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[Nazgul1716]

This is AiI

 

[WittyUserName]

I mean, it even admits to inventing facts. So it may have invented that one.

 

[Nazgul1716]

AI can do anything, but what about our so called people in power, who have the right to publish stories, what's their reason for delaying someone's hard work, just blaming AI..might as well put in a new section, AI generated stories. At the end of the day it's reading erotic stories under this site,

 

[WittyUserName]

AI can do anything, but what about our so called people in power, who have the right to publish stories, what's their reason for delaying someone's hard work, just blaming AI..might as well put in a new section, AI generated stories. At the end of the day it's reading erotic stories under this site,

AI definitely can't do anything. There's a lot of things it sucks at. It's repetitive, it can't write believable dialogue(in my opinion).

Some sites do allow AI written work as long as it is categorized as such. The owners of this site have the choice what they allow or don't. And they don't want any AI(which I agree with, by the way).

I'm actually waiting on a publishing date for a story from a couple weeks ago, so I get the frustration there.

Also, even if they did have an AI section, would you want them to put your hard work there if it wasn't AI? I'd rather they just deny it than to publish it and dictate that I used AI.

 

[Nazgul1716]

The fact is that things are just getting delayed, if I have to see something go into a different section, it's fine as I need to move onto other works, I'm happy that I published 36;stories in a year, but disappointed that things have been so different on this site

 

[WittyUserName]

The fact is that things are just getting delayed, if I have to see something go into a different section, it's fine as I need to move onto other works, I'm happy that I published 36;stories in a year, but disappointed that things have been so different on this site

Some stories are getting delayed. I submitted a story on 5/24. Still waiting on a posting date. I submitted another an hour ago. It has a posting date already. Weird.

 

[BackNForth69]

I think certain things are delayed, love the new initiative about story contests but still may question the voting as certain people have proven that they have a majority, maybe a new language option..

 

[KittyOfSteele]

"...some Literotica authors absolutely use AI to fact-check."

Whether it is wrong or not matters not, but I can say you could change "Literotica" for any platform whatsoever, no matter their AI policy, or maybe put the name of an author who's been dead since before 2019, and there's a certainty the AI Google uses for web search will spit out that assumption.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Why is there a Bot on a thread about Bots?

 

[BackNForth69]

Literoctica, should be a site for viewer's, not authors, maybe stop this fact checking about AI and other grammer and let people enjoy the stories..this site was created decades back, and it should just be about stories, let people vote or comment openly to the author of the story, not the other way around where the author has to beg for his work to be published.

 

[Nazgul1716]

"...some Literotica authors absolutely use AI to fact-check."

Whether it is wrong or not matters not, but I can say you could change "Literotica" for any platform whatsoever, no matter their AI policy, or maybe put the name of an author who's been dead since before 2019, and there's a certainty the AI Google uses for web search will spit out that assumption.

I'm sure Google AI too will would give you a different answer, the point of using AI is about asking a question, if you still need AI to write a story or fact check a story, you need to ask the question, so who should be called out The person asking a question to fact check things or the person creating a story.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

I'm sure Google AI too will would give you a different answer, the point of using AI is about asking a question, if you still need AI to write a story or fact check a story, you need to ask the question, so who should be called out The person asking a question to fact check things or the person creating a story.

What's your point, really? Are you trying to equate using AI for research as using AI to write a story? Because while relying on AI for research is lazy at best and ignorant at worst, it's still different than having some computer in the middle of nowhere beeping and booping you an erotica for the price of 0.3 months of a World of Warcraft subscription per token.

 

[Nazgul1716]

What's your point, really? Are you trying to equate using AI for research as using AI to write a story? Because while relying on AI for research is lazy at best and ignorant at worst, it's still different than having some computer in the middle of nowhere beeping and booping you an erotica for the price of 0.3 months of a World of Warcraft subscription per token.

I'm suggesting to make a new category AI. Let people who want to use AI write their stuff, so that others don't suffer from delays, when clearly most of the admins are using AI to fact check things and still unable to decide things.. Certain people are obsessed in winning and getting maximum votes, but there are users who want what's simple and clear erotic stories, the delays cause hindrance to that satisfaction. (I'm sure you will be more confused, but I don't even care about that fact)..

 

[Stanfield2025]

I'm suggesting to make a new category AI. Let people who want to use AI write their stuff, so that others don't suffer from delays, when clearly most of the admins are using AI to fact check things and still unable to decide things.. Certain people are obsessed in winning and getting maximum votes, but there are users who want what's simple and clear erotic stories, the delays cause hindrance to that satisfaction. (I'm sure you will be more confused, but I don't even care about that fact)..

The issue with this plan is that, knowing how this site fucks things up, non-AI stories will be chucked in the AI section. And that's a whole new problem. The AI section would probably have less readership. Besides that, I wouldn't want my non-AI story to be put in the AI section. Would you?

 

[KittyOfSteele]

I'm suggesting to make a new category AI. Let people who want to use AI write their stuff, so that others don't suffer from delays, when clearly most of the admins are using AI to fact check things and still unable to decide things.. Certain people are obsessed in winning and getting maximum votes, but there are users who want what's simple and clear erotic stories, the delays cause hindrance to that satisfaction. (I'm sure you will be more confused, but I don't even care about that fact)..

I agree. Hell, I criticized it myself: everybody except one (two if we count me in this) is obsessed with the voting metrics, it actually managed to hurt my momentum when it comes to writing. It's quite discouraging to be in a community of authors who seem to think that exposure can buy you a burger, but I'm aware enough to realize AH isn't the only community like this. The entire industry of content is built around virality instead of the only metric that's actually honest: money.

I agree. People want simple and clear erotica, and I already explained it on that very same thread that a lot of the things that are constantly discussed and recommended here are dogmatic, and must always be taken into question, if not accepted with five tablespoons of rock salt, and black pepper to taste. I would love to follow that, but the problem is that I stopped because simple and clear erotica means writing the same story over and over and over again, and I'm too ADHD to do that repetitive work. There's a reason why I put most of my old work into a list that called it "Legacy" instead of deleting it: I don't hate it, but I am bored of it.

However, making a whole new category on the site for AI stories will not solve these issues, but rather create more issues, and honestly, if Lit does that, I'd just delete everything, pack my things, and set my course to el quinto coño. Is not even my work being miscategorized as AI as I haven't dealt with an AI rejection so far, and I don't plan to because I don't use AI on my writing, but people who read AI generated stuff don't realize it is written by AI until said "author" is exposed. People who want to read AI generated stuff go to the AI generator to generate it themselves.

Besides, making a category for AI has been suggested before IIRC, and it was obviously as well received as you'd expect, and quite frankly, I'm glad it is one of the things that I agree with AH. If you know a language, you can write a story. Writing is the art that has the lowest barrier of entry as all you need is a pencil, a piece of paper, and a language. The amount of time you can spend perfecting prompts can actually be better used by actually writing the thing in the first place.

 

[Stanfield2025]

I agree. Hell, I criticized it myself: everybody except one (two if we count me in this) is obsessed with the voting metrics, it actually managed to hurt my momentum when it comes to writing.

I'm curious, how did it hurt your momentum?

 

[SmilingLez]

I'm suggesting to make a new category AI. Let people who want to use AI write their stuff, so that others don't suffer from delays, when clearly most of the admins are using AI to fact check things and still unable to decide things.. Certain people are obsessed in winning and getting maximum votes, but there are users who want what's simple and clear erotic stories, the delays cause hindrance to that satisfaction. (I'm sure you will be more confused, but I don't even care about that fact)..

You do understand that the back end of Literotica is slowly crumbling (the database and CMS are antiquated, about 27 years old) . Adding any new categories could result in the whole site imploding.

Imagine trying to play an MP3 (on an sd card) on a 386 PC. Can't be done.

As always, my opinion and YMMV

 

[KittyOfSteele]

I'm curious, how did it hurt your momentum?

Unconsciously I started to follow the manual™and ended up so frustrated I refused to publish even more than I am doing now. By the end of it, the manual™ proved nothing. The only long work that I managed to publish sits in the same spot as my short works. Actually, I looked at it rise, and it took far much longer on a category that's alive than other works I've put on dead categories. This is something I could study deeper by throwing both short and long work, but do I really want to debunk that when even people's toenails here are more skeptic than a teenager who just learned about atheism?

No thanks; I'd rather write the next story.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I'm suggesting to make a new category AI. Let people who want to use AI write their stuff, so that others don't suffer from delays, when clearly most of the admins are using AI to fact check things and still unable to decide things.. Certain people are obsessed in winning and getting maximum votes, but there are users who want what's simple and clear erotic stories, the delays cause hindrance to that satisfaction. (I'm sure you will be more confused, but I don't even care about that fact)..

How would this category be moderated?

 

[Nazgul1716]

My POV was about stories either being thrown into a AI category, to stop delays, I'm sure a human mind can really understand the difference between AI themed erotic stories and the ones created by human imagination.. I'm not to tech savy, but I understand that the site might need make changes to accommodate a new category. There could be another way, that if an author feels that a story is generated using AI then maybe a colour difference or a small logo to denote that, the stories will get published and maybe the writer can later follow up and clarify if the story is AI generated or not to remove the distinct markings..

 

[SmilingLez]

My POV was about stories either being thrown into a AI category, to stop delays, I'm sure a human mind can really understand the difference between AI themed erotic stories and the ones created by human imagination.. I'm not to tech savy, but I understand that the site might need make changes to accommodate a new category. There could be another way, that if an author feels that a story is generated using AI then maybe a colour difference or a small logo to denote that, the stories will get published and maybe the writer can later follow up and clarify if the story is AI generated or not to remove the distinct markings..

My point - literotica's backend is too unstable to do anything. So as much as implementing an AI category makes sense to you, it's not feasible on Literotica

 

[Stanfield2025]

Unconsciously I started to follow the manual™and ended up so frustrated I refused to publish even more than I am doing now. By the end of it, the manual™ proved nothing. The only long work that I managed to publish sits in the same spot as my short works. Actually, I looked at it rise, and it took far much longer on a category that's alive than other works I've put on dead categories. This is something I could study deeper by throwing both short and long work, but do I really want to debunk that when even people's toenails here are more skeptic than a teenager who just learned about atheism?

No thanks; I'd rather write the next story.

That's why I prefer AO3. It's easier to make the writing about the writing.

Here, with voting metrics available, it's so easy to care so much about external validation, and then when the writing becomes about that, things get all fucked up. Of course, one is free to turn off the votes but still, the temptation to engage in the external validation is always there.

 

[Voboy]

How would this category be moderated?

By an AI, of course!

 

[KittyOfSteele]

My POV was about stories either being thrown into a AI category, to stop delays, I'm sure a human mind can really understand the difference between AI themed erotic stories and the ones created by human imagination.. I'm not to tech savy, but I understand that the site might need make changes to accommodate a new category. There could be another way, that if an author feels that a story is generated using AI then maybe a colour difference or a small logo to denote that, the stories will get published and maybe the writer can later follow up and clarify if the story is AI generated or not to remove the distinct markings..

See:

The issue with this plan is that, knowing how this site fucks things up, non-AI stories will be chucked in the AI section. And that's a whole new problem. The AI section would probably have less readership. Besides that, I wouldn't want my non-AI story to be put in the AI section. Would you?

Here's another issue: let's say we have an established author; someone who posts here, but is also well known outside of the Lit ecosystem and is publishing in the big two (KDP, D2D, pick whichever), and who doesn't use AI, has a story chucked into the AI section due to a false positive. Do you think said author will be fine with that PR nightmare?

 

[Stanfield2025]

Here's another issue: let's say we have an established author; someone who posts here, but is also well known outside of the Lit ecosystem and is publishing in the big two (KDP, D2D, pick whichever), and who doesn't use AI, has a story chucked into the AI section due to a false positive. Do you think said author will be fine with that PR nightmare?

Exactly. A lot of authors have Patreon and whatnot. Something like this happening could cost them dearly.