Feminists, why aren't Nice Guys entitled to get the girl?

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Got your attention, didn't I?

Well this ain't actually about Nice Guys and their supposed sense of entitlement.

This is actually about women and their sense of entitlement. Women feel entitled to a man who is their protector, provider, and all around hero. And women are also quick to lecture and punish men for not catering to to this entitled mentality.

Sounds familiar to what you accuse Nice Guys of doing?

Women are raised on TV stories, fairy tales, and in their adult years, romance books, all of which convey the message that even the homely or frumpy beta woman is entitled to be rescued by the rugged hero, the handsome prince, the lovable rogue, or the rich guy.

This sense of entitlement then metastasizes within the female psyche. It is common knowledge that women typically expect their man to fulfill the roles they read about in the fairy tales, romance books and women's magazines. Women routinely test men to see if they can fit the alpha male standard. If a woman cannot find her alpha male, she falls back to the entitlement of last resort: she will not date a man who is not objectively tall. The only reason a woman forego all of this is after they come to believe they have no chance of meeting a man who fulfills those standards. In other words, women only abandon their sense of entitlement when they feel forced to settle.

Whenever society gets around to occasionally fretting over some men who won't date homely or fat women, a campaign of shaming ensues. Men are told, via fairy tale storytelling, that their pickiness is wrong and they will be punished for it. This shaming also occurs in the modern age. Women are not shamed like this by society. Hypergamic women are routinely glorified and encouraged.

Virtually all insults that women use against men, are some variant of insinuation that a man isn't capable of attracting, protecting, pleasing or providing for other women. In other words, women's insults against men comprise entirely of men failing to fulfill a woman's sense of entitlement.

With a few notable exceptions, practically every tale about love that you will ever read, caters to this sense of entitlement. All of the exceptions to this hard rule are not only rare, but also very recent.

Like the mythical evil Nice Guy, women are not willing to budge from their sense of entitlement. But they are actually worse than Nice Guys - women will cling even harder to their belief that men somehow owe them something, even into their 30s and 40s. At the same time women are whining about their biological clock running out, they are blaming their problems on men not satisfying their hypergamic standards. When a woman is trembling with fear that she'll never meet a husband to father and raise her kids, she never asks what she did wrong to get in this situation. She always blames the men for not being the hero she wanted to marry.

Self-entitled women are being called upon by a small number of men to check their privilege. But invariably, women respond with scathing hostility that borders on outright paranoia. Such is the irrational reaction of any privileged group whose sense of entitlement is openly challenged.

But while self-entitled women can beat back verbal challenges to their privilege, there is one consequence they cannot avoid. Even the worst of the so-called evil Nice Guys have all the time in the world to figure out how to get the woman of their dreams, or at least get comfortable with settling for less. Women? Not so much. Countless women now are chasing their entitlement fantasies even as said fantasies flee down the same road that leads to menopause. Many women, unable to check their privilege, will follow their entitlement fantasies to the bitter end, off the proverbial cliff, and in the end it will not be misogyny, Nice Guys or male self-entitlement that destroys these women and removes them from the gene pool... but rather, Darwin and Mother Nature themselves.

Feminists may not care about having children, but all the other hypergamic ladies out there... if you don't check that privilege, a significant number of you will get checked by Mother Nature. Some of the rest of you will get dumped once you hit the expiration date your hero has set for you. Will you be one of those women? Maybe, or maybe not. How lucky do you feel?
 
Got your attention, didn't I?

Well this ain't actually about Nice Guys and their supposed sense of entitlement.

This is actually about women and their sense of entitlement. Women feel entitled to a man who is their protector, provider, and all around hero. And women are also quick to lecture and punish men for not catering to to this entitled mentality.

Sounds familiar to what you accuse Nice Guys of doing?
Nope.

Two different things. Both silly, but more opposites than similarities.

The Picky Girl is stalling the world for a fictional partner.

The Nice Guy is stalling himself for a fictional narrative.
 
Nope.

Two different things. Both silly, but more opposites than similarities.

The Picky Girl is stalling the world for a fictional partner.

The Nice Guy is stalling himself for a fictional narrative.
Stalling himself for a fictional narrative? What do you mean by that?
 
Stalling himself for a fictional narrative? What do you mean by that?
Being stuck on that one girl and that one bad-movie-trope illusion that if he just sticks around being nice, she'll eventually see the error of her ways and fall for him. Which is of course not how it works. Shit's random, son. The sooner you let go and move on the better.

It's not nice guys per se that finish last. Only guys with Nice Guy syndrome.
 
Being stuck on that one girl and that one bad-movie-trope illusion that if he just sticks around being nice, she'll eventually see the error of her ways and fall for him. Which is of course not how it works. Shit's random, son. The sooner you let go and move on the better.

It's not nice guys per se that finish last. Only guys with Nice Guy syndrome.
Okay, with that out of the way, how about the issue of women's entitlement? You said that was silly as well.
 
Okay, with that out of the way, how about the issue of women's entitlement? You said that was silly as well.

Yep. Women that makes a list (again often based on movie tropes) and dismiss men that don't check all the boxes. It's not a helathy way to go about it. Opt-put dealbreakers I can get. Opt-in criteria will only make you unhappy. It's not how it works. Shit's random, er... daughter. The sooner you let go and move on the better.

Another thing that is silly is to talk about those silly things as exclusively male or female. They're not. One behaviour is a bit more common for one gender and the other for the other, that's all. And emotionally stable and comfortably confident people of either gender does niether.
 
Females know whosa pansy and whosa stud. They don't want candyasses, and modern guys fall all over themselves to be more pansy than their friends. Modern guys believe the feminist baloney. Girls want guys who talk smack around other girls, then ball their brains out when mom aint looking.
 
Females know whosa pansy and whosa stud. They don't want candyasses, and modern guys fall all over themselves to be more pansy than their friends. Modern guys believe the feminist baloney. Girls want guys who talk smack around other girls, then ball their brains out when mom aint looking.

I don't understand the OP. It's something I'd expect from an old matchmaker, "Your eggs will expire soon".



BTW, JBJ, that is one adorable AV pic you've put up.
 
I don't understand the OP. It's something I'd expect from an old matchmaker, "Your eggs will expire soon".
It's about the fact that women feel entitled to be swept off their feet by a hero or a dashing dude. They only date ordinary men if they feel they have no other option.

Their sense of entitlement is as rigid and sexist as they accuse Nice Guys of being. Except unlike men, women don't feel they need to lift a finger to earn these kinds of men.
 
It's about the fact that women feel entitled to be swept off their feet by a hero or a dashing dude. They only date ordinary men if they feel they have no other option.

Their sense of entitlement is as rigid and sexist as they accuse Nice Guys of being. Except unlike men, women don't feel they need to lift a finger to earn these kinds of men.

Yeah, but love is a many strange and wondrous thing. You don't always get what you deserve. Sometimes you're blessed with something better... or may be it isn't really better but you feel like it is because you are so infatuated.

Some people settle for the first thing that comes alone, others are afraid of being alone and prefer to wait for the right match to come along.

Relationships are complex as is... don't try to make it into some kind of male vs female thing LJ.
 
I've known a lot of feminists in the past 40+ years (since I knew what it meant) and not a one didn't like strong, yet respectful and "nice", men, and didn't need those men to be their protector, hero and provider.
The women I've met who want heroes are not feminists, no matter what they call themselves.
Phyllis Schlafly, and her political descendents, managed to so demonize "feminist" that my impression is that very few people even know what it means anymore.
 
Pussy is always worth its price.

Oh, I have GOT to disagree here. Some ass just isn't worth the headache and misery you gotta deal with just for a chance to tap it, (edit) much less make anything lasting out of it.
 
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Oh, I have GOT to disagree here. Some ass just isn't worth the headache and misery you gotta deal with just for a chance to tap it, (edit) much less make anything lasting out of it.
Ding. We have a winner.
 
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