First Look Body Parts

[dr_mabeuse]

Some time ago there was a study where they showed men pictures of women (clothed), and women pictures of men (same), and traced the movements of their eyes as they looked at these full body shots.

The idea was to determine which parts of a woman's body a man looks at first and vice versa. As I recall, the pictures were about life size, or at least big enough that you could trace the eye movements as they scanned over the picture's face.

Both men and women looked at the face first, but it's what happened next that I don't quite remember except for this: The women's second look was at the men's shoulders.

We can probably guess what the men looked at second, but as I recall the hair was surprisingly near the top (NPI) of the list.

I also think that the women looked at the man's eyes when they went to the face, but the men looked at the women's mouths.

Does anyone remember this study?


---dr.M.

 

[oggbashan]

Manwatching

Something like it was published pps 71-76 as part of a large book "Manwatching - A Field Guide to Human Behaviour" by Desmond Morris 1977.

References were to Argyle,M and Cook,M 1976 Gaze and Mutual Gaze Cambridge University Press ; Morris, D The Naked Ape 1967, The Human Zoo 1969, Intimate Behaviour 1971, all published Cape; and Yarbus, A.L. 1967 Eye Movement and Vision, Plenum Press New York.

Og

 

[MathGirl]

Re: Manwatching

Something like it was published pps 71-76 as part of a large book "Manwatching - A Field Guide to Human Behaviour" by Desmond Morris 1977.

Dear Og,
I suppose you had that reference about the Nekkid Ape guy right there in your mind without having to look anything up. Do you have an academic specialty in forensic pornography or something?
MG

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Makes sense, doc. A friend of mine has a fetish for broad shoulders. She thinks it's very manly.

 

[oggbashan]

Re: Re: Manwatching

Dear Og,
I suppose you had that reference about the Nekkid Ape guy right there in your mind without having to look anything up. Do you have an academic specialty in forensic pornography or something?
MG

No. I'm a second-hand book dealer. Dirty books (that is soiled, not pornographic) are my trade.

Useless information is my hobby.

Og.

 

[MathGirl]

Re: Re: Re: Manwatching

No. I'm a second-hand book dealer. Dirty books (that is soiled, not pornographic) are my trade.

Useless information is my hobby.

Og.

Dear Og,
Here's an book I just bought:
"Most Remarkable Names" by John Train
Clarkson N. Potter, 1985

It lists hundreds of oddball names. All are well documented. Titles, positions held, NY Times, etc.
I'm going to post a list here soon, but a few examples are:

Sistine Madonna MccClung
Genghis Cohen
Theodoophus J. Poontang
Larry Derryberry (Attorney General, Oklahoma)
Lavendar Hankey
Muffy Virgin

Hur, hur
MG

Ps. I, too, am a collector of useless information. Wanna play Trivial Pursuit? For Money?

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Mathgirl:

Have you absolutely no respect for the integrity of a thread? Does the search for knowledge so rankle and fester in your craw that you must don your hobnailed boots and stomp like some epileptic brontosaurus over the delicate sensibilities of others in their innocent pursuit of harmless arcanae? Have you nothing more urgent to do than lie prostrate on your sparking California beach, kicking your enticingly gamin leg idly back and forth and lasciviously stroking the keys of your sand-encrusted laptop infrared equipped computer and tormenting us mortals not only with your invidious wit but with your bulging pink tan-through miracle-fiber pink bikini? If not that reprehensible steatapygous infant with the dark spectacles you so often use for you Av, and which inevitably induces nausea and makes gorges rise throughout the site?

Have you no decency, madam? Have you no shame?


---dr.M.

 

[Sir Tarquin Thripp]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Manwatching

Dear Og,
Here's an book I just bought:
"Most Remarkable Names" by John Train
Clarkson N. Potter, 1985

It lists hundreds of oddball names. All are well documented. Titles, positions held, NY Times, etc.
I'm going to post a list here soon, but a few examples are:

Sistine Madonna MccClung
Genghis Cohen
Theodoophus J. Poontang
Larry Derryberry (Attorney General, Oklahoma)
Lavendar Hankey
Muffy Virgin

Hur, hur
MG

Ps. I, too, am a collector of useless information. Wanna play Trivial Pursuit? For Money?

I don't find anything strange about these names young lady, and I never play anything trivial for money.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Mathgirl:

Have you absolutely no respect for the integrity of a thread?
Have you no decency, madam? Have you no shame?


---dr.M.

You do realize that you asked MATHGIRL that question, right?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Manwatching

It lists hundreds of oddball names. All are well documented. Titles, positions held, NY Times, etc.
I'm going to post a list here soon, but a few examples are:

Sistine Madonna MccClung
Genghis Cohen
Theodoophus J. Poontang
Larry Derryberry (Attorney General, Oklahoma)
Lavendar Hankey
Muffy Virgin

In Sweden, we call a book listing weird names a "phone book".

 

[oggbashan]

Back to the Thread

You could try:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez

and search for "gaze" or "eye contact".

Og

 

[oggbashan]

Useful Information

While seeking for meaningful input for this thread, I found:
Linnabkoski I, Gronroos M, Petrovere A:
"Eye contact as a trigger of male sexual arousal in stump-tailed macaques"

Then there was the study on Japanese macaques, and on marmosets.

I think they tell me more than I want to know.

Og.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Was that a reference for the subject of the thread, or for MG's list of funny names?

 

[oggbashan]

Was that a reference for the subject of the thread, or for MG's list of funny names?

Both

 

[MathGirl]

Dr M's hissy fit

Mathgirl:

Have you absolutely no respect for the integrity of a thread? Does the search for knowledge so rankle and fester in your craw that you must don your hobnailed boots and stomp like some epileptic brontosaurus over the delicate sensibilities of others in their innocent pursuit of harmless arcanae? Have you nothing more urgent to do than lie prostrate on your sparking California beach, kicking your enticingly gamin leg idly back and forth and lasciviously stroking the keys of your sand-encrusted laptop infrared equipped computer and tormenting us mortals not only with your invidious wit but with your bulging pink tan-through miracle-fiber pink bikini? If not that reprehensible steatapygous infant with the dark spectacles you so often use for you Av, and which inevitably induces nausea and makes gorges rise throughout the site?
Have you no decency, madam? Have you no shame?
---dr.M.

Dear Dr M,
Let me address the points of your hysterical rhetoric in order:
No.
Hobnails are not worn with bikinis. Ever.
It was Aruba.
"Enticingly gamin," eh?
Cheeky is less steatopygenous than most Hottentots
No.
I shall replace the "reprehensible" AV with a recent studio portrait. I'd hate to cause a herniated gorge.
MG
Ps. Have you been taking your medication?
Pps. The brontosaur brain was too small to support grand mal seizures.

 

[oggbashan]

Re: Dr M's hissy fit

Hobnails are not worn with bikinis. Ever.

Doc Martens boots are soemtimes worn with bikinis on UK beaches. It is part of the punk look. Doc Martens are oil and acid resistant. They also useful for dealing with boys who have taken Charles Atlas courses. They might have learnt how to deal with muscular sand-kickers, but bikini-clad boot-wearing blonde goddesses are covered by the syllabus.

"Enticingly gamin," eh?[/QUOTE]

The poised toe of the lesser pink-bikini-ed MG is more enticing than some of your other AVs.

"Gamin" - perhaps not. I think a visit to an optometrist might be required.

Og

 

[oggbashan]

Re: Re: Dr M's hissy fit

but bikini-clad boot-wearing blonde goddesses are covered by the syllabus.

Oops - the negative was missing. "NOT covered by the syllabus.

Og.

 

[MathGirl]

Og's AV

Awwwww, wasn't he cuuuuuuute?
MG

Ps. That was a "clothing optional" beach. I was in chador compared to some of the other women.

 

[oggbashan]

Big Ears

I might have been, but I had to be photographed side-on. My ears stuck out. They still do.

Og

 

[MathGirl]

Re: Big Ears

I might have been, but I had to be photographed side-on. My ears stuck out. They still do.

Og

Dear Og,
You'd never know it in that picture of you wearing the cake on your head.
MG

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Re: Og's AV

Awwwww, wasn't he cuuuuuuute?
MG

Ps. That was a "clothing optional" beach. I was in chador compared to some of the other women.

I saw a documentary about a brothel in America called the "Bunny Ranch". They had a pool area where they had a big sign saying:

"TOPS ARE NOT ALLOWED

Bottoms optional
-but frowned upon"

And us SWEDES have a reputation for being slutty!

 

[MathGirl]

Public apology

Originally posted by dr_mabeuse Mathgirl:Have you absolutely no respect for the integrity of a thread? Have you no decency, madam? Have you no shame?

Dear Dr. M,
My apologies for hijacking your thread. I got caught up in something and didn't realize what I'd done until it was too late. You were quite right in chastizing me. Ouch
MG

 

[oggbashan]

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The preferred form of citation for the online version of this paper is as
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Contents
Contents Page

Introduction

Forms of gaze

Direction of gaze

Angle of view

Apparent proximity

The eye of the camera

The social codes of looking

John Berger's Ways of Seeing

Laura Mulvey on film spectatorship

Related issues

Categorizing facial expressions

References and supplementary reading

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[Karen Kraft]

Math Girl Integrity

I agree. And when the center of the cake springs back when lightly touched, it is ready to be taken from the over, cooled, and then frosted. Good luck. Sally.

 

[Karen Kraft]

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