edited story rejected

[Lydyia]

I have a question about submitting an edited story. After sending the edited version it was rejected for having underage characters. The first time i sent my story it was accepted. The only thing that was changed spelling, punctuation , grammar, and described the characters more. I didn't see a link or option to send a msg explaining this. Is there a way to contact the approval person(s)?

Thx
-L-

 

[TxRad]

I have a question about submitting an edited story. After sending the edited version it was rejected for having underage characters. The first time i sent my story it was accepted. The only thing that was changed spelling, punctuation , grammar, and described the characters more. I didn't see a link or option to send a msg explaining this. Is there a way to contact the approval person(s)?

Thx
-L-

PM Laurel with your explanation. You will find her name at the top of the page on one of the sticky threads. She is the one to help you. Include a link to the story.

 

[Lydyia]

Thx

I added a preface explaining too. I will pm her. Thx

 

[SandraMustard]

It is possible that the offending details escaped the original review. You should look for something that might be underage, not just in active participation but in thought, discussion, or presence of others.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

It is possible that the offending details escaped the original review. You should look for something that might be underage, not just in active participation but in thought, discussion, or presence of others.

My thought exactly...the OP didn't say that there was no underage sex, just that it had been accepted the first go round.

If there is underage sex in the story, well this site does not accept stories with underage sex. All characters must be over 18 years of age...period.

If you want to post underage sex stories go to a site that allows that kind of thing. Personally, I don't want to read things like that.

 

[lovecraft68]

If you want to post underage sex stories go to a site that allows that kind of thing. Personally, I don't want to read things like that.

Oh, please play some dramatic music next time you say that.

If the site actually screened it in the first place it would have never made it in the first place.

So what your poor sensibilities are subjected to us due to site negligence.

But in laurel's defense it is necessary to a point because if she had to look closely at each story then it would take 10 days for stories to post and everyone would be bitching.

Then again what those "other sites" do have is multiple editors that screen stories. Something this site should certainly look into.

because obviously we have some sensitive people here.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Oh, please play some dramatic music next time you say that.

If the site actually screened it in the first place it would have never made it in the first place.

So what your poor sensibilities are subjected to us due to site negligence.

But in laurel's defense it is necessary to a point because if she had to look closely at each story then it would take 10 days for stories to post and everyone would be bitching.

Then again what those "other sites" do have is multiple editors that screen stories. Something this site should certainly look into.

because obviously we have some sensitive people here.

Dumda dum....*dramatic music*

<sarcasm>Bite me.</sarcasm> Now that we have the "fuck you asshole" out of the way.

While underage sex in a fictional story isn't illegal, I really don't care for it. I really don't.

So go soak your head in a bucket and kiss my ass.

 

[lovecraft68]

Dumda dum....*dramatic music*

<sarcasm>Bite me.</sarcasm> Now that we have the "fuck you asshole" out of the way.

While underage sex in a fictional story isn't illegal, I really don't care for it. I really don't.

So go soak your head in a bucket and kiss my ass.

Oh, ouch, oh that was harsh.

Its not illegal, but the site says they don't want it. Which is fine, I do not write it or particularly care to read it.

But I don't flip out about it or bother reporting it anymore if I stumble across it because if the site makes a rule they should make more than a half ass effort to enforce it.

If-and we do not know-the OP's story had underage it should have been rejected first time out.

Because if the person put it through once they will think its okay and do it again and again, until it is noticed then they will not understand why. When they are told it is a rule, it will be"but all my other stories made it"

Then people here become rude to them because apparently half assed efforts to enforce rules are the author's fault not ownerships.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Oh, ouch, oh that was harsh.

Its not illegal, but the site says they don't want it. Which is fine, I do not write it or particularly care to read it.

But I don't flip out about it or bother reporting it anymore if I stumble across it because if the site makes a rule they should make more than a half ass effort to enforce it.

If-and we do not know-the OP's story had underage it should have been rejected first time out.

Because if the person put it through once they will think its okay and do it again and again, until it is noticed then they will not understand why. When they are told it is a rule, it will be"but all my other stories made it"

Then people here become rude to them because apparently half assed efforts to enforce rules are the author's fault not ownerships.

And I believe that is what I tried to convey in my first post.

I also added in that post my dislike and what do I get?

A smack in the back of the head and my name isn't even DiNozzo nor is yours Gibbs.

 

[lovecraft68]

And I believe that is what I tried to convey in my first post.

I also added in that post my dislike and what do I get?

A smack in the back of the head and my name isn't even DiNozzo nor is yours Gibbs.

IT was just your "tone" that made me laugh. Little dramatic.

And screw Dinozzo and Gibbs.

I want to give Abby a smack and not on the back of her head.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

IT was just your "tone" that made me laugh. Little dramatic.

And screw Dinozzo and Gibbs.

I want to give Abby a smack and not on the back of her head.

So, you want to screw DiNozzo and Gibbs, but smack around little ol' Abby?

Now I'm a Kate man. Ziva was okay, but Kate...she was probably a wildcat in the sack.

 

[lovecraft68]

So, you want to screw DiNozzo and Gibbs, but smack around little ol' Abby?

Now I'm a Kate man. Ziva was okay, but Kate...she was probably a wildcat in the sack.

Kate's got some hotness going

Ziva? Now she is one of those women I look at and think "I should think this woman is hot" but she doesn't do much for me.

Abby is pretty much my current(and for the last couple of years) Tv/Celebrity that I would most like to fuck. The pig tails and goth look get to me.

 

[JackLuis]

I have been struggling with a story that 'could' be considered problematic. It takes place circa 2350 BCE and has a few characters who are 'underage'.

I am using a young goat herder to be taught the ways of women. Atupiti is a boy on the edge of manhood who becomes the "Eyes of the King" and taster of the royal pussies. Due to the former king falling prey to a poisoned pussy.

My problem is that in 2350 BCE eighteen year olds were... well, old!

So how do I get around this, not that I plan to use really young girls and Atupiti is about 16 and ready to be initiated, but I need to teach the new slave girls, and Atupiti how to do it? I hope to use this as a foil to show the differences in attitudes and objectives so long ago.

I had hoped to avoid specifying exact age in the descriptions, but there will always be someone who assumes that 18 is that magic age where sexuality blossoms and anything younger is rape.

One way is to infer that the girls and Atupiti have passed a milestone that allows them to be participants in the dance of the Gods.

I could use some help as I'd hate to write this out (~200K words) and find it rejected.

 

[lovecraft68]

I have been struggling with a story that 'could' be considered problematic. It takes place circa 2350 BCE and has a few characters who are 'underage'.

I am using a young goat herder to be taught the ways of women. Atupiti is a boy on the edge of manhood who becomes the "Eyes of the King" and taster of the royal pussies. Due to the former king falling prey to a poisoned pussy.

My problem is that in 2350 BCE eighteen year olds were... well, old!

So how do I get around this, not that I plan to use really young girls and Atupiti is about 16 and ready to be initiated, but I need to teach the new slave girls, and Atupiti how to do it? I hope to use this as a foil to show the differences in attitudes and objectives so long ago.

I had hoped to avoid specifying exact age in the descriptions, but there will always be someone who assumes that 18 is that magic age where sexuality blossoms and anything younger is rape.

One way is to infer that the girls and Atupiti have passed a milestone that allows them to be participants in the dance of the Gods.

I could use some help as I'd hate to write this out (~200K words) and find it rejected.

Its not that anything younger is rape. Its all about the stance of the person running the show here.

Rape/ beastie/snuff there is plenty of all of it on here, but have a character say "Back when I was 15...) yeah see you later, doesn't matter what words follow that sentence.

Your best bet to not waste this enormous effort is to post in on a site like SOL. That way you're not going in there and trying rewrite anything or trying to "slip" something in.

 

[Euphony]

I have been struggling with a story that 'could' be considered problematic. It takes place circa 2350 BCE and has a few characters who are 'underage'.

I am using a young goat herder to be taught the ways of women. Atupiti is a boy on the edge of manhood who becomes the "Eyes of the King" and taster of the royal pussies. Due to the former king falling prey to a poisoned pussy.

My problem is that in 2350 BCE eighteen year olds were... well, old!

So how do I get around this, not that I plan to use really young girls and Atupiti is about 16 and ready to be initiated, but I need to teach the new slave girls, and Atupiti how to do it? I hope to use this as a foil to show the differences in attitudes and objectives so long ago.

I had hoped to avoid specifying exact age in the descriptions, but there will always be someone who assumes that 18 is that magic age where sexuality blossoms and anything younger is rape.

One way is to infer that the girls and Atupiti have passed a milestone that allows them to be participants in the dance of the Gods.

I could use some help as I'd hate to write this out (~200K words) and find it rejected.

The rule casts a wide net and can occasionally snag catch it wasn't originally intended to.

But, sadly, 'dems the breaks some time.

Mentioning an actual age will likely get you punted. I've never seen leeway due to cultural ideals or historical accuracy.

I would be sure to give my character a sense of maturity of an 18 yo TODAY then, only in your mind, backtrack it to whatever makes sense in your mind for the era.

Also, consider things "adults" would have that children wouldnt. Give him LAND. Give him serious possessions (livestock, a business, etc)

If it even hints that you are trying to sneak under 18 in using some clever loophole (in this case, history) it will likely trip the censors.

Make sure you ground him in adulthood in multiple ways. Readers will be far more forgiving of you just not dialing in a specific age b/c most know the site rules and why you can't be detailed and historically accurate.

If you try to paint a "coming of age" tale and don't firmly set some level of maturity in your protag, the assumption will be you're trying to flout the rules and you will most likely get caught up in the net.

And P.s. I think it's a very interesting idea you've come up with even if it has to be watered down some to make it site friendly. I do hope you see it through, complications and all.

 

[RejectReality]

I hope to use this as a foil to show the differences in attitudes and objectives so long ago.

If I'm reading that right, your goal is in direct contradiction to using a milestone such as what was considered adulthood at the time in place of the actual age. If that's the case, you should probably start looking for another venue.

If I'm wrong, and the numerical age at which people were considered adults isn't one of the differences you're wanting to highlight, then use the adulthood milestone. Those who realize that people had to grow up fast because they died fast back then will assume the correct age. Those who don't care or don't have that historical perspective can assume 18.

That's assuming that the characters behave as adults because they've been forced to mature by the conditions they live under. No matter how you try to play the shell game with ages, if they're acting like underage characters, you still have a good chance of getting popped with a rejection or a rejection after the fact when someone reports it.

 

[JKendallDane]

Pretty much anything beyond a completely vanilla and glancing mention of things like "remembering how I used to so easily pop a boner in the junior high showers," or "I was a complete virgin to sex unless you counted circle jerk distance contests at scout camp," will get a story bumped until you edit out anything under the magical age of 18.

It makes writing coming-of-age stories a real pain in the ass to write, but thems the rules!

 

[Euphony]

My problem is that in 2350 BCE eighteen year olds were... well, old

So paint them as "adults" in their society. No chrono ages. Hell, if you think about it, chrono ages means far less to almost nothing in your story as you are set in "another universe" almost.

So how do I get around this, not that I plan to use really young girls and Atupiti is about 16 and ready to be initiated, but I need to teach the new slave girls, and Atupiti how to do it? I hope to use this as a foil to show the differences in attitudes and objectives so long ago.

There's a vagueness to your statement. You can show different sexual attitudes, cultures, ideals, morals, all the live long day so long as none of it touches on those under 18 (in current times) or those painted as minors/children in their own society.

This will never be the place to compare/contrast "age of consent" ideas/notions/etc throughout history/time/the universe, whatever. If that's your idea, SOL as LCraft said.

I had hoped to avoid specifying exact age in the descriptions, but there will always be someone who assumes that 18 is that magic age where sexuality blossoms and anything younger is rape.

Anybody with half a brain cell knows Lit rules. And, as you are touching on what I'd consider a more intellectual topic than, say, Billy banging Mommy animal style which is popular here, your readers are even more likely to understand why you had to describe things as you do.

Anyone who needs the under 18 kink won't be happy with anything less. I doubt there's a large history professor readership that's going to torch and pitchfork you for historically inaccuracy.

One way is to infer that the girls and Atupiti have passed a milestone that allows them to be participants in the dance of the Gods.

Perfect. No chrono age and you've set them as adults in their own society. So long as you ground the ceremonies intent (to signify adulthood) you should be fine.

I could use some help as I'd hate to write this out (~200K words) and find it rejected.

If you are inspired to write it, just do. If it can't go here, it can go somewhere. If Lit is your only motivation, then decide whether the perimeters you have to work in are too harsh for you to tell the tale.

 

[drinkz]

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[robertreams]

Sorry I don't agree. Children are sexual! What is inherently wrong about writing about two youngsters experimenting with sex. I could not write an accurate auto biography without including such details and what i did with sex when I was underage has had a major effect on who I am today, sexually and personally. i believe there is a huge difference between writing about sexuality and experiencing it. Do we writers really believe we are so powerful we can turn someone into pedophile who isn't already one? I am opposed to censorship of all kinds. No one has ever been harmed by having too much information available. Anyone who has seen their infant son lying in bed with his hands under his body, rocking back and forth, or seen their daughter rocking her body against her crib rails, knows that children of all ages are sexual, and also knows that repressing such behavior is a bad thing. How we grow up affects who we become and the sex of our youth defines the sex of our old age. So why pretend it doesn't exist?

 

[sr71plt]

We're into irrelevancies again. This is a privately owned Web site. It can publish under whatever limits it wants. This thread is about the Web site exercising its right not to publish a certainly type of story. That's a different issue from whether an author can write about the sexuality of children of any age. This is done in the mainstream. You just can't force anyone to use their business to publish it if they don't want to. Literotica doesn't want to.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Sorry I don't agree. Children are sexual! What is inherently wrong about writing about two youngsters experimenting with sex. I could not write an accurate auto biography without including such details and what i did with sex when I was underage has had a major effect on who I am today, sexually and personally. i believe there is a huge difference between writing about sexuality and experiencing it. Do we writers really believe we are so powerful we can turn someone into pedophile who isn't already one? I am opposed to censorship of all kinds.

Really? Literotica should host every story somebody submits, even the ones about how to get cheap mail-order V1@gra? A newspaper should be obliged to publish any article or letter somebody sends them? CNN should have to run my wacky YouTube videos?

In real life, any publisher in any medium has to apply some discretion about what they will and won't publish, for all sorts of reasons. You can call it "censorship" if you like, but nobody would be able to stay in the business without it.

 

[Hypoxia]

Every rule, constraint, limitation, parameter, whatever we wish to call it, is a challenge. Without challenges, we go nowhere. The rules here against writing directly about pedophilic and bestial sex, and rape-murder, provide challenges: How far can we bend the rules to write interesting tales? How far can we bend the stories to make them fit within the rules?

And anyone who doesn't like the rules here can post on their own blogs, no problem.