Fluke is a Fraud

[Dazzle1]

Stop feeling sorry for this Democratic operative.

this was a planed stunt that people are falling for.

Fluke decided to go to a Cathloc college she is working all the liberal media outlets so she can smear any conservative withoutr tough questions.

Fluke you are no victim you a piece of shit!

 

[busybody..]

$9: Price For a Month’s Supply of Birth Control Pills With No Health Insurance At Target 3 Miles From Georgetown Law…




Media whore extraordinaire Sandra Fluke was only off by roughly 900% when she claimed it would cost over $80 a month.


(CNSNews.com) – Although Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke testified to the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee last month that contraception can cost a law student $3,000 over three years and that some of her fellow students could not afford it, a Target store only 3 miles from the law school currently sells a month’s supply of birth control pills for only $9 to people who do not have insurance plans covering contraceptives.

That would make the total cost for birth control pills for a student who decided to use them for all three years of law school just $324.

Fluke was the sole witness who appeared on Feb. 23 before an all-Democratic panel chaired by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

 

[mercury14]

Fluke decided to go to a Cathloc college she is working all the liberal media outlets so she can smear any conservative withoutr tough questions.

I don't suppose you read her testimony...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I don't suppose you read her testimony...

Why don't you link to it so we can quote it and enjoy three or four days of you screaming LIAR!

I've studied at these places. One of them even threw a master's degree at me. Dr. Minerva's bioethics course was superb, though I found myself wishing it wasn't so focused on the Catholic perspective.

Her specialty is the area where secular and religious ethics collide. It's fascinating stuff and she's super passionate about her work. She was a bit hard to understand at times being Italian and speaking with an aglo/aussie twang. It was charming at first but as the weeks dragged on it just became hard to hear.

I call bullshit. She wasn't in Melbourne until last June.

Some posts. In Eyer threads. Are not. Serious.

Ugh.

I didn't really pick up my life and move to Australia to study philosophy if you must know.

(as if you could pay me to study philosophy anywhere).

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=800325

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

March 4, 2012
No Fluke at all
James V. Capua

Charles Murray would recognize the Sandra Fluke we all met at Nancy Pelosi's dog and pony show as the very model future denizen of the "archetypal upper-middle-class" enclave described in his recent Coming Apart. This alarm-clock owning, well put together, marriage and childbearing-deferring young woman seems well on track to permanent residence in Belmont, Murray's term for the places where the new elite tend to live. She exhibited the civilized, but self-assured and poised demeanor, down to that annoying slightly breathy dropping of the voice at the end of her sentences that marks a woman who has punched the proper baccalaureate and professional school tickets.

Like a true aspiring Belmonter she embraces civic involvement, which, in her case manifests itself in joining the struggle to foist some form of liberal orthodoxy on the rest of us -- in her case the notion that "access" to contraception is a problem for women in this country. Her willingness to pick up and carry the banner of a lie, even if subjecting herself to a little derision and criticism for doing so, is just the kind of individual initiative that will set this successful striver apart from all the also-rans at Georgetown Law.

Her Beau Geste will not go unnoticed or unrewarded. Something tells me Ms. Fluke's first job after graduation will relieve her permanently of the nagging fear that she will not be able to pay for the contraceptive of her choice. Sandra Fluke will thus join the long line of those like our President himself, who chose to enter the charmed precincts of Belmont through the vocation of promulgating the lies necessary to sustain progressive politics.

In Ms. Fluke's case the greatest betrayal is joining in the great elite conspiracy Murray calls not preaching what you practice. Take a good look at Sandra Fluke; she is no one's victim. She appears to be a gutsy, ambitious striver who put in the library and class time to finish her degrees. But she did more than just show up on time for class, regardless of what many of us may think of her actions. In the manner of successful people, she grasped an extraordinary opportunity for advancement that presented itself in the form of Nancy Pelosi's political requirements of last week.

But successful individual striving is not the story Sandra Fluke chooses to tell all the little girls of Murray's down and out Fishtown. She has, instead, thrown in her lot with those whose goal is to convince those little girls that the deck is stacked hopelessly against them, and that they can only get what they need through the beneficence of a nurturing government. For so doing she has already been rewarded with a congratulatory phone call from the President of the United States.

Rush Limbaugh used a word to describe Miss Fluke that upset a lot of people. If understood in a political rather than behavioral sense, that word does not seem an unreasonable characterization.

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[cum2ut]

I'm of the opinion that if you're a private institution, you should be able to decide what you want to provide & what you don't. If it was a state run system, then I would agree with her, but Georgetown isn't. If they don't want to provide it, they shouldn't have to. And I'm sorry, but my birth control is $12 for a 3 month supply at Walmart, so the notion that its not affordable is ridiculous.

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

They had a guy who was going to testify on the issue, which wasn't the issue the woman decided to testify on, Nancy nixed him and tried to get her in at the last minute in order to follow up on the Stephanopolis charge that was begun during the debates at the request of the Party.* When she could not succeed in that end-around, she made up a phony hearing and had her buddies and fellow Democrats from the press come in and reported on it like it was the real thing, but all it was was a hearsay recital of a bunch of anonymous friends and acquaintances which leads one to believe that this woman is traveling with the unluckiest circle of friends in the nation or that she is just making shit up to elicit an emotional response and deny logic and reason in the "discussion."

This is manufactured outrage and the Democrat elites know their followers are conditioned to lash out on command.

Now they will get Scooby snacks...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm of the opinion that if you're a private institution, you should be able to decide what you want to provide & what you don't. If it was a state run system, then I would agree with her, but Georgetown isn't. If they don't want to provide it, they shouldn't have to. And I'm sorry, but my birth control is $12 for a 3 month supply at Walmart, so the notion that its not affordable is ridiculous.

Thank you for a bit of reason.

 

[mercury14]

Why don't you link to it so we can quote it and enjoy three or four days of you screaming LIAR!



http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=800325

You're a dumbfuck if you think I was seriously trying to call myself an Australian philosophy student. You're a bigger dumbfuck for quadruple cross-posting this in four different threads to try to "make" it matter.

Really though... you've been caught in a load of lies this past week and all this... is all you can come up with?

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

With your alt history you haven't got any credibility when it comes to accusations about lying.

Same guy who's first "appearance" was as one of three authors sharing the Celbarai alt.

He says, it's okay, I was lying to eyer, but he had Candicame eating it all up and taking him for real and as near as I can tell the young liberal pothead has done nothing to deserve that kind of deception from someone of his preferred polity...

He might begin to think that you and I aren't the real liars in the world. Some of his buddies seem to be especially adroit at it.



He might even begin to suspect the party and its leadership...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I recall a case I had. A 17 year old girl claimed her mother ran her over with a Cadillac, tho the girl had no injuries.

The real issue was a lesbian affair the girl had with one of her teachers. Mom took action against it, and the liberals went to war with mom. The school and police and child welfare threw everything at mom but nuthin stuck, cuz mom was an upstanding citizen. The cops characterized daddy as a 'drug lord' based on a 1968 pinch for marijuana possession. The Tampa police chief is a lesbian.

But the bottomline wuz, the 17 year old had no marks or injuries. As I said to the court, IF WHAT THEY SAY IS TRUE IT DONT SAY MUCH FOR MOMS SKILLS AS A KILLER-WANNABEE.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

JAMES? u in da rite thred?

 

[JohnnySavage]

I'm of the opinion that if you're a private institution, you should be able to decide what you want to provide & what you don't. If it was a state run system, then I would agree with her, but Georgetown isn't. If they don't want to provide it, they shouldn't have to. And I'm sorry, but my birth control is $12 for a 3 month supply at Walmart, so the notion that its not affordable is ridiculous.

I'm sick to death of this issue, and I shudder to think what they sell as birth control in Utah for $4 a month, but:

The sad fact is that if a woman’s insurance does not cover the costs of birth control, then the Loestrin 24 costs are quite a heavy burden. A prescription of Loestrin 24 without an insurance co-pay is around $80 per month.link

At the end of the day though, I'm a man and have no business telling women how to manage their health. Women don't protest health plans providing Viagra. Like I always say on this forum, the world will be a better place once all these nasty old white guys die off.

The fact of the matter is that Georgetown isn't a church. It's a university taking millions of dollars from the federal government every year. If they want to argue that they don't have to follow the rules, stop feeding at the public trough.

 

[mercury14]

In short, she's full of shit.

Some states allow stores to sell drugs below cost. Target and Wal-Mart have deals where they take a loss on drugs just to get customers into their stores. There's a reason the pharmacy isn't right at the front door where it would be most convenient. A number of states do not allow this practice however.

But you're wrong to jump to the conclusion that you found a simple solution because:

1) Target only subsidizes one kind of birth control pill, sprintec. There are about seventy of them on the market. Sprintec has a side effect profile that's intolerable and actually quite dangerous for some women, and it's one of the ones that's associated with stroke and blood clots. You can't just say that since one particular medication is cheap in some states that birth control is cheap.

2) Some women and their doctors come to the conclusion that the best contraceptive for them is something other than birth control pills.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

How many women actually have to HAVE to have Loestrin 24?

Did anyone check the Pharmaceutical company over their hardship programs, which, btw, they all have no as a matter of PR...



That's the real problem in this whole issue; due to the marriage of the press and the Democratic Party, they no longer serve as independent assessors of fact, but rather as the sledgehammer to be used against any reasoned and principled opposition.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

JAMES? u in da rite thred?

See my comment about Walter Lippman's book. U read my comment thru the template of your experience and knowledge.

Let me help you out: Democrats are agenda driven rather than fact influenced.

 

[mercury14]

How many women actually have to HAVE to have Loestrin 24?

Target has a cheap price on exactly one kind of birth control pill. And for LOTS of women it happens to not be the best option. Or even an option at all.

Does anyone know if IUD insertions are on Target's $9 list?

Did anyone check the Pharmaceutical company over their hardship programs, which, btw, they all have no as a matter of PR...

You're joking right? You honestly think it's perfectly fine to have a system where women have to beg unreliable corporations for their birth control pills, even as their prescriptions are running out?

That's the real problem in this whole issue; due to the marriage of the press and the Democratic Party, they no longer serve as independent assessors of fact, but rather as the sledgehammer to be used against any reasoned and principled opposition.

Fact? The fact is insurance is regulated. And in red states like Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, etc they've had this exact mandate on the books for many years. Conservatives have always been 100% fine with it. Hell, it was their own idea. They were all for it until they were against it.

Maybe if your party's platform wasn't such an incoherent hypocritical mess the media would treat it more favorably?

 

[JohnnySavage]

How many women actually have to HAVE to have Loestrin 24?

Did anyone check the Pharmaceutical company over their hardship programs, which, btw, they all have no as a matter of PR...



That's the real problem in this whole issue; due to the marriage of the press and the Democratic Party, they no longer serve as independent assessors of fact, but rather as the sledgehammer to be used against any reasoned and principled opposition.

I don't know how many women have to take Loestrin; I'm not a doctor. Presumably the doctor is prescribing what's best. If not, don't we need a panel to establish the effectiveness of a drug and it's use?

You know you can get Viagra on line for 50 cents a pill? No need to put that through the insurance!

I don't know what the last paragraph means.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Just give us the numbers of actual affected women.



Then prove they are not getting the required contraception because they cannot pay for it and no one will help them pay for it including the Pharmaceutical companies and this time, try to be honest instead of emotional.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Just give us the numbers of actual affected women.



Then prove they are not getting the required contraception because they cannot pay for it and no one will help them pay for it including the Pharmaceutical companies and this time, try to be honest instead of emotional.

WHAT???? Why are you making that argument with respect to this one chemical compound? Give us the number of actual men affected with HIV.

Then prove they are not getting the required drugs because they cannot pay for them. Then we will see if we can be benevolent enough to offer them insurance coverage. -very big of you.

Why are you singling out women?

 

[mercury14]

I don't know what the last paragraph means.

It means he's aware of the damage Republicans inflict upon their brand when people hear what they really believe. So it's time to shift the blame to the media for forcing them to talk about their positions.

 

[mercury14]

Just give us the numbers of actual affected women.



Then prove they are not getting the required contraception because they cannot pay for it and no one will help them pay for it including the Pharmaceutical companies and this time, try to be honest instead of emotional.

Why? What number will prove to you that there is a problem here?

 

[off2bed]

Birth control is already free. It's called abstinence. And if she's a serious law school student she shouldn't have time for sex.