Fat Perceptions.

[English Lady]

Deal!

Might be his lucky day, as I don't go anywhere without the blonde.



~lucky

Oh goody!

 

[cloudy]

Or when they say 34 D boobs are big!

That's not big????

Oh.

I feel woefully underdeveloped, now.

 

[English Lady]

That's not big????

Oh.

I feel woefully underdeveloped, now.

well not from my 44 DD perspective anyways...


but size isn't everything -I bet your boobs are just fine Cloudy love!

 

[rgraham666]

I've got two stories posted and one in the pipe line that have a woman who doesn't fit into the modern media mould of beautiful.

Although I do describe my characters fairly well, I purposely use characters that aren't perfect. Perfection is really fucking boring.

 

[rgraham666]

well not from my 44 DD perspective anyways...


but size isn't everything -I bet your boobs are just fine Cloudy love!

If they're half as lovely as her ass, I would say they are more than fine.

 

[LadyJeanne]

I've got two stories posted and one in the pipe line that have a woman who doesn't fit into the modern media mould of beautiful.

Although I do describe my characters fairly well, I purposely use characters that aren't perfect. Perfection is really fucking boring.

That's a really good point. My eyes tend to glaze over when an author goes on and on about her perfect breasts or his perfect abs or whatever. If I get to a paragraph that is all description of perfection, I skip it. Boring.

 

[English Lady]

I've got two stories posted and one in the pipe line that have a woman who doesn't fit into the modern media mould of beautiful.

Although I do describe my characters fairly well, I purposely use characters that aren't perfect. Perfection is really fucking boring.

you're so right. Like Lady Jeanne I get bored of those "perfect"characters too.

 

[EmeraldKitten]

Everyone has different definitions of 'fat', 'chubby', 'skinny', etc.

I joke and call myself fat all the time, but I'm not morbidly obese by any means.

People that are 'fat' in my opion, are the ones that are so overweight they aren't healthy.
Actually, I don't like using the 'f' word to describe anyone, because that is my own perception, not the world's definition.

As far as characters go, it depends. Not all the women and men in my stories are perfect.
Even if I start out with a non-perfect character, they usually turn out to be because I'm fond of them, lol.

I'm a chubby girl, and people have referred to me as the 'bigger girl' and things like that.

In fact, the other day at work, I answered the phone and the woman wanted to make an appointment with me, but couldn't recall my name. So I rambled off a list of the girls, and she said, 'Oh I don't remeber. She's the one on the Cosmetology side that is slightly obese."
LMFAO! Slightly obese. There's a new one, lol.

 

[Guest]

An odd thought just now: think of Shakespeare's characters. There are few with any particular descriptions (e.g., RIII, Falstaff, Caliban). Imagine the myriad perceptions of all the dramatis personae through the centuries. Be pretty boring if we were stuck with what Lady Macbeth or Hamlet really looked like. I'm sure just a century or two ago Juliet was not a Hollywood or model type. I've yet to settle on 'my' Cleopatra or Antony, even though I know their ethnic origins.

Perdita

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Well, I'm not "morbidly" obese, but I know the average person would probably consider me fat (of course, I consider myself that way.) It's amazing how perception changes through time. Back in Marilyn Monroe's day, you had to have some meat on your bones to be considered a sex symbol. Now, you need to look like a twig.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Well, I'm not "morbidly" obese, but I know the average person would probably consider me fat (of course, I consider myself that way.) It's amazing how perception changes through time. Back in Marilyn Monroe's day, you had to have some meat on your bones to be considered a sex symbol. Now, you need to look like a twig.

Eatrh to Crim, you aren't fat.

*HUGS*

 

[matriarch]

Well, I'm not "morbidly" obese, but I know the average person would probably consider me fat (of course, I consider myself that way.) It's amazing how perception changes through time. Back in Marilyn Monroe's day, you had to have some meat on your bones to be considered a sex symbol. Now, you need to look like a twig.

I have a horrible feeling I'm going to regret posting on here, I've so far managed to resist the impulse to contribute any meaningful input to this thread, but, I'm with you Crim. I know what I see in the mirror, and I know what size clothes I have to buy, and I know the humiliation of asking for an item of clothing in a shop, and being told by a haughty and slightly disgusted sales assistant the size of a breadstick that "Oh, we don't make our clothes in those sizes. You need Evans ('larger' women's chain store)for those sizes."

With that sort of response, its no wonder 'larger' women have the perception of themselves that they do. Its very hard not to when one is constantly bombarded with pictures of so-called perfection. And if you are also a 'vertically challenged' person....well, you've had it. You don't belong to the human race any more.

 

[English Lady]

I knew this wouls strike a chord in people.


I know the shame of walking into a fashionable shop and feeling the eyes of the skinny rib assistants upon my body. I was at a shopping outlet village with my sister just yesterday. My sister is a size 14 and so we went in many shops i'd not look in otherwise. I felt uncomfortable in them.

Why should we? Why is it that anyone over a size 16 or so has to go to shops who cater for " bigger sizes"? I felt fat and silly and uncomfortable walking into those shops. Then I felt angry at myself for feeling that.


The media does have alot to answer for.

Beauty is not in a certain size. Every person is beautiful in their own personal way.

it doesn't seem the media can deal with that though, they like to put us into easy dentified groups instead of thinking of fols as individual persons.

 

[she_is_my_addiction]

I enjoy all types of women, but I have a friend who's 5'1 and 200some pounds. She's an all around leather and motorcycle babe, and I think she's sexy as hell.

 

[matriarch]

I enjoy all types of women, but I have a friend who's 5'1 and 200some pounds. She's an all around leather and motorcycle babe, and I think she's sexy as hell.

*grin*. I can see I must get a motorbike and leathers.....would that be michelin tyre castoffs for those....????

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

Eatrh to Crim, you aren't fat.

*HUGS*

By social standards... yeah I am. You only saw my boobs in a bra and my butt in panties, you didn't get the whole picture.I wear a plus size (and not the first one, a couple of sizes into plus). Most people who don't wear plus sizes think those that do are fat. It's a simple fact of life.

I've never been small, and I don't really want to be skinny. I'd just like to be a 14... maybe one of these days.

to Colly, thanks

 

[she_is_my_addiction]

*grin*. I can see I must get a motorbike and leathers.....would that be michelin tyre castoffs for those....????

 

[Colleen Thomas]

By social standards... yeah I am. You only saw my boobs in a bra and my butt in panties, you didn't get the whole picture.I wear a plus size (and not the first one, a couple of sizes into plus). Most people who don't wear plus sizes think those that do are fat. It's a simple fact of life.

I've never been small, and I don't really want to be skinny. I'd just like to be a 14... maybe one of these days.

to Colly, thanks

Societal standards suck big hairy moose cock.

If they make women as beautiful as yourself, mats and El feel bad then that goes double.

The only standards I pay any attention to are my own where physical beauty is conserned. I've seen enough pics of the three of you to say without doubt you aren't fat by my standards, In fact you are all lovely. As to society's standards. Society can kiss my ass on this one.

 

[English Lady]

By social standards I am fat.

by my own drandards I am curvy and sexy.


It's all about what youthink of yourself I think. If you're unhappy about yourself you'll be more inclined to go with societies judgement of yourself.


Which sucks really.

 

[English Lady]

Societal standards suck big hairy moose cock.

If they make women as beautiful as yourself, mats and El feel bad then that goes double.

The only standards I pay any attention to are my own where physical beauty is conserned. I've seen enough pics of the three of you to say without doubt you aren't fat by my standards, In fact you are all lovely. As to society's standards. Society can kiss my ass on this one.

Thank you Colly!

That is good to hear. And I agree.


Societal standards suck big hairy moose cock.

 

[cloudy]

If they're half as lovely as her ass, I would say they are more than fine.

thanks, Rob

 

[lucky-E-leven]

I know the shame of walking into a fashionable shop and feeling the eyes of the skinny rib assistants upon my body. I was at a shopping outlet village with my sister just yesterday. My sister is a size 14 and so we went in many shops i'd not look in otherwise. I felt uncomfortable in them.

Why should we? Why is it that anyone over a size 16 or so has to go to shops who cater for " bigger sizes"? I felt fat and silly and uncomfortable walking into those shops. Then I felt angry at myself for feeling that.

Along the same lines, I entered an outlet store for plus-size women's clothing and was treated like dirt. The moment I hit the carpet the saleswoman descended upon me and alerted me to the fact that I was on the wrong section of the store. I'd been sized up immediately and scorned, though I wasn't shopping for myself anyway. It seems my presence and want to purchase something there that wasn't for me was an affront to them. I was a little ticked, but went right ahead shopping, making that particularly nasty clerk help me all the while and then I checked out with another one who inevitably got the commission.

I think how I feel about a person is based largely on their attitude. She was suddenly very unappealing to me, simply because she had judged me and done so very rudely.

~lucky

 

[English Lady]

Along the same lines, I entered an outlet store for plus-size women's clothing and was treated like dirt. The moment I hit the carpet the saleswoman descended upon me and alerted me to the fact that I was on the wrong section of the store. I'd been sized up immediately and scorned, though I wasn't shopping for myself anyway. It seems my presence and want to purchase something there that wasn't for me was an affront to them. I was a little ticked, but went right ahead shopping, making that particularly nasty clerk help me all the while and then I checked out with another one who inevitably got the commission.

I think how I feel about a person is based largely on their attitude. She was suddenly very unappealing to me, simply because she had judged me and done so very rudely.

~lucky

the problem comes when people are judged and also when they're segregated.

ridiculous how quick people are to judge.

 

[impressive]

Societal standards suck big hairy moose cock.

But the moose is happy.

It's all relative, anyhow (and not in an incestual way). I grew up always thinking I was "fat" simply because I'm tall (5'8") and have a large frame. Plus, the coconuts are hefty and the hips are curvy. So no matter how much I dieted or exercised, I just wasn't gonna get any smaller than a size 12. Once, I did manage to starve myself into a size 10 (if I didn't breathe), but I looked downright anorexic. My basketball coach actually referred me to the school nurse/counselor.

I know I've looked better than I do right now -- for age reasons, if nothing else -- but I've never FELT better. I feel sexier than ever before and I'm lovin' it. The visual isn't my primary sense -- and I've learned to trust that it isn't many others' either.

When I think about having sex in my late teens/early twenties, I have memories of always worrying how I was perceived visually. I think it really hampers one's enjoyment. Sex didn't become super enjoyable until I shed that neurosis. In other words, LOOKING "hot" (per those big hairy moose cock sucking societal standards) does NOT equate to BEING "hot."

 

[matriarch]

Societal standards suck big hairy moose cock.

If they make women as beautiful as yourself, mats and El feel bad then that goes double.

The only standards I pay any attention to are my own where physical beauty is conserned. I've seen enough pics of the three of you to say without doubt you aren't fat by my standards, In fact you are all lovely. As to society's standards. Society can kiss my ass on this one.

You are one beautiful woman........but then we already know that.

Thank you darling for that lovely accolade.