Fight the Travel Ban

[Chris_Michael]

Good. I think they need to add all 49 states to the list. Nobody in, nobody out.

 

[phrodeau]

So, if the State wants to contract for services from some provider (like, say, if the healthcare industry gets deregulated and a provider in another State could do the job cheaper than the current State healthcare provider could or something) then the representatives from California CANNOT go there, or that provider's representative come here, if the provider is in one of the "banned" States. Ergo, higher costs for Californians.

Discrimination is discrimination even when the government does it. It's actually WORSE when the government does it.

Let them use Skype.

 

[sharingfantasies]

Keep Californian's in California. It helps the environmentalists when ozone destroying emissions are kept in state.

Oh dear, good luck with that.. apparently those emissions travel a long way. Or at least that is what this study is supposed to determine

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/csd/factsheets/csdCABOTS.pdf

 

[urguyscott]

Wow I figured a few pro terrorist people might have no shame or care about their freedom, but it seems there are several here who don't give a damn about the Constitution or their own freedom and safety. And I never said anything about Muslims. Only the racist left wingers bring up race and anti religion. I'd be happy if all those who the left want (terrorist, drug dealers and gangsters) come in and just go to San Francisco or one of the other pro criminal cities.

Brown's father was corrupt, so much so that President Johnson didn't want him in Washington. Brown Jr. was known as "Space Cadet" when he was first gov. of CA. He was forced out and his hand pick replacement was impeached. Brown is as bad as you get. I'm surprised he doesn't run for Gov. of Ill. they have a long line of jerks like him in prison. The state is over taxed, overrun with drug and street gangs and the democrats don't care about environment or jobs in this state. He had to wait for a new litter of snowflakes to run for office again. People just don't pay attention to history so they are doomed to relive it.

As far as those who are defending the ban on Americans traveling (and even if you work for the democrats, you are still an American and have the right to go anywhere you please in this country) the ban is unconstitutional as is most of the laws passed by our great leaders here. But I see your point. Only terrorists from countries that are well known to spread their hate and death should be allowed freedom to come and go and do whatever they desire here, but anyone of you leftist in CA or anywhere else should be banned by your own laws from traveling anywhere in the U. S. A. Believe me, we Americans have no use for you so stay home.

And there was mention of pollution. Why is it the left are crying gobal warming, yet they have no problem with the very countries that are causing it, China, Russia, India, etc? Have you been to China or know anyone who has or to Japan or any country south of China? Most cities in China you don't know if it is day or night, but the left see no problem with that. In a few years that smog will be here. When the left from Washington and Hollywood really want to clean things up let me know and I'll join them in the fight. By the way, Brown made a trip in private jets to China and came away with nothing but a tax payer vacation. He is going to Mexico and Canada for vacation also, polluting the air and stealing tax payer money. But the left sees nothing wrong with that or his train to nowhere.

But back to the subject. No state has the right to ban Americans from traveling withing the U. S. Period. Regardless of whatever cry baby reason they give. Civilian or government workers. That violates their rights. But then the left cares nothing for human rights, civil rights, women's rights, etc. Terrorists and drug dealers yes. As far as the gays and the drag queens, they have their rights too, but they have no right to tell us or force us from our civil rights.

 

[Hard_Rom]

They are not banning their right to travel. They are saying they will not let them submit an expense report for doing it and that state employees will not be sent on state business. No where does it say personal citizens can not travel on personal business to said states.

Stop trying to pervert the truth and twist the facts to push your RW agenda. Not that truth and facts mean much to you.

 

[nowisthetime]

Good grief, all these right wing posters opening up threads.

Such sour winners, I mean your party is heading all three branches of government and you are still whiny pussies.

Why so bitter?


What is it about right wingers that they are never satisfied with misery being placed on others who are different from them? Now THEY want to be considered victims.

Notice the OP, like the typical right wing Nazibag never expressed outrage at the ban of Muslims or the oppressive anti-gay laws of many of these state governments.

Nope, he only created this thread to make it seem like RIGHT WINGERS are the one and only true victims.

Right wingers are evil narcissists who think they are the center of the world.

 

[magicalmoments]

Good grief, all these right wing posters opening up threads.

Such sour winners, I mean your party is heading all three branches of government and you are still whiny pussies.

Why so bitter?


What is it about right wingers that they are never satisfied with misery being placed on others who are different from them? Now THEY want to be considered victims.

Notice the OP, like the typical right wing Nazibag never expressed outrage at the ban of Muslims or the oppressive anti-gay laws of many of these state governments.

Nope, he only created this thread to make it seem like RIGHT WINGERS are the one and only true victims.

Right wingers are evil narcissists who think they are the center of the world.

The OP is not worth the effort. He is just a troll looking to wind people up. He doesn't actually believe a word he posts.

 

[Hard_Rom]

The OP is not worth the effort. He is just a troll looking to wind people up. He doesn't actually believe a word he posts.

On the contrary, IMO, he believes every word. And it is that which makes him even more despicable, or should I say deplorable, than a plain and simple internet troll. He is quite willing to pervert the truth to push through his argument supporting discriminatory practices. And will likely jump in with the argument that intolerance of intolerance is itself intolerance. He wish to have his cake and eat it too. Which many of the RW do.

 

[dan_c00000]

Yes, as the map below shows, California is way over on their ozone.

And so is the entire Boston-Washington corridor where about 47 million people live (or about 15% of the entire U.S. population). Not to mention it's responsible for around 20% of the countries GDP. I noticed you didn't bitch about that region.

According to EPA estimates by 2025 there will be very few counties that violate ozone laws.

https://www.codot.gov/programs/environmental/air-quality/photos.html/ozone-maps

 

[HisArpy]

https://www.codot.gov/programs/environmental/air-quality/photos.html/ozone-maps

Wait, what does the gray shading of California on the map mean? Are they saying that California is expected to slide into the ocean by 2025?

If so, I'm all for heading to Arizona to buy me some soon-to-be beachfront property.

 

[urguyscott]

They are not banning their right to travel. They are saying they will not let them submit an expense report for doing it and that state employees will not be sent on state business. No where does it say personal citizens can not travel on personal business to said states.

Stop trying to pervert the truth and twist the facts to push your RW agenda. Not that truth and facts mean much to you.

So if you were working for the State and were sent to one of these "criminal terrorist states" that the Democrats have banned travel too and put in an expense report and your boss said "Go to hell, we ain't paying you." you would not be upset or think they are violating your rights?

By the way read the law, I posted it at the beginning. I admit I was wrong in putting in jabs here and there. That was not my business. The people on here have a right to pick it apart for the unconstitutional law that it is. And you saying that you would obey such a law then you must also be in favor of Pres. Trumps travel ban. If not then what you are saying is that non citizens have more rights to travel in this country than you, a citizen?

I am not working for CNN or MSNBC. I don't make fake reports and lies like they do. I consider such a statement as an insult. I posted the law and the Democrats that wrote it and passed it as it is stated. They are telling people who work in this state (only those in government because they knew they could never get away with telling the whole population of California such a thing) they can't do business with these states simply because they pass their own laws rather than let the leftist here in California do it for them.

If you agree with any part of the law then you see nothing wrong with the other 49 states saying that none of their people should come to California or do business with any people or company in California simply because we don't let them make our laws. Hey fair is fair.

And I never said all citizens, just that if they could get away with it they would include us all. The fact that they discriminate against their own employees and violate their rights doesn't make it correct. If I told you you could not go somewhere or spend you money as you please (by the way read the whole thing, it states that if it has to do with money then the hell with the Gay and third gender people - that shows you what the Democrats really think) you would call me a right wing terrorist violating your civil rights.

Right or Left (and the rest of us Americans) should be insulted and angry at the low life jerks that wrote and passed such a law and the courts that let it stand. I can't believe you would want to live under such a system like they have in China, Cuba, etc.

Remember the other 49 states don't take this stupid thing, you can't call it a law, serious. If they did they would retaliate in banning anything coming out of California and you would agree that they have that right? Really?

Now go back and read it and see that they have no real feeling for the Gay community when it comes to a buck. They also have no feelings for your civil rights either. There is no intelligent way you can defend this so called law. But please try. It's still a free country till you leftist take over and as an American you have the right to speak your piece. Use it while you can.

 

[urguyscott]

Originally Posted by nowisthetime85 View Post
Good grief, all these right wing posters opening up threads.

Such sour winners, I mean your party is heading all three branches of government and you are still whiny pussies.

You had all three branches for most of eight years and did nothing but set the world on the path to the dark ages. Let the grown up have a go at running things now and we will try hard to correct all the mistakes you spoiled children have made.

And really who has been doing most of the whiny crying since November? Get over it all ready. Clinton and her gang blew it.

 

[Hard_Rom]

The point is you will NOT be sent to one of those states. Even if it was required for you to travel there to upgrade a technical skill you could not claim it as an expense. You would either have to go to another state which offered the training or forego having the cost covered by the state. Yes this could possibly cause an issue with some folk. But I would imagine a very small amount. It would have be a skill training or seminar not offered anywhere not covered by the ban.

I repeat you would not be sent there on state business or any business you could file an expense claim for including training.

This has nothing to do with personal rights. It is entirely a state as an employer and a person as an employee.

Try to get that through your tiny little brain. It is quite a simple idea. The state of California will not recompense state employees for expenses related to state business that occurs in said states. Nor will it send state employees to that state on state business. As an employer they have every right to determine who the state will conduct business with. And as a duly democratically elected body the state has the backing of the majority of citizens of California.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Originally Posted by nowisthetime85 View Post
Good grief, all these right wing posters opening up threads.

Such sour winners, I mean your party is heading all three branches of government and you are still whiny pussies.

You had all three branches for most of eight years and did nothing but set the world on the path to the dark ages. Let the grown up have a go at running things now and we will try hard to correct all the mistakes you spoiled children have made.

And really who has been doing most of the whiny crying since November? Get over it all ready. Clinton and her gang blew it.

The Republicans have had control of Congress for 18 out of 22 years. And 12 out of 22 years have controlled the Senate.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...resentatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png

And if the Democrats have had a time ruling it is due to being democratically elected. And without having to rely on electoral college votes or court cases over hanging chads.