Unauthorised editing

[Kumquatqueen]

I was originally talking about stuff written in Google Drive.

Google also isn't the government, at least at this moment in time.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

You're not ignored, you're indulged. Big difference.

But you've mellowed, which might be a bit unsettling (not really) .

Not by you, my good old EB, which I appreciate. Not by a few others as well. But a number of other people did start to ignore me, only because of my criticism of Laurel.

It comes with the territory, so it's fine. But it's worth mentioning as well. New people should know what they are getting into.

 

[jsmiam]

I'm pretty sure you have no idea how much time Staff here would spend (mostly wasted time) trying to appease the over-entitled.

If (as seems clear) they're already overstretched doing the tech stuff, & attending to Reports &c (which is where problem-reporting belongs), then they've got no time at all for activity on the forums; and becoming more responsive here in the forums would just lead folks to seek ever-more responsiveness here, rapidly descending past productivity's event-horizon.

Well thank goodness for the people who know it all, even when they misread multiple posts from multiple people due to skimming!

I addressed the longstanding pattern of inaction and silence. And I’m not asking/wishing/hoping for the site owner to spend more time in the forums. I’m asking/suggesting/wishing for them to be cognizant of major problems, and when they happen, to communicate more and in a way that would let all authors know their concerns have been heard. In a way that reaches authors outside the forums too, and there are many.

Because the sparse occasional communications that occasionally happen here in the forums unfairly leaves out people who never visit the forums, including some who don’t even know forums exist.

Because as penny paraphrased, the owner chooses mostly a path of avoidance and silence here too, even when it impacts the way her donors of free content are treated. (Edited. Maybe I’ll edit again to add the quote)

Edit again: it’s hard to quote properly in an edit. Here are the three bullets I’m referring to though, italics

• AH is an extremely tiny proportion of Lit's authors, and is not particularly representative.
• She does occasionally post and reply in AH, in situations where she thinks it might be helpful to clarify something.
• When she does, many of the replies are inevitably argumentative and distrustful, and she doesn't feel that it's productive to engage with those posters.

So the site owner could continue her forum avoidance (due to big meanies like me) but still communicate, by using blocked from reply posts, that are also linked to from the story side of the site, so everyone can see.

For example: how would a non forum user would ever know about the pending purgatory problem? They never would. They’d never know lots of people have the same problem, they’d never know the site suggests a path, however crazy it is, and many of them will simply give up and take their already written story and find somewhere else to publish it.

In summary: assumptions I want Laurel to cater to the AH are incorrect. I wish for better communication across the board for all authors.

And my wishes and hopes would hep lit keep more authors from leaving. So again, “you’re welcome.” Proactivity beats passiveness. Trying to help.

 

[TheExperimentalist]

I've had unapproved edits made to my work on 'the site with the red interface' (IYKYK), but never heard of it happening here. Good to know it's not Lit's policy to do so, and some other issue must have occurred. (It's irked me when it's happened on the other site, but not enough to make a nuisance of myself. Good on you for having more of a backbone than I would.)

So I have to revise this somewhat (or may, we'll see if it somehow changes back when the story, scheduled for tomorrow, goes up) but at least from the story html as it currently exists, it seems that when it was approved 1. Line breaks were added between double lines of separators I'm using and 2. Mdashes were changed to double hyphens. It's strange, because I definitely have other stories actually posted that do use mdashes that remained mdashes when published. This isn't anything like the wording changes the OP saw, and it doesn't significantly affect the story or anything, so it's not really a huge deal. I do prefer the mdashes over the double hyphen, though, because one story I wrote before I realized that unicode characters were allowed had actually ended up with a line break between the two hyphens on a full-width layout, making it look weird. (And before anyone asks, I write my stories directly in lit-approved html, so there's no formatting conversion going on behind the scenes or anything.) It's just a little odd, is all.

 

[BeechLeaf]

The em dash thing is a known change. If you use a literal em dash character, it gets changed to two hyphens. To get an em dash that remains, you need to use the entity — - this does work (I've used it in every submission). A minor, annoying point but not a mystery.

 

[TheExperimentalist]

The em dash thing is a known change. If you use a literal em dash character, it gets changed to two hyphens. To get an em dash that remains, you need to use the entity — - this does work (I've used it in every submission). A minor, annoying point but not a mystery.

Ah, that must be what I did in the stories where it did go through. Weird quirk, but I guess I'll do that in the future. Thanks.

 

[SmilingLez]

Hello all. I've noticed that my latest story, 'Maddy on the Move Pt. 10' has been edited by someone after submission. The changes are small, but unnecessary, and the point is, I didn't authorise them.

Has anyone else experienced this?

This is a deal-breaker for me. If someone is going to presumptuously alter my work after submission, I will simply stop submitting.

Lissy

It'll be interesting to see if this issue rears its ugly head in the future.

 

[AgentDoiron]

If readers are thinking the administrator's post was informative, I don't see how. I saw it a somewhat of a tongue lashing about daring to inquire about a problem.

I disagree. I found this forum thread when I was searching for a solution to my problem. Laurel's post told me what to do to correct said problem. As such, it was informative.

Specifically, the problem I'm having is that the chapter titles of my most recent stories are being mangled. Part 1 chapter 1 is listed as 1-1 , which is what I submitted. Part 1 chapter 2 is listed as 1-2 , which is what I submitted. Part 1 chapter 3 is listed as 01-03, which is not what I submitted. Part 1 chapter 4 is listed as 1.4 , which is also not what I submitted. The changes are inconsistent and annoying. After reading Laurel's post I know to use the report function.

Also, my experience suggests a human hand in these weird edits. A computer would be more consistent.

 

[Stanfield2025]

I disagree. I found this forum thread when I was searching for a solution to my problem. Laurel's post told me what to do to correct said problem. As such, it was informative.

Yeah, I didn't read any aggression in the post at all. It was a generic admin response.

 

[SmilingLez]

If readers are thinking the administrator's post was informative, I don't see how. I saw it a somewhat of a tongue lashing about daring to inquire about a problem.

That post basically said, if you have a bug write a bug report. IOW, let me know privately, don't post it publicly, so I can sweep it under the rug. And as a reward, I will take care of it manually.

That's the same covert mentality as the people who get their work posted after being in pending purgatory by sending a pm. The bug is still there, their story just manually posted.

As always my opinion and YMMV

 

[Britva415]

That post basically said, if you have a bug write a bug report. IOW, let me know privately, don't post it publicly, so I can sweep it under the rug. And as a reward, I will take care of it manually.

That's the same covert mentality as the people who get their work posted after being in pending purgatory by sending a pm. The bug is still there, their story just manually posted.

As always my opinion and YMMV

That's projection. You can't know that was what motivated it. It's very "assume bad faith - " which is the opposite but in the exact same bucket as "defend everything without question."

 

[Stanfield2025]

That post basically said, if you have a bug write a bug report. IOW, let me know privately, don't post it publicly, so I can sweep it under the rug. And as a reward, I will take care of it manually.

Ehhh, that's a bit much to assume. It struck me as more of a "here's the proper way to report a bug" sort of thing.

 

[Britva415]

It absolutely struck me as "if you do this, we'll for sure get the message and act on it, but if you do that other stuff, we might not know or act on it."

Kind of more like if you don't use bug-report, you're sweeping it under the rug.

 

[SmilingLez]

Ehhh, that's a bit much to assume. It struck me as more of a "here's the proper way to report a bug" sort of thing.

Everybody's allowed to have an opinion and I stated mine. Since 2003 (the earliest date I could find in the tech support forum) the pending purgatory bug has been documented but as of yet (23 years later) there has been no fix or even admission that the bug exists by the powers that be. Just swept under the rug with a manual submit to publish click of a button for certain individuals

As always my opinion and YMMV.

 

[Stanfield2025]

Everybody's allowed to have an opinion and I stated mine. Since 2003 (the earliest date I could find in the tech support forum) the pending purgatory bug has been documented but as of yet (23 years later) there has been no fix or even admission that the bug exists by the powers that be. Just swept under the rug with a manual submit to publish click of a button for certain individuals

Huh, odd that they wouldn't acknowledge it exists. I thought they had for some reason.

 

[SmilingLez]

Huh, odd that they wouldn't acknowledge it exists. I thought they had for some reason.

I checked the lit tech support forum, nowhere has the powers that be mentioned that there is a pending queue bug. Like I said there's been numerous posts from authors going back as far as 2003 but none have been acknowledged.

Shortly after I submitted my post about the pending purgatory bug (I put it in the tech support forum but somehow it ended up in the author's forum), all of my stories that had been posted for months except for the one with the highest rating as well as all of my stories in pending purgatory, a total of 10, were mass rejected and sent back to me with a generic rejection letter telling me to post the stories in the forum. I did write a post about that

Edit

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/possible-pending-purgatory-fix.1655295/

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/backend-misclassification-event-bug.1656201/

 

[If_Only_]

That post basically said, if you have a bug write a bug report. IOW, let me know privately, don't post it publicly, so I can sweep it under the rug. And as a reward, I will take care of it manually.

That's the same covert mentality as the people who get their work posted after being in pending purgatory by sending a pm. The bug is still there, their story just manually posted.

As always my opinion and YMMV

Yup. Shush it up. Don't call attention to it.