Everyone is not the same

Klyle06

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I don't understand, why do people get so worked up in this whole ethnical, racial, prejudice bull... So what people are different... just think not everybody is you... not everybody can be rich... no two people are exactly alike so what. The only point i have is why do people still kill each other because of difference. Can anyone make sense of this?
 
People fear what they do not know or understand. A primative reaction to fear is violence against what sparks the fear.
 
yes, i see but why don't more people put fear to rest by trying to figure out and understand the otherside of their fellow humans rather than attack them... physically, mentally, emotionally, and/or spirtually.
 
I don't know but it is the single most thing that angers me to the point of rage.

I remember reading some behavioral science books, listening to documentaries etc. about the effects of war on children. It talked about Northern Ireland, MidEast, etc., places where war is chronic and each generation has been brought up in war. They did MRI's and other medical tests on the brains of children in those areas. There brains were different then other children in non war homes.

It's sad to say the least. Hate breeds hate. I was very fortunate to have parents that not only were tolerant of all races, creeds etc but went the extra step and made sure we understood and were sensitive to all people.

As an adult I don't understand it even more... instead of what makes us different in focus on what makes us the same. Flesh, blood and emotion, eg. human.
 
can sense be easily made for ANY killing?

the only thing i'd add to this is that the whole concept of "hate crimes" baffles me. i don't think a person is any more dead if they're killed by someone of a different race, religion or sexual preference. i think it downplays a "conventional" murder... neither victim is more or less important and neither murderer is more or less guilty. it's a murder. period.
 
EJFan said:
the only thing i'd add to this is that the whole concept of "hate crimes" baffles me. i don't think a person is any more dead if they're killed by someone of a different race, religion or sexual preference.
I agree.
 
Klyle06 said:
I don't understand, why do people get so worked up in this whole ethnical, racial, prejudice bull... So what people are different... just think not everybody is you... not everybody can be rich... no two people are exactly alike so what. The only point i have is why do people still kill each other because of difference. Can anyone make sense of this?
I;ve seen a lot of profound statements on this bored, but this one really hits home. I assume that this is in response, among other things, to the latest violence in Iraq. It's true, this is a primitive reaction to a fear of anything different, but does that make it right? At what point do we evolve far enough to control our instinctive urges to kill all those who are different us? I thought we were supposed to be civilized. :cool:
 
I think a lot of it has to do with trying to find someone to be better than.

Think To Kill A Mockingbird: It was the poor whites who hated the black people the most - because they needed someone to be "better than."

I strongly believe that if we weren't so classist, it would also help eliminate racism.
 
TBKahuna123 said:
I;ve seen a lot of profound statements on this bored, but this one really hits home. I assume that this is in response, among other things, to the latest violence in Iraq. It's true, this is a primitive reaction to a fear of anything different, but does that make it right? At what point do we evolve far enough to control our instinctive urges to kill all those who are different us? I thought we were supposed to be civilized. :cool:

Well we are "civilized", but we are not in Iraq to kill people, now, we are their to protect and render aid. I completely agree with the 'War on Terror' but the media tends to only portray only the negitive sides of the story...because (and it hurts me to say) violence sells aswell as the other sins.
 
EJFan said:
can sense be easily made for ANY killing?

the only thing i'd add to this is that the whole concept of "hate crimes" baffles me. i don't think a person is any more dead if they're killed by someone of a different race, religion or sexual preference. i think it downplays a "conventional" murder... neither victim is more or less important and neither murderer is more or less guilty. it's a murder. period.

True, but all murders need a motive, which happen to be (sometimes) differences.
 
Klyle06 said:
True, but all murders need a motive, which happen to be (sometimes) differences.
True, but if someone commits assault or murder, the motive should be irrelevant. Assault and murder are crimes whether they're motivated by passion, hate, curiosity, boredom, etc. One could argue that all of these acts are acts of hate.

I don't see any reason to create a special designation for hate crimes; these acts should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of the motive.
 
Eilan said:
True, but if someone commits assault or murder, the motive should be irrelevant. Assault and murder are crimes whether they're motivated by passion, hate, curiosity, boredom, etc. One could argue that all of these acts are acts of hate.

I don't see any reason to create a special designation for hate crimes; these acts should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of the motive.

I agree, i was just pointing out that there has to be some kind of logic to their crimes
 
Klyle06 said:
Well we are "civilized", but we are not in Iraq to kill people, now, we are their to protect and render aid. I completely agree with the 'War on Terror' but the media tends to only portray only the negitive sides of the story...because (and it hurts me to say) violence sells aswell as the other sins.

While I agree, I wasn't referring to us in Iraq, I was refering to the the possibility of a Shiite/Sunni civil war amongst the Iraqis. It's not unlike the violence between Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants of a a while back.
 
TBKahuna123 said:
While I agree, I wasn't referring to us in Iraq, I was refering to the the possibility of a Shiite/Sunni civil war amongst the Iraqis. It's not unlike the violence between Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants of a a while back.

Ohhh ok sorry. Thanks anyway.
 
EJFan said:
can sense be easily made for ANY killing?

the only thing i'd add to this is that the whole concept of "hate crimes" baffles me. i don't think a person is any more dead if they're killed by someone of a different race, religion or sexual preference. i think it downplays a "conventional" murder... neither victim is more or less important and neither murderer is more or less guilty. it's a murder. period.

Yes. This parsing of murder is sheer bigotry at its essence, and a conceptually bankrupt notion. Hate crimes trivialize premeditated killing.
 
Programmer Cat said:
I can easily justify tyrannicide (killing tyrants).

That is all well and good, as long as you don't become tyranical about it!
 
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