FAWC You, Two!

[xelliebabex]

I have read about 10 of the 17 so far and left a few anonymous comments. I didn't think it was fair to put my name on them for people who are trying to work out who is who. Though I guess like me we all think our own style is easy to pick.

My story is in the 2nd half of the group but after reading some really great entries I am fine with that (I feel dreadful having put in a badly edited piece after reading the ones i have so far where so much care has been taken) and I'm not worried at all about the views or exposure. I imagine the longer stories would get a lot more views simply for being long and people reading them in two or more views. It was meant just to be friendly and fun after all

Good luck to everyone, I will finish reading them all before voting closes and commenting when I feel the need.

 

[FAWCker]

In comparing the stats between the first FAWC and this one, there are definitely more comments, views, and votes this time around. A couple stories have upwards of eight comments, which is pretty hefty for the Chain Stories category. The majority of comments are also more honest than they are gushing praise (on most of the stories, at any rate). While several comments seem to be from other authors, quite a few strike me as coming from readers only. FAWC is slowly getting out there.

 

[sr71plt]

Comparing other stats at the moment, using the publicly accessible author's page and discounting the first, cheated story, this comparison comes up between FAWC stories that are listed as "new" on the Chain Stories page and those not listed:

Listed (9):

Average views: 1,154
Average rating: 4.0
Average comments: 3.1

Not Listed (7)

Average views: 1,300
Average rating: 3.90
Average comments: 3

Might point out that the story with the highest (significantly) views/rating/comments is in the Not Listed area.

If you want to include the cheated story, of course, the Listed area stats would be much higher than the Not Listed ones.

 

[LadyVer]

What's a "cheated" story?

 

[PennLady]

What's a "cheated" story?

One author submitted the incorrect version of their story initially, then had some trouble getting in touch with FAWCker and getting the proper version in, but it was in although slightly late.

 

[TE999]

One author submitted the incorrect version of their story initially, then had some trouble getting in touch with FAWCker and getting the proper version in, but it was in although slightly late.

How is that construed as 'cheating', exactly?

 

[LadyVer]

One author submitted the incorrect version of their story initially, then had some trouble getting in touch with FAWCker and getting the proper version in, but it was in although slightly late.

Ok..So, it's cheating to submit the wrong document and have communication probs? I read a few more of the stories. I'm curious to know who the authors are. I would think after the contest is over and the authors submit their stories under their own Lit profile, the stats will be better. I don't know who wrote Virtuoso and the bullfighting story but I enjoyed reading both.

 

[sr71plt]

One author submitted the incorrect version of their story initially, then had some trouble getting in touch with FAWCker and getting the proper version in, but it was in although slightly late.

Not quite. That author also telegraphed which story would be his--repeatedly--and obviously has advertised widely which one was his (even admitted on this thread that he had told others which one was his before they went up). And to erase any doubt the story twice has had a "convenient" anonymous identification to the author in the comments.

Beyond that, getting the story as run in after the deadline (shouldn't have been accepted right there, but he didn't do this through the exercise coordinator but directly through Laurel) put his story at the top of the New list as the last one Laurel processed. The experience of the last exercise is that the top story on the New list is extremely advantaged. Clever, no?

Within six hours after the story posted--eight Lit. pages, about 27,000 words--in the middle of the night in the U.S. zones, the story already had fourteen votes (with all of the other sixteen stories not having that combined). Yeah, sure, an anonymous story not distinguishable from any of the other entries, and humonguously long, is going to legitimately garner more votes than the rest together in the first six hours of posting at night in the U.S. Zone.

It's a blatantly author-identified campaigned story in what is supposed to be an anonymous exercise that isn't a version that should have been accepted to begin with.

That's the cheating. Blatantly manuevered and wholly outside the spirit of these exercises.

And that's the last that needs to be said about that.

 

[LadyVer]

I think there's more to this. Anyway, it will be interesting to see who the authors are.

 

[sr71plt]

I think there's more to this. Anyway, it will be interesting to see who the authors are.

And I think you're the guy's patsy and trying to stir the pot. You left a comment that it was great writing and claim to be an editor here. Would you like to see a properly edited version of that story?

Or maybe you could try editing it and we could compare notes and then you could think again on the "great writing" comment.

Perhaps you can just drop it and let something be salvaged from the original intent of this exercise. You don't have a story in the exercise and it's highly questionable what interest you have in the matter.

 

[LadyVer]

And I think you're the guy's patsy and trying to stir the pot. You left a comment that it was great writing and claim to be an editor here. Would you like to see a properly edited version of that story?

Or maybe you could try editing it and we could compare notes and then you could think again on the "great writing" comment.

Perhaps you can just drop it and let something be salvaged from the original intent of this exercise. You don't have a story in the exercise and it's highly questionable what interest you have in the matter.

Look, Pilot, I've read one of your stories. Like every other writer on Lit, you have errors in your submitted stories. I'm not trying to stir anything. What I have noticed is that you go out of your way to antagonize people and you have a big chip on your shoulder. I'm interested in Lit stories because I enjoy reading, I edit, and I'm interested in the contests. Let's clear the air further. Karma was, in my opinion, a great story. Did it have errors? Yes. But compared to some stories I've read on Lit, and some writers I've edited for, the errors in this story didn't bother me, mainly because the author knows how to write. I've already volunteered to edit for him. BFD.

 

[_Lynn_]

Look, Pilot, I've read one of your stories. Like every other writer on Lit, you have errors in your submitted stories. I'm not trying to stir anything. What I have noticed is that you go out of your way to antagonize people and you have a big chip on your shoulder. I'm interested in Lit stories because I enjoy reading, I edit, and I'm interested in the contests. Let's clear the air further. Karma was, in my opinion, a great story. Did it have errors? Yes. But compared to some stories I've read on Lit, and some writers I've edited for, the errors in this story didn't bother me, mainly because the author knows how to write. I've already volunteered to edit for him. BFD.

Ah, so you know who wrote it. In a challenge where authors aren't named.

 

[sr71plt]

Everyone has errors in their stories. I'm reading an Anne Perry now (Hanover Close) where she has characters in one room in a chapter and in the next chapter they've somehow appeared in a different room on a different floor of the house (while a character is still out in a feint).

But there are the occasional errors and there is the editorial mess.

And apparently by your own comment on that story, you can't tell the difference--but claim to be able to edit the stories of other folks here. Hmmmmm.

As I said, you're just a shill for the guy. You guys will try anything here to play your games.

Gonna ignore you now. This is trying to be a friendly writing exercise.

 

[LadyVer]

Ah, so you know who wrote it. In a challenge where authors aren't named.

It's kind of hard not to know who wrote it if you've read his other Lit stories. And it was in the top of the new story list. I'm more curious about who wrote the other stories. The other two stories I mentioned I rated a 5.

 

[LadyVer]

Everyone has errors in their stories. I'm reading an Anne Perry now (Hanover Close) where she has characters in one room in a chapter and in the next chapter they've somehow appeared in a different room on a different floor of the house (while a character is still out in a feint).

But there are the occasional errors and there is the editorial mess.

And apparently by your own comment on that story, you can't tell the difference--but claim to be able to edit the stories of other folks here. Hmmmmm.

As I said, you're just a shill for the guy. You guys will try anything here to play your games.

Gonna ignore you now. This is trying to be a friendly writing exercise.

Pilot, you're entitled to your opinion. As usual, we disagree.

 

[sr71plt]

It's kind of hard not to know who wrote it if you've read his other Lit stories. And it was in the top of the new story list. I'm more curious about who wrote the other stories. The other two stories I mentioned I rated a 5.

Don't be stupid. He told us in so many words on this thread which story he wrote. And I've already posted on that. He made doubly sure we knew--with a play on words. His competitiveness is overweaning. He has insulted everyone else in the exercise.

And sent you in to carry water for him.

 

[LadyVer]

Don't be stupid. He told us in so many words on this thread which story he wrote. And I've already posted on that.

I see. I'm stupid because I don't see things your way. Interesting. Ad hominem by a writer to the market.

Anyway, to Fawker, great contest again. I always enjoy reading good stories..Keep up the good work!

 

[_Lynn_]

Back to the challenge itself . . .

I still have a few more stories to read before people start guessing who wrote them. Not tonight, though.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Looks like we know whose stories aren't doing as well as expected.

 

[PennLady]

Back to the challenge itself . . .

I still have a few more stories to read before people start guessing who wrote them. Not tonight, though.

I'd like to read more of them myself. I can't guess, though. I read so little on the site these days I'd have no clue of anyone's style or anything. Which doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy the stories just that I can't guess.

 

[_Lynn_]

I'd like to read more of them myself. I can't guess, though. I read so little on the site these days I'd have no clue of anyone's style or anything. Which doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy the stories just that I can't guess.

I can look at the computer screen just so long before my eyes bother me. If I read anything on Lit, then I have less time for writing or editing. So it becomes a matter of priority.

 

[FAWCker]

Back to the challenge itself . . .

I still have a few more stories to read before people start guessing who wrote them. Not tonight, though.

I'd like to read more of them myself. I can't guess, though. I read so little on the site these days I'd have no clue of anyone's style or anything. Which doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy the stories just that I can't guess.

We have until the sixteenth before I announce the winner, so there's time yet.

 

[damppanties]

We have until the sixteenth before I announce the winner, so there's time yet.

When does the voting close though? I must admit I'm looking forward more to discussing the stories than the winner being announced.

Read about half the stories at this point. And yes, I don't much feel like reading on the computer screen either so now I've started reading on my phone while in bed.

 

[PennLady]

I can look at the computer screen just so long before my eyes bother me. If I read anything on Lit, then I have less time for writing or editing. So it becomes a matter of priority.

Yep, there's that, too.

 

[patientlee]

When does the voting close though? I must admit I'm looking forward more to discussing the stories than the winner being announced.

Read about half the stories at this point. And yes, I don't much feel like reading on the computer screen either so now I've started reading on my phone while in bed.

I want to discuss the use (or lack of use) of basket contents. Can't wait until it's done!