First ever useful feedback.

[NOIRTRASH]

It had to happen. I posted my first LIT tale 2 years ago next week. The comments for the whole time were EAT SHIT & DIE, or LOVED IT. But yesterday I got SLOW DOWN.

And it made me think about writing tempo and reader comfort.

I think fast. I'm Mercurial. In school I had the answer first. Most readers aren't like me.

All things considered, there is little in my skull to impede impulses from the thalamus to the neocortex, it's like the empty space between stars! If writing were music what I must now do is switch from toccata-fugue to sonata-allegro form. That is, shoe-horn a petit pastoral transition into the middle of the story. A petit set-piece. Maybe the calm center of a hurricane is a better analogy.

 

[le_kitty]

It had to happen. I posted my first LIT tale 2 years ago next week. The comments for the whole time were EAT SHIT & DIE, or LOVED IT. But yesterday I got SLOW DOWN.

And it made me think about writing tempo and reader comfort.

I think fast. I'm Mercurial. In school I had the answer first. Most readers aren't like me.

All things considered, there is little in my skull to impede impulses from the thalamus to the neocortex, it's like the empty space between stars! If writing were music what I must now do is switch from toccata-fugue to sonata-allegro form. That is, shoe-horn a petit pastoral transition into the middle of the story. A petit set-piece. Maybe the calm center of a hurricane is a better analogy.

Can I just say a fugue and a sonata are simply different styles of music? You analogy is saying you should switch from playing Baroque to playing Classical, when each period/style is simply a matter of taste and not a reference to tempo. Perhaps andante, moderato and allegro would help more.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Can I just say a fugue and a sonata are simply different styles of music? You analogy is saying you should switch from playing Baroque to playing Classical, when each period/style is simply a matter of taste and not a reference to tempo. Perhaps andante, moderato and allegro would help more.

I'm speaking of compositional form that allows for breath-taking (intermission).

Classical and Baroque are different styles.

 

[le_kitty]

I'm speaking of compositional form that allows for breath-taking (intermission).

Classical and Baroque are different styles.

True, fair enough. The fugue belongs to the Baroque period.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

True, fair enough. The fugue belongs to the Baroque period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGnglC9DTrk

This guy explains sonata vs contrapuntal? forms Bach vs Mozart

Fugue is kinda existential when what I mean is more like dominant and tonic themes without development.

 

[NaokoSmith]

Fugue is a good description of your writing, which is more like a Bach Toccata and Fugue. I'm not sure switching to a Mozart sonata with trills and additional decorative notes will be quite your thing? It will be interesting to see how your style changes in consequence, please do post a link if you do decide to write in this new way.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Well, there you go Noir - on another thread I wrote that you probably wouldn't like my style, and that sometimes less isn't always more. "Slow down" is sorta saying a similar thing, I think, in a different kind of way.

Old dog, new tricks; or just a slower old dog?

Don't go all pretty in pink on us mate, we won't be able to cope with that!

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Fugue is a good description of your writing, which is more like a Bach Toccata and Fugue. I'm not sure switching to a Mozart sonata with trills and additional decorative notes will be quite your thing? It will be interesting to see how your style changes in consequence, please do post a link if you do decide to write in this new way.

The reader wants me to slow the tempo, my challenge is to figure out how to do it without changing my fundamental style. I imagine he wants a softer pitch, too. Maybe I can make the gal fall asleep on her lover but snore softly? Yuh think?

 

[NOIRTRASH]

FUGUE FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRa3REdozw

The themes are repeated but not simultaneous.

SONATA FORM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsOUcikyGRk

EXPOSITION, DEVELOPMENT, RECAPITULATION.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmWkEpC7hkA

CHOPIN TRIES SONATA TOO

 

[lovecraft68]

It had to happen. I posted my first LIT tale 2 years ago next week. The comments for the whole time were EAT SHIT & DIE, or LOVED IT. But yesterday I got SLOW DOWN.

And it made me think about writing tempo and reader comfort.

I think fast. I'm Mercurial. In school I had the answer first. Most readers aren't like me.

All things considered, there is little in my skull to impede impulses from the thalamus to the neocortex, it's like the empty space between stars! If writing were music what I must now do is switch from toccata-fugue to sonata-allegro form. That is, shoe-horn a petit pastoral transition into the middle of the story. A petit set-piece. Maybe the calm center of a hurricane is a better analogy.

When I did the 'tag team' challenge here last year I had two partners. The first dropped because real life crap came up, but before they did they said that I'd overwhelmed them with the first part I sent, then the second, then the third.

They were a slower writer. The type that sat back, thought it out, plotted, kind of circled the idea before jumping in. I just go full tilt and keep going.

When the second person jumped in we had to talk for awhile about the plotline as they were coming into it new. I kept going on and on and they finally declared my mind was like a bag of cats.

My mind works fast and I beat things to death looking at it every way, banging it out and running to the next while the other person is still mulling over the original thought.

So I get what you mean. The only time I think I've deliberately reined were for a the couple of romances I've written because frenetic doesn't seem to get good results with those.

I know nothing of classical music, but I'll off you this for what it sound like in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJv8sY2CxZA

 

[NOIRTRASH]

When I did the 'tag team' challenge here last year I had two partners. The first dropped because real life crap came up, but before they did they said that I'd overwhelmed them with the first part I sent, then the second, then the third.

They were a slower writer. The type that sat back, thought it out, plotted, kind of circled the idea before jumping in. I just go full tilt and keep going.

When the second person jumped in we had to talk for awhile about the plotline as they were coming into it new. I kept going on and on and they finally declared my mind was like a bag of cats.

My mind works fast and I beat things to death looking at it every way, banging it out and running to the next while the other person is still mulling over the original thought.

So I get what you mean. The only time I think I've deliberately reined were for a the couple of romances I've written because frenetic doesn't seem to get good results with those.

I know nothing of classical music, but I'll off you this for what it sound like in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJv8sY2CxZA

Many rockers get music training, its common.

 

[le_kitty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGnglC9DTrk

This guy explains sonata vs contrapuntal? forms Bach vs Mozart

Fugue is kinda existential when what I mean is more like dominant and tonic themes without development.

I'm still confused by what you mean.

 

[le_kitty]

FUGUE FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRa3REdozw

The themes are repeated but not simultaneous.

SONATA FORM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsOUcikyGRk

EXPOSITION, DEVELOPMENT, RECAPITULATION.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmWkEpC7hkA

CHOPIN TRIES SONATA TOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZd2q3BYPwI

I would prefer the piano version if you want to hear the different voices clearly. I don't understand what you mean by repeated but not simultaneous. A fugue is polyphonic.

Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata 1st and 3rd movement which are in sonata form are very gorgeous. The second movement is not in sonata form though.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZd2q3BYPwI

I would prefer the piano version if you want to hear the different voices clearly. I don't understand what you mean by repeated but not simultaneous. A fugue is polyphonic.

Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata 1st and 3rd movement which are in sonata form are very gorgeous. The second movement is not in sonata form though.

Its all polyphonic unless its a solo on a Sousaphone.

What I meant was: The same theme is played by different choirs of instruments or keyboards or foot pedals but not at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95gLT7NzHAM

WATCH A FUGUE