Ev-d68

[RobDownSouth]

Provide a link to a legit FOX news writeup that blames the illegal aliens.

Ishmael

Here ya go. No apology necessary, only men apologize.

 

[Busybody]

It will get WORSE

HUSSEIN imposed an AIRLINE TRAVEL BAN to G-D's PLACE....Israel

So now the PLANES bring DISEASE and DEATH to G-D' new enemy.....AMERICA(HUSSEIN)

 

[Busybody]

yes, we know

The PESTILIANCE issue

The TERROR issue

The invasion of UNWASHED on the borders

Can be stopped with a mere

NINE WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[neci]

Provide a link to a legit FOX news writeup that blames the illegal aliens.

Ishmael

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/01/unaccompanied-illegal-immigrant-kids-exposed-federal-agents-to-lice-scabies/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/13/nebraska-governor-illinois-senator-say-white-house-secretly-sending-illegal/

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/02/medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest/

then you have the drudge report.

http://www.drudge.com/news/181840/ev-d68-identified-latin-american-children

and here you have the new american citing Fox News’ Todd Starnes report of children from central america spreading disease again: (in case you missed it the first time) barak obama is bringing disease to america

 

[about_average]

The graph and accompanying numbers do not support your argument. Considering you admonished someone else for their graph with your "relevant numbers" that's kind of an important point.

Or else maybe you would care to explain why Missouri with 146 is in red and Texas with 5,290 isn't?

Or CA or NY or VA or LA, or...
The map with unaccompanied children proves absolutely nothing but the number of in each state. If it proves anything else, it disproves the OP.

 

[Busybody]

@melissatweets @aceofspadeshq Here's video of Obama blasting Bush for not being prepared for avian flu https://grabien.com/story.php?id=15279

 

[Ishmael]

Or CA or NY or VA or LA, or...
The map with unaccompanied children proves absolutely nothing but the number of in each state. If it proves anything else, it disproves the OP.

Fucking moron, it proves that it has spread to EVERY state in a remarkably, and improbably short time. And that's what it proves. The number of cases and/or the number of placed illegals is almost immaterial.

The time/area relationship is more than casual. Fucking moron.

Ishmael

 

[about_average]

The number of cases and/or the number of placed illegals is almost immaterial.

Try a new map with relevant numbers.

Immaterial and relevant are antonyms.

 

[about_average]

Now, back to reality.

States with lab confirmed cases of EV-D68

http://www.cdc.gov/non-polio-enterovirus/images/EV68-map-lg.jpg

The primary reason for increases in cases is that several states are investigating clusters of people with severe respiratory illness, and specimens are still being tested for EV-D68. It can take a while to test specimens and obtain lab results. That’s because the testing is complex and slower, and can only be done by CDC and a small number of state public health laboratories. As the backlog of specimens is processed, the number of states and confirmed cases will likely increase. These increases will not necessarily reflect changes in real time, or mean that the situation is getting worse.

Some of the increase will be from new EV-D68 infections since people are more likely to get infected with enteroviruses in the summer and fall. We are currently in the middle of the enterovirus season.

http://www.cdc.gov/non-polio-enterovirus/outbreaks/EV-D68-states.html

 

[neci]

Finally some people are beginning to tie the massive spread of EV-D68 to the massive influx and relocation of the illegal alien minors. This should have been a 'no-brainer' considering how quickly the disease manifested itself over such a large area over such a small period of time.

It has surprised me that no one has undertaken the task of actually tracking the source of this infection, at least no source that is willing, or able, to make the findings public. In each and every case of previous similar infections the source was traced almost immediately and made public, but not so in the case of this particular virus. Why is that?

Ishmael

Fucking moron, it proves that it has spread to EVERY state in a remarkably, and improbably short time. And that's what it proves. The number of cases and/or the number of placed illegals is almost immaterial.

The time/area relationship is more than casual. Fucking moron.

Ishmael

i am so confused here. in the first sentence of your OP,vyou are talking about the relocation of immigrant children, and now you are stating it is almost immaterial to the spread of this virus.

yes. viruses tend to spread. they do every year around this time.

now, please go wash your hands.

 

[Que]

Fucking moron, it proves that it has spread to EVERY state in a remarkably, and improbably short time. And that's what it proves. The number of cases and/or the number of placed illegals is almost immaterial.

The time/area relationship is more than casual. Fucking moron.

Ishmael

Apparently he is under the impression that the Fed's screen for communicable illnesses and apportion the sick equally between states.

If the OP is correct you will see clusters. Those who were shipped together on the same bus with a person in the communicable phase of an illness have higher exposure rates.

The longer the bus ride, the more incidental contact. Border states didn't need lengthy bus rides. Also the kids likely stayed in the detention centers for shorter periods of time. Tia and Tio showed up at the detention center and picked the kids up.

 

[Ishmael]

Apparently he is under the impression that the Fed's screen for communicable illnesses and apportion the sick equally between states.

If the OP is correct you will see clusters. Those who were shipped together on the same bus with a person in the communicable phase of an illness have higher exposure rates.

The longer the bus ride, the more incidental contact. Border states didn't need lengthy bus rides. Also the kids likely stayed in the detention centers for shorter periods of time. Tia and Tio showed up at the detention center and picked the kids up.

Clusters are the hallmark of this particular virus. And there are clusters of higher number of cases, and the map clearly shows that as well.

The kids were held at relatively few centers before being disbursed. Long enough to have infected each other.

There is NO WAY this disease could have spread across the nation in such a remarkably short time as a result of its normal infection pattern, there was a dispersal agent at work.

As far as being a conspiracy goes, it is in the context of trying not to disclose the reason for the rapid spread. I don't think the government did this on purpose. They were careless and are now trying not to have to take responsibility for the epidemic. And this administration has a LONG record of this sort of behavior.

Ishmael

 

[anchoredinocean]

The OP's lies are brought to you by Franzia Boxed Wine.

 

[about_average]

Apparently he is under the impression that the Fed's screen for communicable illnesses and apportion the sick equally between states.

You sure do like ascribing positions to people.
I said the numbers he was claiming in his post as relevant weren't. Which he subsequently admitted.

 

[Ishmael]

The pieces are starting to fall into place.

EV-D68 and the illegals.

However, a study published in Virology Journal, found EV-D68 among some of the 3,375 young, ill people tested in eight Latin American countries, including the Central American nations of El Salvador and Nicaragua, in 2013. (See Fig. 3)

Though the U.S. government is keeping secret the locations of the illegal immigrant children, there are significant numbers of them in both cities in which the current outbreak was first identified, Kansas City, Missouri and Chicago, Illinois, according to local advocates and press reports.

CDC list of states with confirmed EV-D68 cases

The EV-D68 outbreak was first recognized after Children’s Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Missouri notified CDC on August 19 of an increase in severe respiratory illnesses. Four days later, on August 23, the University of Chicago Medicine Comer Children’s Hospital notified CDC of a similar increase.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Too close to here for comfort.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Virals 'prefer' clusters because contagion is normally distributed. Expose 100 people to virus and 16 will survive, 2 wont have any significant symptoms. After enough cycles the population is immune to the virus.

 

[Ishmael]

Obama's policies with regard to the ebola threat are the model that was used regarding the wholesale influx of the illegals. That being the desire NOT to inconvenience travelers trumps his sworn duty to protect the US citizenry. As with the current ebola threat, he's been behind the curve keeping infectious disease out of the general population. In other words his notion of the politically correct is of higher value than the protection of the citizens.

His response to all of these threats has been slow and inadequate.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Measured and thoughtful, full of nuance...

 

[about_average]

However, a study published in Virology Journal, found EV-D68 among some of the 3,375 young, ill people tested in eight Latin American countries, including the Central American nations of El Salvador and Nicaragua, in 2013.

OMG! Fewer than 3% of children with respiratory viruses tested in Latin America had EV-D68!
Run away!!!

 

[Ishmael]

OMG! Fewer than 3% of children with respiratory viruses tested in Latin America had EV-D68!
Run away!!!

It only takes one to spread the disease moron.

Ishmael

 

[about_average]

It only takes one to spread the disease moron.

Then its more likely to have originated this year from a US citizen, moron.

 

[Ishmael]

Then its more likely to have originated this year from a US citizen, moron.

Let's break this down, statistically speaking of course, using your own numbers.

That is 3 per 100, or 30 per 1000, or 300 per 10,000. How many of those disease ridden little urchins have we allowed into the country and distributed throughout the population, 40,000? That translates into 1200 disease vectors distributed across virtually the entire geographic are of the US.

So let me ask you, just statistically speaking of course, would it be OK if only a mere 3% of the travelers from the ebola infected nations in West Africa had the disease? After all, that's a statistically insignificant number..........right?

Ishmael

 

[MeeMie]

OMG! Fewer than 3% of children with respiratory viruses tested in Latin America had EV-D68!
Run away!!!

A study published in Virology Journal, found EV-D68 among some of the 3,375 young, ill people tested in eight Latin American countries, including the Central American nations of El Salvador and Nicaragua, in 2013.
http://www.virologyj.com/content/10/1/305

 

[about_average]

Let's break this down, statistically speaking of course, using your own numbers.

ok

That is 3 per 100, or 30 per 1000, or 300 per 10,000. How many of those disease ridden little urchins have we allowed into the country and distributed throughout the population, 40,000? That translates into 1200 disease vectors distributed across virtually the entire geographic are of the US.

I can see you didn't even read my post, much less the study.

For a start, fewer than 3% does not equal 3 per 100.

Second, you're claiming that every one of the 40,000 had a repository viral infection.