Fake Doms & subs

[Rick DeVille]

I’ve watched and observed- let’s face it, some of this shit is pretty funny but I see a lot of so called Doms and subs who are just smoke and mirrors, a little pretence.

Pretend folk, you are all very amusing.

 

[A Desert Rose]

I see you are proud of your arrogance and pomposity. I also why you don't come around here much. You are basically ignored.

Rose

 

[Rick DeVille]

I see you are proud of your arrogance and pomposity. I also why you don't come around here much. You are basically ignored.

Rose

Not bad but basically a petulant response.

A response nevertheless, I didn't expect or want any response.

I was just stating a fact.

 

[Guest]

 

[WillowPuss]

I’ve watched and observed- let’s face it, some of this shit is pretty funny but I see a lot of so called Doms and subs who are just smoke and mirrors, a little pretence.

Pretend folk, you are all very amusing.

Mr DeVille ... I agree with you.

However, I just find it really sad.

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Fake Doms & subs

 

[Rick DeVille]

Re: Re: Fake Doms & subs

Mr DeVille ... I agree with you.

However, I just find it really sad.

I also agree

 

[quietwillow]

I agree with you Mr DeVille. If we had a dime for every one of the type folks you are talking about....

and for as much as it is worth I find it sadly increasing as the internet grows.... and what does this do for the RT BDSM community..... imho it makes it more difficult to show the world what real BDSM is all about.

quiet

 

[spankableBelle]

I’ve watched and observed- let’s face it, some of this shit is pretty funny but I see a lot of so called Doms and subs who are just smoke and mirrors, a little pretence.

Pretend folk, you are all very amusing.

It's all a shame really. For every genuine person there are a handful of players. It completely reeks of disrespect for the lifestyle and those in it and those trying to, with sincerity, understand themselves and their desires to explore and experience it.

Hello, Rick...nice to see you again.

belle

 

[Rick DeVille]

Domination is a soft and subtle art of control, there is no need to bellow.

And subs who talk about taking control just make me chuckle because they don't relish submission.

It's an interesting life

 

[MissTaken]

Ya but...

Ya but....

I really dont' care who is pretending or not if they could execute some simple respect and manners.


As for me, respect is a huge part of BDSM.....


I need not say more.

 

[quietwillow]

Domination is a soft and subtle art of control, there is no need to bellow.

And subs who talk about taking control just make me chuckle because they don't relish submission.

Mr Deville, I admire the truth that you so eloquently post about.


As a submissive, I do not want control....never have and never will. While some may take this as being a game and I have been duly chastised at times by folks (not on this board) for being so willing to give myself over to my Dominant... but I just laugh and think they have no clue!

Your posts are very refreshing, thank you for this thread!

quiet

 

[quietwillow]

As for me, respect is a huge part of BDSM.....

MissTaken respect IS so essentially important in BDSM it goes right along up there with trust and truth...imho

quiet

 

[Lancecastor]

Agreed, there is all too often a simple lack of respect for freedom of speech here.....as if there is a heirarchy of posters and flavours chart somewhere.

Truth is also often sadly lacking here. I get PM's from people who say one thing in private, then post the opposite; people will dance around what they really want to say here all the time. How many threads have you seen started where the thread starter reveals the "real" details after 10-20 people have taken a piece of themselves and put it on the table, for example?

And as for trust, well, people talk about it here all the time....but at the first sign of divergence from their p.o.v., everything about you is called into disrepute and the bad words are trotted out.

Where is the courage to speak one's mind rather than play "join the herd"?

And where is the joy? The tenderness that is spoken of here so often?

It takes more than *hugs* to produce real rapport; it takes more than not rocking the boat to produce a meeting of the minds.

A guy like Rick blows back in here after being on the GB for a time, and suggests that somehow his "BDSM Kung-Fu is more powerful" than that of others.....suggesting he is superior to the "newer" people here.....while simultaneously saying that "quiet" doms are inherently superior. Yada yada yada.

His logic concludes that "quiet" subs are superior as well, by the way.

If Rick...or Cym...or anyone....is setting the Standards for BDSM Behavior....if we need to report to them to get our "papers"....okay, show me where to go take the test.

Ha!

Rick, your arguments are specious.

And the internet is spacious.

Cheers;
Lance

MissTaken respect IS so essentially important in BDSM it goes right along up there with trust and truth...imho

quiet

 

[Guest]

 

[Lancecastor]

Fluffy

Yes, I have drawn conclusions from his statements of "fact".

My conclusion is that he came over/was asked over from the GB to do some flaming.

You are welcome to your conclusions as well, of course.

But I'd rather you stuck to fluffing....you're better at it.

Ha!

Lance

Where does He say that?


Don't be blamin' Rick for your powers of deduction.

That's the "logical" conclusion you have drawn from His statement.

Given that i'm far from quiet, it's also an erroneous conclusion.

 

[Guest]

Re: Fluffy

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Re: Fluffy

Your guess is as good as mine.

Later;
L

I'll hazard a guess that conclusion is erroneous as well.

foxy "fluffy on-line pillow princess" soxy.

x 12

hugz to u all.

 

[RisiaSkye]

I’ve watched and observed- let’s face it, some of this shit is pretty funny but I see a lot of so called Doms and subs who are just smoke and mirrors, a little pretence.

Pretend folk, you are all very amusing.

Amusing isn't the word I'd use, but I hear you nonetheless.

Welcome back, Rick.

 

[Sandia]

I’ve watched and observed- let’s face it, some of this shit is pretty funny but I see a lot of so called Doms and subs who are just smoke and mirrors, a little pretence.

Pretend folk, you are all very amusing.

Rick, who are you talking about?

 

[~Dream~]

you are entitled to your opinions Rick

once again ,another great thread,thank-you
I am quite sure that there ARE those out there who "measure' me and my submissiveness" by "their own" standards.
I truly have no problem with that except for the FACT that everyone's standards are'different.."nobody is perfect all of the time,well actually .. never.
I have been truthfully struggling with my submissiveness,because I am a quite strong,willfull creature,however one that Artful has willingly accepted to "train" as His slave and this is NOT a "game" to me anyways,it's part of my everyday very REAL life..
Have I made mistakes? sure I have , that's all part of the "learning process.
I agree with Miss T .that we should all show each other respect,no mater what and at the very least ,good manners,sometimes I, myself have not done that lately but that is soon to change.I had a very good long ,phone conversation last night with Master,and after taking the "time" to let it all sink in and hearing the "sincerity in His voice", I came to the very REAL conclusion ,that submit I must,Always.. that Control" word,thing, power,whatever,just ISNT for me at all!!I am no longer 'comfortable" being in control and it was so REAL and hard to give it up that I actually thought i was gonna have a nervous breakdown,I am being serious & honest here.
After "releasing my stronghold tho,I felt exactly how a new mother feels after she has went through all the painful labor and at last has her precious baby in her arms..that's my story and I'm sticking to it..
thanks and sorry for the long post Rick..

 

[rosco rathbone]

giggle

".....try my Tiger Style....."


"...A guy like Rick blows back in here after being on the GB for a time, and suggests that somehow his "BDSM Kung-Fu is more powerful" than that of others.....suggesting he is superior to the "newer" people here.....while simultaneously saying that "quiet" doms are inherently superior. Yada yada yada....."

"You mean he yada yada yada'ed Sexual Kung Fu!?...."

I think you and Rick are both a couple of jokers, but your style of joking makes me giggle. Fuck that warmth shit, let's have a who-is-the-old-school-real-dombinant-master pissing match. Maybe they could clone one of the old homo leather boys in the patent leather rebel soldier forage caps and then manipulate Gene 3-A so as to make him come out straight. They could call him the Recombinant Dombinant. I keep hearin about how real men are hard to find. Genetics holds the answer!

rosco

 

[Sandia]

Not bad but basically a petulant response.

A response nevertheless, I didn't expect or want any response.

I was just stating a fact.

Seems like an arrogant ad hominem attack to me.

 

[lovetoread]

Re: giggle

let's have a who-is-the-old-school-real-dombinant-master pissing match.

rosco

What a show that would be.

 

[zipman]

Re: you are entitled to your opinions Rick

once again ,another great thread,thank-you
I am quite sure that there ARE those out there who "measure' me and my submissiveness" by "their own" standards.
<snip>
I have been truthfully struggling with my submissiveness,because I am a quite strong,willfull creature,however one that Artful has willingly accepted to "train" as His slave and this is NOT a "game" to me anyways,it's part of my everyday very REAL life..
<snip>
I had a very good long ,phone conversation last night with Master,and after taking the "time" to let it all sink in and hearing the "sincerity in His voice", I came to the very REAL conclusion ,that submit I must,Always..
<snip>

Dream,

This post illustrates why some people have questioned your submissiveness. To most people involved in this lifestyle, no sub would ever accept a collar if they hadn't already come to the
"very REAL conclusion ,that submit I must." This would always be done before a collar would be offered or accepted. To someone who is seriously dedicated to this lifestyle, the comment you made above would be insulting, as they might think that you are merely playing roles, and do not understand the enormity of what a collar means. I have been into BDSM for years and have never offered a collar to anyone.

This is not a flame, but another attempt to help you understand why your posts have made people question your submisiveness and why it may have actually offended some people.