Drinking habits...

[Homburg]

Have you always been teetotal, or you mean no drinking and play? What motivated your decision not to drink?

Pretty much. I can count the number of times I've been drunk on two hands and still have fingers left over.

There are a lot of reasons why I don't drink. First and foremost is that I am a self-control freak. Sure, control freaks are common hereabouts, but I extend it to myself. When I drink, and get drunk, I am still so much in control that I don't slur, don't wobble when I walk, etc, and very commonly have people offer to get me my "first drink". It takes a woeful amount of brainpower to do this, so I have exactly zero fun in these situations. My internal monologue is "RIGHT FOOT STEADY LEFT FOOT STEADY DON'T TRIP MOTHERFUCKER," etc. Not a fun time.

I don't generally like the taste all that much. There are individual drinks and alcohols that I do enjoy the taste of, and they are universally more expensive than I want to swill back in the relatively copious amounts necessary to get me drunk. Yes, I am too cheap to get drunk on booze I like, and too snobby to get wasted on hooch I don't like.

And I am also paranoid about being drunk in public. The internal monologue is LOUD and gets in the way of situational awareness. Because of years spent working security and bouncing, I am hyper aware in clubs and bars, and can't stand not being that way.

And, honestly, I remember everything the next day. I've drunk enough in one sitting to go toxic, and still remembered every stupid fucking thing that happened pretty much crystal clear. It is less fun to recall these sorts of things sans alcohol haze. While I don't get hangovers generally, I do get to experience the joys of remembering what happened around me and what I was involved in. Blah.

In short, alcohol and my brain don't really get along the same way other peoples' brains and alcohol get along. Thus I do not drink.

 

[myinnerslut]

i dont drink. ever. medical reasons prohibit, and Master doesnt want me drinking to boot.

 

[the captians wench]

My Irish family on my father's side are about 60% hardcore alcholic, no exaggeration. I have a virtually indestructible liver and have never suffered a hangover - which is probably not a good thing.

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[steriotyping in progress]

Oky when I was in Ireland I had expected to be consuming lots of alcohol, both of us to be in all honesty. Not only was this because I was going to be in Ireland (land of flowing beer) but because he had teased me many a time telling me I'd drink a lot more while I was there. Not to mention the fact that every other time I talk to him he's either at the pub, going to the pub, or just back from the pub.

While I was there I had half a pint at the Guiness warehouse, just because I was at the guiness warehouse (he had a coke), we stopped at one place to eat and I had a pina colada, and every other time I asked for a drink he questioned me. He did not have one drink besides a sip of my pina colada because he'd never had one before.

Still, I guess that is more than I normally have in a week, so I guess he did hold up to his word.

[/steriotyping and reminising]

 

[FurryFury]

I very rarely drink.

However my husband drinks, at least one drink a night, most nights that he is off work.

There have been nights that we had dates and were both drinking then had a wonderful scene or two in the privacy of our home or hotel room.

There was on particularly memorable night in New Orleans that I was on painkillers and drank quite a bit. Most of those kind of nights though it's just one drink or a glass of wine. I have NO tolerance these days due to allergy meds.

Oh for my high school and college days when I cultivated the ability to drink vodka straight. LOL

 

[00Syd]

One of the best physical players I knew was a total lush. I'd let her singletail me wasted before I'd let most people touch me stone cold sober.

It takes all kinds.

We know a guy who gets better at tying rope the more he drinks (and is actually really good). Takes all kinds indeed.

 

[Sayyid]

I have had sex while drunk but nothing kinkier than biting. I don't drink much anymore.

 

[Corylea]

So... my question is, how many units do people here consume in an average week and how much of that is drunk all in one night or just at the weekend?

Zero. Zip, nada, nothing. Many people hearing that assume that I'm a recovering alcoholic, but I'm not; my non-drinking is actually a combination of things:

1. I don't like the taste of most alcoholic drinks; I prefer my fruit juice unfermented.
2. I can behave addictively about such non-physiologically addicitve things as games or books; there's no way I'm going to let myself develop a taste for alcohol, given that I didn't come pre-equipped with one.
3. I have a hard time giving up control to anyone or anything. To certain trusted people -- Okay. Maybe. Once in awhile. To a brainless, feelingless substance? No fucking way!

Haven't young people always got too drunk and been a bit stupid with it? Has there really been a huge change in our drinking habits?

Yes, young people have always gotten a bit stupid with it, but I think there IS a change, and an alarming one. Young people used to get drunk for the pleasurable or inhibition-easing effects. Nowadays, many young people seem to get drunk to get drunk, not because they enjoy it. When I overhear young people proudly describing how much they puked over the weekend (I used to be a professor, so I've been exposed to lots of young people, even though it's been awhile since I was one ), they aren't talking about pleasure or disinhibition.

I think that humans are psychologically structured so as to desire a rite of passage, and I think a coming-of-age rite needs to have a bit of the ordeal about it to satsify whatever it is that makes us want one. "Civilized" cultures would never dream of enforcing an ordeal upon the young as a prerequisite for being taken seriously as an adult -- and I agree that it sounds barbaric, intellectually. But I also think that young people will come up with ordeals of their own if adult society doesn't give them one, and the proud "I puked SO much" conversations that I overhear seem to me to be very thinly disguised attempts at self-created rites of passage.

And just look at the hazing and other initiation rituals that some fraternities and sororities come up with! I think we need to develop a coming-of-age ordeal -- and not, "Congratulations! Now you get to work full time for the rest of your life."

Which brings us to BDSM. We know a lot, in our subculture, about making ordeals that are physically strenuous but not actually unsafe. Would it reduce binge drinking if everyone had to be flogged bloody when they reached 21? Bizarrely enough, I think it might. No one's ever going to put me in charge of a country though , so I suppose we'll not get to make the experiment.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

[steriotyping in progress]

Oky when I was in Ireland I had expected to be consuming lots of alcohol, both of us to be in all honesty. Not only was this because I was going to be in Ireland (land of flowing beer) but because he had teased me many a time telling me I'd drink a lot more while I was there. Not to mention the fact that every other time I talk to him he's either at the pub, going to the pub, or just back from the pub.

While I was there I had half a pint at the Guiness warehouse, just because I was at the guiness warehouse (he had a coke), we stopped at one place to eat and I had a pina colada, and every other time I asked for a drink he questioned me. He did not have one drink besides a sip of my pina colada because he'd never had one before.

Still, I guess that is more than I normally have in a week, so I guess he did hold up to his word.

[/steriotyping and reminising]

Shoot, when I was in Ireland I was drinking beer (the tall cans) by 12pm on Christmas day.

 

[naxalite0906]

Just ask ShyVixen how much I drink.. lol!


Seriously though, I would probably class myself as a binge drinker. I do enjoy the occaisional drink every now and then (a couple after work, or a few cocktails/drinks during a meal/date etc) but then I go out and I can drink quite a bit. I am normally pretty good at holding it, and I understand my limits as I never go too far, but I still drink alot compared to the average person.
Like today for example, I must of consumed 18 units or so during the day. This would be pretty common for a night out for me, or a day drinking etc. I will be honest, I do enjoy a drink, and it probably is bad for me. But like I said, I know when I have had enough.

As for drink and play etc, this is not common at all. Drinking and sexual play might be, but not BDSM based.

 

[Bi_Kitty]

So... my question is, how many units do people here consume in an average week and how much of that is drunk all in one night or just at the weekend?
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Haven't young people always got too drunk and been a bit stupid with it? Has there really been a huge change in our drinking habits?

I didn't start drinking, more than a sip that is, until I was nearly 21. It all started at a "end of the semester" party that Bunny, I, and another friend decided to throw; that is the ONLY night that I have ever drunk so much that I blacked out. Then for my 21st birthday party, it started on Wednesday and ended on Saturday night, I got drunk ever night with Friday night be the worst of them all.

Nowadays, many young people seem to get drunk to get drunk, not because they enjoy it. When I overhear young people proudly describing how much they puked over the weekend (I used to be a professor, so I've been exposed to lots of young people, even though it's been awhile since I was one ), they aren't talking about pleasure or disinhibition.

When I drink I drink to have a good time, not get sick. Ewwww. My view on that is, why the hell even bother drinking then if you know you are just going to get sick and lose EVERYTHING you just drank? That's just wasting money. And I really see no fun in that. But maybe that's the thing, they are just doing it because that is the "cool" thing to do because everyone else is doing it.

 

[intothewoods]

I drink with meals - a glass or two a night. We don't tend to do elaborate scenes of any sort when drinking.

 

[rosco rathbone]

THe poll is slanted.

I drink, I engage in kinky play. It's not rocket surgery.

 

[Corylea]

THe poll is slanted.

I drink, I engage in kinky play. It's not rocket surgery.

Is "rocket surgery" an intentionally humorous mismatch, or have you been drinking?

When a person is impaired -- be it by strong emotion, fatigue, or a substance -- the inhibitory centers of the frontal lobes are the first to go. That means that the first things to go are the ability to make good judgments, to plan, to exercise foresight, anticipate consequences, and exercise self-control. I don't think I need to say anything more than this to illustrate why many areas consider playing while under the influence of any alcohol to be a just-don't-do-it thing.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Is "rocket surgery" an intentionally humorous mismatch, or have you been drinking?

When a person is impaired -- be it by strong emotion, fatigue, or a substance -- the inhibitory centers of the frontal lobes are the first to go. That means that the first things to go are the ability to make good judgments, to plan, to exercise foresight, anticipate consequences, and exercise self-control. I don't think I need to say anything more than this to illustrate why many areas consider playing while under the influence of any alcohol to be a just-don't-do-it thing.

I also play while under the influence of "strong emotion" aka "you got some splainin to do".

Fatigue, no. I just go to sleep.

 

[the captians wench]

I think there is a difference in kicking back a few then spanking your bottom and having some wild hot kinky monkey sex, and planing out an elaborate demonstration of rope work, cutting, edgeplay, breath play, and suspention after doing jello shots.

When the shop i was with would go to clubs with goods the guys would kick back a few tall boys and then go at me with twin floggers, canes, single tails, and a sajmboc. *shrug* I never felt in any danger.

 

[Puman]

I drink about 1 unit a month. I keep pretty fit, so it only takes one drink to floor me. I occasionally enjoy a good whiskey/bourbon.

 

[HoHoBomb]

I don't drink all of the time but I do like to party.

 

[Keroin]

I only drink when I'm alone or with someone.

 

[YourCaptor]

I go off and on, sometimes I drink ungodly amounts, sometimes none.

Right now I'm at none.

Usually when I travel I drink the most. Start at lunch and keep it up gradually till I pass out about 3 - 4 am. It works for me, good times.

I never do the college drink fest crap though, just not my tyoe.

So I suppose I should 'fess up.

What you can do is start changing your habit. Don't aim for the buzz, drink less, drink something that can make you feel good about yourself, like bloody marys, those are healthy. At the store, just buy less. Or you can mix up some of those nasty hangover cures and trick your body into associating alcohol with those terrible flavors.

I only drink when I'm alone or with someone.

That has all the markings of a translated phrase that does not work in English.

 

[Cattypuss]

That has all the markings of a translated phrase that does not work in English.

No, it has all the markings of a joke made in English that works in English.

 

[MisterSir]

Incidentally, is it just me or would anybody else like to learn rocket surgery now it's been brought?

 

[VelvetDarkness]

[steriotyping in progress]

Oky when I was in Ireland I had expected to be consuming lots of alcohol, both of us to be in all honesty. Not only was this because I was going to be in Ireland (land of flowing beer) but because he had teased me many a time telling me I'd drink a lot more while I was there. Not to mention the fact that every other time I talk to him he's either at the pub, going to the pub, or just back from the pub.

While I was there I had half a pint at the Guiness warehouse, just because I was at the guiness warehouse (he had a coke), we stopped at one place to eat and I had a pina colada, and every other time I asked for a drink he questioned me. He did not have one drink besides a sip of my pina colada because he'd never had one before.

Still, I guess that is more than I normally have in a week, so I guess he did hold up to his word.

[/steriotyping and reminising]

I'm really not Irishist but my immediate family just happen to have a high incidence of long term, debilitating alcoholism. I know for them it's partly to due with upbringing. Also, the remote area where most of them live centres around the local pub and most people drink there most days.

 

[rida]

I used to be a social drinker only, that is I would drink only when out with friends or at parties or dinners and so on. In the last few years thou I've also got to enjoy a glass of wine/beer or cocktail by myself while surfing the web.

Regarding youth and drinking, I've to say that in my college years I drank my fair share I have to say that I used to hold it pretty well, so there is only one episode where I honestly have a blank in my memory (what I did was pretty lame: got out dancing in the rain, got drenched, changed into my pj and borrowed a coat and than tried to sleep in my friend's bed, only because it was more convenient then climbing up to my bunk).

I have a pretty good self-control even when drunk and the silly things I'd do drunk, I'd also do sober so many time I'd be much drunker than what my friend's thought as they could not really notice any difference in my behavior ... until I started puking my soul up. That part was not fun so I always tried to avoid it.

I don't know if youngster drink more now than then, but it seems to me that while we used to drink as part of being together and having fun, nowadays college kids (going by my stepdaughter's tales) just drink for the sake of getting drunk and wasted as fast as possible.

As for alcohol and play:

The Sadist and I have had a drink or two before play (nothing edgy or that needed precision) a few times at the beginning. However I didn't want to risk throwing up on him and he did not want to dull his senses and take unnecessary risks, so we were always very careful on the amount. Now, as the play has got harder, we prefer to go for drinks once we are done, as part of relaxing and aftercare.

With Hubby, there are times when he have had a few glasses of wine before play. But since his favorite play has nothing to do with impact play or physical bondage, the only risk is that he might fall asleep while I'm finishing blowing him

 

[Homburg]

Incidentally, is it just me or would anybody else like to learn rocket surgery now it's been brought?

"Patient appears to have a mild abnormality in the #3 exhaust nozzle. Torsion wrench, please."

"Torsion wrench."

"Ah, that will do it. This rocket will fly again."

 

[sadangel]

In ten years, I've had only one drink. I have a set of 5 rules for drinking. If I cannot follow those five rules, I don't drink. The one drink I had was while at the Battered Women's Shelter a few months ago. I was not only able to follow my five rules, but I had someone who was making sure I had only enough to get a buzz to be able to sleep as I hadn't slept in over 2 weeks. (Literally). I slept that night for a few hours. It helped.

Sir and I have discussed drinking and playing. We both agree. It is a no go. Too many dangers that could happen, even in my opinion, with only one drink. Having lived with an alcoholic for the last 8 years, and the only time she considered any form of sex was after drinking a fifth of whiskey, I have no desire to have sex with someone who is drunk. That's just me.