Donald J Trump outlining part of his plan to make America great again...

[Sean]

Wall Street Journal...

Yeah, Rupert Murdoch publications are famous for their unbiased coverage.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://imghaven.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/brandonvictordavis-twitter-17mar2012.jpg

Funny how you and a few other pressed basics here keep thinking this bullshit means something.

I can post a tweet with meaning, though:

https://img42.com/ryPji+

WHAT A SPINELESS PUSSY.

How quick did the Almighty Cheetos God roll over there, eh?

 

[BotanyBoy]

This from the completely sane and non-paranoid person who thinks Liberals forced Kanye into a mental breakdown (I have a voodoo doll of him btw).

[/I]

Where did you come up with that shit?

I've never said shit about Kanye who gives a fuck ya fuckin' nut.

What do you consider an honest/unbiased news source?

I don't think there are any, just degrees of bias.

BBC world news imo has some of the least biased reporting, Aljazeera does ok with most stuff as long as it's not politics concerning Israel. I think they are a little more than biased against them, but you can see that they at least try to keep it objective.

On the other end of the scale you have rags like Salon and Breitbart (among a few others such as NYT/LAT) that are little more than propaganda machines, they are partisan cheer squads and little more.

CNN and FAUX are somewhere just above the propaganda rags.

They will report real shit and facts. But they obviously have ZERO problem with spinning that fucker to the very very outer limits.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why is biased worse than dishonest? Which being unbiased generally requires.

 

[Magnetron]

Sounds to me like someone is bitter because his dreams of becoming a legalized pot farmer were crushed.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

YOu mentioned Kanye over in the Politics forum. Something about "oppressing his free speech."

But no matter: you and the others here spew endless false depictions of libtards, Hillary, Obama. On and on and on and on and on. And blacks, and women, and everyone else you've decided to caricature. It's been going on for 20 years or more. Where do you come up with your shit? (Answer: Fox News.)

Where did you come up with that shit?

I've never said shit about Kanye who gives a fuck ya fuckin' nut.



I don't think there are any, just degrees of bias.

BBC world news imo has some of the least biased reporting, Aljazeera does ok with most stuff as long as it's not politics concerning Israel. I think they are a little more than biased against them, but you can see that they at least try to keep it objective.

On the other end of the scale you have rags like Salon and Breitbart (among a few others such as NYT/LAT) that are little more than propaganda machines, they are partisan cheer squads and little more.

CNN and FAUX are somewhere just above the propaganda rags.

They will report real shit and facts. But they obviously have ZERO problem with spinning that fucker to the very very outer limits.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Why is biased worse than dishonest? Which being unbiased generally requires.

I don't think it is, and I don't think it does.

Sounds to me like someone is bitter because his dreams of becoming a legalized pot farmer were crushed.

Well yea, elitist Democrats only want cool kids to get permits, fuck poor people.

That's how California Democrats do things

It's ok though, that just makes the black market all the richer.

Where do you come up with your shit? (Answer: Fox News.)

I don't watch any network shit unless it just happens to be on in the airport or while I'm getting my tires replaced or some other shit where it's the only thing on.

So there goes your whole load of "ohhhh I'm such a VICTIM!!! A VICTIM DAMN IT!!!" right out the window.

 

[Hypoxia]

Why is biased worse than dishonest? Which being unbiased generally requires.

I raise that point (well, I used to, when we were still talking) with my Trumpnik relatives. Okay, so you don't like their perspective, but are they wrong? Are they incorrect, maybe just lying? Maybe the news you follow isn't carried elsewhere because it's utter bullshit?

...you and the others here spew endless false depictions of libtards, Hillary, Obama. On and on and on and on and on. And blacks, and women, and everyone else you've decided to caricature. It's been going on for 20 years or more. Where do you come up with your shit? (Answer: Fox News.)

And its related echo chamber. It started pre-Murdoch, with rightist Think Tanks generating bogus documentation, and hate radio filling the airwaves. But Fox and Clear Channel were indeed the main Frankensteins building their monster. We know how *that* story ended.

The right and alt-right have no real policies to promote, so they resort to character assassination and verifiable bullshit to denounce those they don't like... who increasingly are rightists and reactionaries who aren't quite rabid enough. Glenn Beck is now the rational voice of the right. Whoa.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I raise that point (well, I used to, when we were still talking) with my Trumpnik relatives. Okay, so you don't like their perspective, but are they wrong? Are they incorrect, maybe just lying? Maybe the news you follow isn't carried elsewhere because it's utter bullshit?

And its related echo chamber. It started pre-Murdoch, with rightist Think Tanks generating bogus documentation, and hate radio filling the airwaves. But Fox and Clear Channel were indeed the main Frankensteins building their monster. We know how *that* story ended.

The right and alt-right have no real policies to promote, so they resort to character assassination and verifiable bullshit to denounce those they don't like... who increasingly are rightists and reactionaries who aren't quite rabid enough. Glenn Beck is now the rational voice of the right. Whoa.

That was almost a textbook example of character assassination.

People can think radically different about issues than you do completely without the aid and assistance of FOX News.

 

[Conager]

The desperate one of the Democrats sure is delicious. Yesterday they were murmuring about how a "computer expert" was talking to the Clinton Camp about how the election might have been stolen by the Russians and you better go demand a recount...

Here is the actual numnuts:

https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-election-was-hacked-look-at-the-ballots-c61a6113b0ba#.2vzn638wy

Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked

He has less than no actual stated reason to suspect anything. Merely clinging to desperate hope. The headline might have been just as well read "Plumber urges Clinton to demand a recount" because that's the only way you're going to be able to check for fraud.

He didn't examine any machines has no special expertise or experience with the software involved knows absolutely nothing about what was or wasn't done what is or isn't possible has this idea that Russians might have broken into all of these physical locations gotten into the machines which are not connected to the internet and individually inserted some malware that then erased itself.

There's a reason these machines are not hooked up to the Internet and there's a reason that they are kept under lock and key. I have no doubt that at some point the Democrats will figure out how to hack them when they are left alone with these machines. Just like they do with empty ballot boxes when they're left alone with them. Apparently, they were not able to stop enough provisional ballots into the boxes this year to make the difference which is why they're frustrated.

He reads just about like Hypoxia's delusional story ideas about the Electoral College just deciding to give the election to Hillary Clinton after all.

I think someone should send him an invitation to join the general board. He could join the left wing, sitting around like a bunch of homosexuals circle jerking, bro patrol.

 

[Conager]

That was almost a textbook example of character assassination.

People can think radically different about issues than you do completely without the aid and assistance of FOX News.

You have to be deficient in logic and suffer from innumeracy or simply not care about the future in order to believe the things that the DNC pushes.

It's very important to their self-esteem that they be thought of as the Smart Ones. They're still dining out 10 years later on that idiotic study alleging that Fox News viewers were less informed on current events. As if that's the benchmark for intelligence.

Their self-esteem firewall is: fox news viewers are stupid, conservatives watch fox news, therefore conservatives, whether they do or do not watch fox news are stupid.

Leaving aside the idiocy that not watching their preferred branded propaganda outlets somehow magically causes people to lose IQ points the above reasoning simply doesn't hold up.

A subset of Fox viewers are conservative. A subset of conservatives are Fox viewers. A subset of a alleged (but not actually tracked for viewership) Fox viewers were found to be less informed on 10 current events questions. It does not then follow that all conservatives are less intelligent than all liberals. Which is what they are assertng and they assert this pretty much every time their egos are offended which tells you how important this backstop is to them.

Hypoxia still keeps harping on the pre-election meme that Trump support is all from uneducated people despite the fact that in the actual election Trump won the "educated" man vote and split the "educated" women vote.

They don't even understand the concept that people can prefer a different policy than them for any number of reasons and that doesn't make that preference for that policy somehow wrong or uneducated.

I hope they keep it up. I hope they keep hammering home how stupid everybody that isn't them is because as was demonstrated in this election Trump voters were smart enough to show up at the polls and push the button. That's all it takes.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Reread some Hoffer this evening.

He would say that with the intellectual's demand for more education that there are more intellectual's and unfortunately not enough bureaucracy jobs to go around, so in their frustration at not being able to rule our lives from government leads them to become bullies who try to run our lives by force of sheer volume of language designed to make us ashamed of who we are and knuckle under their demands.

 

[Conager]

Reread some Hoffer this evening.

He would say that with the intellectual's demand for more education that there are more intellectual's and unfortunately not enough bureaucracy jobs to go around, so in their frustration at not being able to rule our lives from government leads them to become bullies who try to run our lives by force of sheer volume of language designed to make us ashamed of who we are and knuckle under their demands.

The majority of them would not fit in my own personal definition of an intellectual. Sitting for four, six or even eight years in academia being indoctrinated, reading only those books on the required reading lists and not cracking a book since college doesn't sound like the life of an intellectual to me.

Every once in awhile you meet a liberal who has their principles and their reasons for preferring those policies and actually is well-read, well reasoned and able to follow an analogy, understands reason and the principles of logic and can hold an actual conversation. I don't find it to be the norm. I need to find better liberals.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The majority of them would not fit in my own personal definition of an intellectual. Sitting for four, six or even eight years in academia being indoctrinated, reading only those books on the required reading lists and not cracking a book since college doesn't sound like the life of an intellectual to me.

Every once in awhile you meet a liberal who has their principles and their reasons for preferring those policies and actually is well-read, well reasoned and able to follow an analogy, understands reason and the principles of logic and can hold an actual conversation. I don't find it to be the norm. I need to find better liberals.

It's not what anyone other than themselves consider.

It is inherent in their posting style that their adopted attitudes and cultural choices make them far superior people to those who do not share their values and superior simply implies smarter.

(College-educated male who did not vote for Hillary.)

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Why yes they can, but the issue was the extremely false and distorted caricature of the left, i.e. LIBERALS, LIBTARDS, etc

Funny how these "alternative" views and language come STRAIGHT OUT OF A FOX PLAYBOOK

What a coinky dink


GAWD the WHIINNNEEE


STOP PICKING ON US "JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DIFFERENT FROM YOU"

Sucks, doesn't it?

That was almost a textbook example of character assassination.

People can think radically different about issues than you do completely without the aid and assistance of FOX News.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That was as incoherent a rant as anyone of us has experience over all of these years at Lit.

"At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

 

[Lancecastor]

Reread some Hoffer this evening.

He would say that with the intellectual's demand for more education that there are more intellectual's and unfortunately not enough bureaucracy jobs to go around, so in their frustration at not being able to rule our lives from government leads them to become bullies who try to run our lives by force of sheer volume of language designed to make us ashamed of who we are and knuckle under their demands.

That's an interesting theory to describe liberal arts degree holder angst.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That's an interesting theory to describe liberal arts degree holder angst.

It was a touchstone in many of his essays.

The Scribe Class does not advance in a meritocracy (and they seethe), so they will spend all of their energies on going back to the past and establishing an aristocracy that needs them to rule for them by their various edicts and interpretations of law, more and approved custom.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Why, imagine that.

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/...every-outlet-other-than-fox-as-fake/21613106/

"Sean Hannity rips basically every outlet other than Fox as 'fake news'"

Shocker!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Even the original author of the "fake news" expose was exposed as using fakery to proclaim fake news...

No one believes that fake (biased) news changed the outcome of the election.

The people saw through it...

 

[Conager]

Why, imagine that.

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/...every-outlet-other-than-fox-as-fake/21613106/

"Sean Hannity rips basically every outlet other than Fox as 'fake news'"

Shocker!

Do you watch Fox News a lot?

I have heard that watching Fox News can make you stupid.

 

[Adre]

Do you watch Fox News a lot?

I have heard that watching Fox News can make you stupid.

I'm pretty sure the stupid comes first.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Did you call the election for Trump based upon the non-Fox reporting and polling?

 

[Conager]

I'm pretty sure the stupid comes first.

I defer to your expertise in congenital stupidity.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I defer to your expertise in congenital stupidity.

Oh, ~snap~!