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Wednesday night's NHL line-up is set. Maybe I'll be a better hockey player than I am a football player.
 
I do Draft Kings and Fan Duel both. I win money overall but not much. I don't play the big money games though because everyone else does and it makes it much harder to finish in the money.
I like the 50/50 games. Better odds as long as you're not a complete idiot and the players do anywhere near their projections.
 
It seems to be almost as manipulated as the stock market.

As to the point in the other thread about government regulation; without a doubt, the government will shut it down and/or tax it and/or regulate it to death - as they've done with everything else that made money. Uncle Sugar doesn't abide interlopers.
 
JohnnySavage said:
It seems to be almost as manipulated as the stock market.

As to the point in the other thread about government regulation; without a doubt, the government will shut it down and/or tax it and/or regulate it to death - as they've done with everything else that made money. Uncle Sugar doesn't abide interlopers.
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Fanduel has a discloser about submitting your winnings to the IRS. I'm sure it's just for their legal E's and covering their asses. Between the rigged winners, the rake, it's such a scam. Look at the worst finishers in big money contests, it's always a bunch of also-ran backups that no real person would submit. Bots, smoke and mirrors and tricks.....................

Oh, and good marketing!
 
My first hockeyball contest is tonight, and I've set a tentative lineup for a 50/50 football contest for the weekend.
 
Caught some of ESPN's Outside the Lines, talking to the Draft Kings' CEO. He looked like a deer in headlights when a lawyers asked him what the difference was between his - and Fan Duel - and other forms of gambling. He tried to give a stock answer - Oh it's a game of skill, while other forms of sports betting are luck - and it failed HORRIBLY.

The two sites are screwed. The insider information and the fact that most of the "winners" are employees of the other site, this smells of bullshit.
 
Of course it's gambling - so is the stock market.

As for the insiders getting an advantage - it's not fair and I hope the two companies really do curb it. But, at the end of the day even if the insiders see that everyone is putting Aaron Rogers on there team, and they do so as well as a result of that information, they are just as screwed as everyone else if Rogers gets hurt in the 1Q

I started off with a deposit of $25 and have $5 left. When it's gone, I'll reevaluate if I want to deposit more. I probably will because it's entertaining me. I also spend $10 a week on Powerball tickets for the entertainment value.
 
I limit my gambling to actual tactile places and things.

I purchase $2 and $5 scratch-off tickets once a month, maybe.
I go to Turning Stone Casino for a few hours, limited to $40 at the most for the penny slots, before going onto Syracuse and the Destiny USA mall
If I want to wager on sports, I see a small business man, aka a BOOKIE LOL
Oh, and if I want to spend 3-4 hours playing cards, I go to a cousin's house and we play poker, penny, nickle, dime, quarter poker.

Online gambling to me, as a LONG LONG time programmer, has far too many ways of cheating.
 
RjThoughts said:
I limit my gambling to actual tactile places and things.

I purchase $2 and $5 scratch-off tickets once a month, maybe.
I go to Turning Stone Casino for a few hours, limited to $40 at the most for the penny slots, before going onto Syracuse and the Destiny USA mall
If I want to wager on sports, I see a small business man, aka a BOOKIE LOL
Oh, and if I want to spend 3-4 hours playing cards, I go to a cousin's house and we play poker, penny, nickle, dime, quarter poker.

Online gambling to me, as a LONG LONG time programmer, has far too many ways of cheating.
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Scratch offs, while tactile are also programmed and either winners or not according to a computer somewhere.

Maryland has 5 or 6 casinos, and MGM is spending a billion dollars to build another one. I'm not a people person though and have no desire to visit one and mingle among the masses

I don't know any bookies, and I would imagine collecting winnings could be problematic.

I don't have a cousin.

I play fantasy sports anyway, so throwing a few bucks at it isn't a big deal for me. I suspect though, its days are numbered. Anytime Uncle Sugar sees money changing hands he is either going to want a cut off the top, or regulate it into oblivion.
 
JohnnySavage said:
Scratch offs, while tactile are also programmed and either winners or not according to a computer somewhere.

Maryland has 5 or 6 casinos, and MGM is spending a billion dollars to build another one. I'm not a people person though and have no desire to visit one and mingle among the masses

I don't know any bookies, and I would imagine collecting winnings could be problematic.

I don't have a cousin.

I play fantasy sports anyway, so throwing a few bucks at it isn't a big deal for me. I suspect though, its days are numbered. Anytime Uncle Sugar sees money changing hands he is either going to want a cut off the top, or regulate it into oblivion.
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The sites need to be regulated. Look at the shit the employees are pulling off, akin to insider trading.

The small time bookies, the ones that do not accept the thousand dollar bets you see on tv and in movies, abound around here. I grew up having one next door to me, I use his successor when I want to put a few bucks on the Super Bowl or the Stanley Cup.

My city was awarded the right to build a casino. It's going to be smallish, not huge, to begin with. I'll visit it to play the penny slots like the old women do. I love being out with people.

My son's figured that I've broken even with my scratch-offs, since I only purchase one of two at a time, and with the winnings, I spend that money on lunch or if over $20, on my wife LOL
 
There's nothing more fun than casino craps, and if you do it right, the house edge is negligible. That's not a great reason to play, but....

I don't think my bad back would let me stand at the rail for several hours these days, but it is an entertaining game, and since most people play the line and are betting on the same result, there is a good sense of camaraderie among the players.
 
Colonel Hogan said:
There's nothing more fun than casino craps, and if you do it right, the house edge is negligible. That's not a great reason to play, but....

I don't think my bad back would let me stand at the rail for several hours these days, but it is an entertaining game, and since most people play the line and are betting on the same result, there is a good sense of camaraderie among the players.
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Five years ago, my wife and I celebrated our 25th anniversary in Atlantic City - wanted to do it in Vegas, but the fucking airlines screwed us with HIGH ticket prices. I went down at 2 in the morning to the floor and just observed people, at the tables and at the slots. It was amazing how people will enjoy themselves when someone's doing well. I put $10 on the pass line at a craps table where people were enjoying themselves, and when I won, I received backslaps and some handshakes.
 
I am convinced their cheating is far more than just a release of information that should be available anyway. All lineups are concealed until the final game kicks off on MNF so that lineups can be altered. It's fucking nuts that anyone would trust that!!!!

Only way I would ever play again is if the contest is for the entire week, Lineups are locked in prior to 8pm est on Thursday and contest closed at that time. Then, at kick-off of the Thursday night game ALL lineups are viewable. Also, I would prefer that game to be single entry, but they cheat on that too. They won't do that.

It's also different than regular FFL as the club that I am in, all money is paid out. There is no "rake".
 
I finished 7 points out of the money in my hockey contest last night. I had Chicago's goalie and he got lit up. Too many players in hockey to keep track of, plus it was hard (for me) to research what players will be playing on a specific night.

I have a pretty good line up for this weekend's football contest, and $5 left to try something else.
 
I spent my last $5 on a hockey ball line up for tonight. Fuck me if I didn't put Cindy Crosby in my line up
 
Ricky_Champagne said:
I am convinced their cheating is far more than just a release of information that should be available anyway. All lineups are concealed until the final game kicks off on MNF so that lineups can be altered. It's fucking nuts that anyone would trust that!!!!

Only way I would ever play again is if the contest is for the entire week, Lineups are locked in prior to 8pm est on Thursday and contest closed at that time. Then, at kick-off of the Thursday night game ALL lineups are viewable. Also, I would prefer that game to be single entry, but they cheat on that too. They won't do that.

It's also different than regular FFL as the club that I am in, all money is paid out. There is no "rake".
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Lineups are hidden until you set yours and submit. Once you do that you can see everyone elses because you can't change them.
I don't think you're playing the same game.
 
The cheating scandal isn't really that big of a deal. It's cheating, yes but the guy is just getting the same info as everyone else but he could do it sooner. It gives him an edge but not that much of one. One player doing under projection and another that most didn't pick doing way over projection and the whole thing is screwed and Grandma Betty wins the top prize.

That's not to say they aren't cheating in other ways but nobody has seen that yet.
 
Oh_That_Guy said:
The cheating scandal isn't really that big of a deal. It's cheating, yes but the guy is just getting the same info as everyone else but he could do it sooner. It gives him an edge but not that much of one. One player doing under projection and another that most didn't pick doing way over projection and the whole thing is screwed and Grandma Betty wins the top prize.

That's not to say they aren't cheating in other ways but nobody has seen that yet.
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Being that it's unregulated, I don't think, for a minute, this was the first instance of cheating, and it won't be the last until it's regulated like Wall Street, but probably better.
 
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