? It was a warning. They way Churchill warned Nevill Chamberlain after Munich.
 
Speaking of Ukrainian drones....and robots.... In 1,000 days of Russia’s invasion, Ukraine has become the world leader in military robotics. From drone strikes to automated tanks, this is the future of warfare. While Russia is sending donkeys to restock troops, Ukraine is sending robots to fight the war

 
The thing there is, USA already signed up when we signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. We signed, and in signing, we pledged our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor (to coin a phrase LOL). That horse flew a 30 years ago. Now admittedly, the Biden Administration fucked up support and handicapped Ukraine, but they DID provide a modicum of support. Trump is NOT supporting Ukraine, and in fact is actively assisting Putin and trying to force a Russian victory.

And no-one is "begging" for your resources. All that's needed is for the US to sell the weapons Ukraine needs to Ukraine.



Threaten? It was a warning. They way Churchill warned Nevill Chamberlain after Munich.
Chloe...... after reading the list of military equipment the ukies gave up.... it took awhile to soak in (now hear me out) by all intent Ukraine had the most powerful military on the European land mass outside of Russia and by all intents and purpose could have walked and conquered all of western Europe Neary unopposed... as demonstrated by their resistance to Russia.... that being said......
What if, what if....between the democrats and the leaders of western Europe they engineered a plot/plan to disarm Ukraine's (very capable military) then goad the Russians into invading Ukraine over the placement of American ballistic missiles systems on the Ukrainian /Russian border? Think about this.....
The benefits are numerous one they use Russia to destroy the Ukraine as you know it plunging the ukies into slavery for the next 100 years, weakening the Russians to be ripe for invasion and break-up of the Russian federation into 40 smaller manageable "states" all the while stealing money and making money hand over fist selling the government military equipment......
Just say'in.....think about it.......
 
Chloe...... after reading the list of military equipment the ukies gave up.... it took awhile to soak in (now hear me out) by all intent Ukraine had the most powerful military on the European land mass outside of Russia and by all intents and purpose could have walked and conquered all of western Europe Neary unopposed... as demonstrated by their resistance to Russia.... that being said......
What if, what if....between the democrats and the leaders of western Europe they engineered a plot/plan to disarm Ukraine's (very capable military) then goad the Russians into invading Ukraine over the placement of American ballistic missiles systems on the Ukrainian /Russian border? Think about this.....
The benefits are numerous one they use Russia to destroy the Ukraine as you know it plunging the ukies into slavery for the next 100 years, weakening the Russians to be ripe for invasion and break-up of the Russian federation into 40 smaller manageable "states" all the while stealing money and making money hand over fist selling the government military equipment......
Just say'in.....think about it.......

Now do the hypothetical (not really hypothetical) Russian plan / agenda post Ukrainian denuclearization…

😑

👉 Buffy 🤣

🇺🇸
 
Actually the majority of american's support the war in Ukraine.

I'm not sure if you're smart enough to disseminate this poll, but it gives a great breakdown of who supports what in regards to Ukraine.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...ain-in-americans-views-of-the-war-in-ukraine/
Welp, (in your own words) there are very gullible people in the United States.... when their taxes continue to rise because of the "war effort" and doing without and rationing then burying their children's body parts we'll seen how their attitudes change... supporting the Ukrainian war is a very good "tell" in how well the" brainwashing" of the useless eaters are ...😖
 
Back
Top