Draft Kings

[Oh_That_Guy]

Being that it's unregulated, I don't think, for a minute, this was the first instance of cheating, and it won't be the last until it's regulated like Wall Street, but probably better.

Oh, I'm sure employees have done it a lot. I would.
I just don't think it's that much of an edge. Someone already said something to the effect of "if he sees everyone is picking Aaron Rodgers and the guy has a terrible game then the cheater loses like everyone else."
I don't want them to do it and I think they should be punished but I don't worry about it. Not once have I thought I lost due to anyone cheating.

 

[RjThoughts]

Oh, I'm sure employees have done it a lot. I would.
I just don't think it's that much of an edge. Someone already said something to the effect of "if he sees everyone is picking Aaron Rodgers and the guy has a terrible game then the cheater loses like everyone else."
I don't want them to do it and I think they should be punished but I don't worry about it. Not once have I thought I lost due to anyone cheating.

ANY edge is an edge when gambling. Why do you think casinos "ASK" you to leave if you card count at the blackjack tables? It's not illegal, but it gives you an edge.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Five years ago, my wife and I celebrated our 25th anniversary in Atlantic City - wanted to do it in Vegas, but the fucking airlines screwed us with HIGH ticket prices. I went down at 2 in the morning to the floor and just observed people, at the tables and at the slots. It was amazing how people will enjoy themselves when someone's doing well. I put $10 on the pass line at a craps table where people were enjoying themselves, and when I won, I received backslaps and some handshakes.

I won $800 at an Atlantic City craps table one Sunday afternoon some years ago. That was a nice two hours, and still ranks as my best single craps session.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

ANY edge is an edge when gambling. Why do you think casinos "ASK" you to leave if you card count at the blackjack tables? It's not illegal, but it gives you an edge.

Yes, I said it was cheating and I think they should be punished. I just don't worry about it because the edge is negligible.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

I won $800 at an Atlantic City craps table one Sunday afternoon some years ago. That was a nice two hours, and still ranks as my best single craps session.

I won 75.00 at black jack in Vegas a couple years ago and thought I was the card playing king. I even kept a dollar chip as a reminder of how awesome I did.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Yes, I said it was cheating and I think they should be punished. I just don't worry about it because the edge is negligible.

The edge is negligible to you and me because we don't risk very much very often. But if you have an irrefutably proven edge, you are stupid NOT to exploit it in volume. That's what makes it a gold mine!

If you and I flip a coin and I pay you a nickel for every "heads"and you pay me six cents for every "tails," that penny may seem "negligible." After ten flips, the odds say I should be a nickel ahead. But maybe not. You could have had a few more wins and you might be ahead. But that will almost certainly not be the case if we flip 100 times. And definitely not the case if we flip 1,000 times. Casinos are built and operated on this very principle.

The edge with Draft Kings employees is that by knowing in advance what pro players all the fantasy pickers are picking, the insider cheaters are able to choose the best monetary value of whatever players are left. They don't increase their chances of wining by so doing, by they unfairly increase the size of their winnings if they win.

It's similar to a pari-mutual betting pool at the racetrack. Except at the racetrack, all the bettors have access to that information by looking at the tote board in the infield. If you basically like two horses equally that are going off at 4 - 1, it would make a bit more sense to bet the horse that has attracted slightly less total dollar volume in wagers. It won't be much, or they wouldn't both be 4 - 1, but you might get a few extra pennies if he wins because your proportionate share of the win pool is slightly greater on that horse than the other 4-1 nag that attracted more money.

One of the best examples of the "edge" is in the game of casino craps, and neophyte bettors screw this up all the time. I certainly did when I started playing.

Every pass line bet consists of TWO bets -- the basic bet ON the pass line, and the "fee odds bet" behind the line which is typically made when the point number has been established after the "come out" roll. If the point number is successfully rolled before a "seven," the pass line and odds bets will be paid off at different odds!! The pass line bet is always paid off at even money, no matter what the true odds were of the point number being rolled. This actually represents an underpayment. You are always being shortchanged. This represents the house edge.

But the odds bet is paid off at the correct odds! The house has no edge on this bet whatsoever! Thus, a $25 pass line bet on a 2 - 1 payoff (like when the point was 4 or 10) returns $25. But the $100 that a smart player had "behind the line" wins $200.

Therefore, when playing craps, one should ALWAYS bet the bare house minimum ON THE LINE and save your REAL gambling money for the odds bets BEHIND THE LINE.

Anyone who does not do this should have what little brains they have blown out.

Of course, a decent argument can be made for having our brains blown out for gambling at all, but at least if you're going to do it, do it right.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I'm not doing well in my hockey ball contest. I think this thing is rigged!

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Not to mention that the fights are faked.

 

[RjThoughts]

I'm not doing well in my hockey ball contest. I think this thing is rigged!

Hockey's a difficult game to predict.

 

[RjThoughts]

Not to mention that the fights are faked.

Scripted, like Survivor and the WWE

 

[JohnnySavage]

I had a good weekend on my NFL games. So far, it seems like the 50/50 contests with multiple entries using the same lineup is a sound strategy.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Odell Beckham just moved me into the top 500!

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I read that the FBI, Nevada gaming commission and a Congressional committee are shutting the Draft Kings down. Are you able to set a lineup for this coming weekend?

 

[JohnnySavage]

I read that the FBI, Nevada gaming commission and a Congressional committee are shutting the Draft Kings down. Are you able to set a lineup for this coming weekend?

I entered a contest for Sunday, but haven't set my line up yet. I think it's only shut down for Nevada residents. For now.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I thought it was funny that all these government agencies are really just lining up for their cut on the winnings.

 

[ryan8558]

I thought it was funny that all these government agencies are really just lining up for their cut on the winnings.

That's the American way!

 

[RjThoughts]

I read that the FBI, Nevada gaming commission and a Congressional committee are shutting the Draft Kings down. Are you able to set a lineup for this coming weekend?

Residents in Arizona, Iowa, Louisiana, Montana, and Washington can't pay Daily Fantasy. And it appears New York is ready to shut down both Draft Kings and FanDuel.

 

[PeteHulbert37]

Residents in Arizona, Iowa, Louisiana, Montana, and Washington can't pay Daily Fantasy. And it appears New York is ready to shut down both Draft Kings and FanDuel.

Yes, and apparently an employee gave residents instructions for how to get around that. I believe that's why the FBI is involved now. I still say it's a scam of the highest order. If lineups don't get locked in, and I can't see all the other participants players. It's fuggin rigged as hell!

 

[RjThoughts]

Yes, and apparently an employee gave residents instructions for how to get around that. I believe that's why the FBI is involved now. I still say it's a scam of the highest order. If lineups don't get locked in, and I can't see all the other participants players. It's fuggin rigged as hell!

I'm trying to figure out how these sites are based on "skilled." You may have skill to know who to chose, BUT you still need luck for the players to perform well. It's as skillful as horse racing.

Card games at tables take more skill, you need to be able to "read" your opponents.

Dice, slot, and roulette games are skewed to the house: That's "simple" game theory.

 

[Disgustipated]

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/fantasy-sports-trevor-noah

Scroll down to the video, it's on point.

 

[JohnnySavage]

My line-up for week 6


Pos Player FPPG

QB Jay Cutler 15.5
RB Eddie Lacy 9.1
RB Alfred Morris 7.2
WR Julian Edelman 24.3
WR Larry Fitzgerald 25.0
WR Calvin Johnson 13.8
TE Gary Barnidge 17.1
FLEX Jeremy Maclin 19.2
DST 49ers 3.4

Tough week to pick. Cutler??? I picked Cutler???? jebus.

And Alfred Morris... I ran out of money but he's due for a break-out game

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

My line-up for week 6


Pos Player FPPG

QB Jay Cutler 15.5
RB Eddie Lacy 9.1
RB Alfred Morris 7.2
WR Julian Edelman 24.3
WR Larry Fitzgerald 25.0
WR Calvin Johnson 13.8
TE Gary Barnidge 17.1
FLEX Jeremy Maclin 19.2
DST 49ers 3.4

Tough week to pick. Cutler??? I picked Cutler???? jebus.

And Alfred Morris... I ran out of money but he's due for a break-out game

Hope you didn't bet much.
Cutler? And Larry and Calvin will most likely not have a good weekend although Fitzgerald is doing better than I thought he would this year.
Still, you're gonna lose.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Hope you didn't bet much.
Cutler? And Larry and Calvin will most likely not have a good weekend although Fitzgerald is doing better than I thought he would this year.
Still, you're gonna lose.

I skim the projections from several other FF sites like yahoo, espn and fox sports. All of them are predicting Cutler to put up big numbers. With Draft Kings, it's not a matter of picking the best players - anyone can do that. You have to pick the best players while staying under the salary cap.

I won $20 last week and had $1000 left on my salary cap. This week I used every cent of it.

Cutler is causing me some concern though. But it's good to pick a QB and his primary receiver. That doubles up your points.

 

[Oh_That_Guy]

I skim the projections from several other FF sites like yahoo, espn and fox sports. All of them are predicting Cutler to put up big numbers. With Draft Kings, it's not a matter of picking the best players - anyone can do that. You have to pick the best players while staying under the salary cap.

I won $20 last week and had $1000 left on my salary cap. This week I used every cent of it.

Cutler is causing me some concern though. But it's good to pick a QB and his primary receiver. That doubles up your points.

I play it, too and on Fan Duel but no way would I put Cutler in. He is capable of big numbers but not often enough to be worth it. Mariota is a good choice because he's cheap and will put up ok QB numbers. Not great but enough beacuse the real numbers come from RB and WR.
I do agree on matching QB and WR though. It's worked for me in the past. It's also backfired like a bitch.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Cutler and Cousins are the same price. I may swap them out tomorrow...