Endless Ends

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

Expanding out to some dom’ing are we?

Not for sex. For revenge.
Why? You interested?

 

[Apisto42]

Not for sex. For revenge.

Ah yes. Best use of a knout.

Why? You interested?

No no no, no.

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

Ah yes. Best use of a knout.

No no no, no.

Good to know!

 

[Polranny25]

Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow.

Never put off until tomorrow what you can put off until the day after

 

[Endless_Night]

Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow.

Alas, I caved and did stuff.

Knout? Shall we start calling you Tsarina?

Endless would make a superb Tsarina.

Enny, not so much.

Enny might do better on the receiving end. More mild! Maybe some light physical restraint. A light dusting of rough handling. A little . . . .

Sorry. Got distracted.

 

[Endless_Night]

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies (2016).

I've not watched it before as I heard it was . . . not wonderful.

Which, it is not. But, so far, it's something of a hoot.

 

[Endless_Night]

Okay, so this really is the most terrible movie.

Jane Austin would be rolling in her grave.

Not for sex. For revenge.
Why? You interested?

I've been thinking.

I approve this sentiment.

 

[LadyLascivious1]

I've been thinking.

I approve this sentiment.

I’ve never had hate sex or revenge sex. Only for fun sex

 

[Endless_Night]

I’ve never had hate sex or revenge sex. Only for fun sex

I was thinking less sex and more revenge.

I could probably learn to wield a knout.

Probably.

But. Considering my klutz level, I'd likely end up hurting myself.

 

[LadyLascivious1]

I was thinking less sex and more revenge.

I could probably learn to wield a knout.

Probably.

But. Considering my klutz level, I'd likely end up hurting myself.

I clearly have a one track mind these days. I’m still blaming the drugs and surgery recovery

You’d need to be encased in bubble wrap. Or the Ralphie snowsuit from A Christmas Story.

 

[Endless_Night]

I clearly have a one track mind these days. I’m still blaming the drugs and surgery recovery

You’d need to be encased in bubble wrap. Or the Ralphie snowsuit from A Christmas Story.

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Okay. That is just disturbing.

 

[Endless_Night]

The ethics of fantasizing.

This came up in conversation the other day and I'm still mulling it over. Specifically, fantasying about an ex.

It could fall under the umbrella of fantasying about strangers or celebrities, which, as long as one is not moving into the stalker category, seems . . . not too problematic.

I suppose, it might depend on the terms the relationship ended.

Amicable. A general moving on due to the possibilities being exhausted. Then, possibly not an issue.

But, what about relationships that haven't ended on those terms? What are the ethics of fantasizing about someone who might actively not want to be . . . an object of affection?

That situation seems more questionable.

True, strangers or celebrities might not want to be fantasized about, either, but - previous partners are people you know/have known. There is a relationship there. You would have intimate knowledge, and more of an ethical obligation.

Is this too fastidious a line of thinking?

I'm not sure . . . .


S'okay. I live in a state of perpetual confusion.

 

[Endless_Night]

'Tis gloomy and drear here today.

My favorite kind of day.

 

[AngelicaS1780]

The ethics of fantasizing.

This came up in conversation the other day and I'm still mulling it over. Specifically, fantasying about an ex.

It could fall under the umbrella of fantasying about strangers or celebrities, which, as long as one is not moving into the stalker category, seems . . . not too problematic.

I suppose, it might depend on the terms the relationship ended.

Amicable. A general moving on due to the possibilities being exhausted. Then, possibly not an issue.

But, what about relationships that haven't ended on those terms? What are the ethics of fantasizing about someone who might actively not want to be . . . an object of affection?

That situation seems more questionable.

True, strangers or celebrities might not want to be fantasized about, either, but - previous partners are people you know/have known. There is a relationship there. You would have intimate knowledge, and more of an ethical obligation.

Is this too fastidious a line of thinking?

I'm not sure . . . .


S'okay. I live in a state of perpetual confusion.

It's an interesting question. If the ending of the relationship was not a truly mutual and amicable decision, I think that, *if* anyone is to have a negative effect from that, it is the person doing the fantasizing. Provided, of course, that the person doing the fantasizing is not sharing that information with anyone else and especially not the former partner. If you are the person who didn't want the relationship to end, you're probably not helping yourself move on by fantasizing about your former partner. If you are the person who ended the relationship, fantasizing about your former partner might lead you back into a situation with that person that isn't healthy for either of you. That said, I don't consider it inherently unethical to fantasize about an ex.

 

[Endless_Night]

< If you are the person who didn't want the relationship to end, you're probably not helping yourself move on by fantasizing about your former partner. If you are the person who ended the relationship, fantasizing about your former partner might lead you back into a situation with that person that isn't healthy for either of you. >

Excellent, excellent, excellent point.

 

[Endless_Night]

More relationship ponderings.

Most relationships have this period of flux, post ending. That "will they" or "won't they" get back together period There is usually a break point on the won't, but it varies.

Like, with some, once their ex partner has a *thing* with someone else, that kills any chance of working things out.

With others, that's just a blip, which, while it might cause hurt, is surmountable.

I wonder if that's a personality type thing.


I seem to be in a philosophical frame of mind today.

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

The ethics of fantasizing.

This came up in conversation the other day and I'm still mulling it over. Specifically, fantasying about an ex.

It could fall under the umbrella of fantasying about strangers or celebrities, which, as long as one is not moving into the stalker category, seems . . . not too problematic.

I suppose, it might depend on the terms the relationship ended.

Amicable. A general moving on due to the possibilities being exhausted. Then, possibly not an issue.

But, what about relationships that haven't ended on those terms? What are the ethics of fantasizing about someone who might actively not want to be . . . an object of affection?

That situation seems more questionable.

True, strangers or celebrities might not want to be fantasized about, either, but - previous partners are people you know/have known. There is a relationship there. You would have intimate knowledge, and more of an ethical obligation.

Is this too fastidious a line of thinking?

I'm not sure . . . .


S'okay. I live in a state of perpetual confusion.

Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I haven't ever fantasized about an ex.

More relationship ponderings.

Most relationships have this period of flux, post ending. That "will they" or "won't they" get back together period There is usually a break point on the won't, but it varies.

Like, with some, once their ex partner has a *thing* with someone else, that kills any chance of working things out.

With others, that's just a blip, which, while it might cause hurt, is surmountable.

I wonder if that's a personality type thing.


I seem to be in a philosophical frame of mind today.

For me, it's more of a how much crap am I going to put up with? When I am I going to stop trying to hold on to him when he clearly loves himself so much he doesn't care about how much he hurts me. If I was stronger and had more self respect I should have never married him to begin with.

 

[Wand3rlust]

More relationship ponderings.

Most relationships have this period of flux, post ending. That "will they" or "won't they" get back together period There is usually a break point on the won't, but it varies.

Like, with some, once their ex partner has a *thing* with someone else, that kills any chance of working things out.

With others, that's just a blip, which, while it might cause hurt, is surmountable.

I wonder if that's a personality type thing.

I think that is true. Some peoples tolerance/forgiveness levels are high. Some aren't. Neither is right or wrong. All people are different.

I am a trusting person. I take people at face value until I'm given a reason not to. I won't be swayed by other people's opinions. Although I will listen to them.

Some times this means I get hurt. Sometimes it means that it may take a while for me to let people in. But I am not a doormat or a pushover. But I'll be fucked if i let some sickhead's/bitches behaviour change the essence of me.

I seem to be in a philosophical frame of mind today.

I like philosophical you. Mind you, I like you.

 

[Endless_Night]

Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I haven't ever fantasized about an ex.

For me, it's more of a how much crap am I going to put up with? When I am I going to stop trying to hold on to him when he clearly loves himself so much he doesn't care about how much he hurts me. If I was stronger and had more self respect I should have never married him to begin with.

Oh! My comment seems to have pinged some ongoing situation. Sorry. Not my intent!

 

[AmberLGreen]

The ethics of fantasizing.

This came up in conversation the other day and I'm still mulling it over. Specifically, fantasying about an ex.

It could fall under the umbrella of fantasying about strangers or celebrities, which, as long as one is not moving into the stalker category, seems . . . not too problematic.

I suppose, it might depend on the terms the relationship ended.

Amicable. A general moving on due to the possibilities being exhausted. Then, possibly not an issue.

But, what about relationships that haven't ended on those terms? What are the ethics of fantasizing about someone who might actively not want to be . . . an object of affection?

That situation seems more questionable.

True, strangers or celebrities might not want to be fantasized about, either, but - previous partners are people you know/have known. There is a relationship there. You would have intimate knowledge, and more of an ethical obligation.

Is this too fastidious a line of thinking?

I'm not sure . . . .


S'okay. I live in a state of perpetual confusion.

Never fantasised about an ex. When I think about it, with my last ex, I spent most of the time fantasising about other people when we were having sex.

More relationship ponderings.

Most relationships have this period of flux, post ending. That "will they" or "won't they" get back together period There is usually a break point on the won't, but it varies.

Like, with some, once their ex partner has a *thing* with someone else, that kills any chance of working things out.

With others, that's just a blip, which, while it might cause hurt, is surmountable.

I wonder if that's a personality type thing.


I seem to be in a philosophical frame of mind today.

I do think it is a personality type thing. Some people can’t handle the “failure” of a relationship and will do anything to try to make it work so will pursue to the point of harassment. Others are people pleasers and will try to stay on good terms when a relationship ends even if that stops them from fully moving on themselves. Some think they are the best thing since sliced bread and fantasise that their partner will come back to them even if they have started a new relationship.

I am quite cold when I move on. I don’t show any joy, anger, upset. For me, if it has got to the point where it has ended, then it has ended. I won’t go back to something that didn’t work

 

[Endless_Night]

I am a trusting person. I take people at face value until I'm given a reason not to. I won't be swayed by other people's opinions. Although I will listen to them.

*nods*

Some times this means I get hurt. Sometimes it means that it may take a while for me to let people in.

*nods some more*

But I am not a doormat or a pushover. But I'll be fucked if i let some sickhead's/bitches behaviour change the essence of me.

I'll give lots of chances. If I care. But once decided there is an innate lack of honesty or honor or some other serious defect of character, I'm out.

I like philosophical you.

Mind you, I like you.

This almost begs the idea that if one doesn't like me, they won't like philosophical me.

I like you, too.

Go figure.

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

Oh! My comment seems to have pinged some ongoing situation. Sorry. Not my intent!

Lol it's ok. Amber and Eyes and others have helped me so much. I feel much more clinical about it now.

 

[Endless_Night]

Never fantasised about an ex. When I think about it, with my last ex, I spent most of the time fantasising about other people when we were having sex.

Omg.

Others are people pleasers and will try to stay on good terms when a relationship ends even if that stops them from fully moving on themselves.

Ooooh. I think this is a super relevant point.

Some think they are the best thing since sliced bread and fantasise that their partner will come back to them even if they have started a new relationship.

I think . . . I know someone like this.

I am quite cold when I move on. I don’t show any joy, anger, upset. For me, if it has got to the point where it has ended, then it has ended. I won’t go back to something that didn’t work

 

[Magesthicc]

For me, if it has got to the point where it has ended, then it has ended.

I never fantasized about an Ex, I might keep fond memories but my actual thoughts are about my actual situationship, what Amber said is the same for me.
Exactly the same

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

Never fantasised about an ex. When I think about it, with my last ex, I spent most of the time fantasising about other people when we were having sex.


I do think it is a personality type thing. Some people can’t handle the “failure” of a relationship and will do anything to try to make it work so will pursue to the point of harassment. Others are people pleasers and will try to stay on good terms when a relationship ends even if that stops them from fully moving on themselves. Some think they are the best thing since sliced bread and fantasise that their partner will come back to them even if they have started a new relationship.

I am quite cold when I move on. I don’t show any joy, anger, upset. For me, if it has got to the point where it has ended, then it has ended. I won’t go back to something that didn’t work

You didn't have to talk about my people pleasing. jk! It's a real issue.