Do you think Mueller should be fired?

[BoyNextDoor]

Mueller's charge is to investigate any Russian interference in the 2016 ELECTION. So far, he's batting zero for that. Even the 13 Russians weren't indicted for election interference.

That is specifically what they were indicted for. READ IT

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Steve Bannon:

"This is all about money laundering," Wolff quotes Bannon saying. "Their path to fuck Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr. and Jared Kushner." For good measure he added, "It's as plain as a hair on your face."

"It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner stuff," Bannon adds. "The Kushner shit is greasy. They're going to go right through that."

Bannon then roasts the Trump White House for how ill-prepared it is to take on Mueller's team: "They're sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five."

You seem to be forgetting that Manafort was Trump's 2016 CAMPAIGN MANAGER. (Pretend that's in flashing neon light.) Just hang on. The financial crimes are all going towards motive.

Oh, eek, I'm meanspirited and spiteful, oh my goodness. You're such a precious little snow bunny snowflake.

LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!

Lol, do you even read what you write?

Mueller's charge is to investigate any Russian interference in the 2016 ELECTION. So far, he's batting zero for that. Even the 13 Russians weren't indicted for election interference.

Now you want to stick in things where Manafort was indicted for financial crimes as support for Mueller going after the same sort of evidence on Trump.

How is that "investigating Russian interference in the 2016 elections? Answer; it's not. It's so far beyond the intended scope of Mueller's investigation he's left reality and has landed on some fantasy world where he thinks no one notices how far afield he's gone.

Yes, he does have the authority, that's not the question. The question is whether he should be looking there. To the minds of a lot of American's he's wasting political capitol and our taxpayer money chasing phantom rabbits down holes.

Your support for this makes what you post nothing more than drivel. It's hate driven and spiteful because you're a sore loser. And now you're gleefully overjoyed that Mueller has official permission to harass the President of the United States, abuse his personal and professional privacy, and microscopically examine every detail of his life in the effort to find something to justify your meanspiritedness.

Just so you can say you were right all along.

Of a choice between you and Trump, I know where my vote would go again. I suspect a lot of votes would join mine. You? Not so many.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I’m not so sure about that, we shall see.

http://time.com/5177627/brad-parscale-donald-trump-campaign-manager/

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...ling-facebook-had-links-to-russian-university

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ytica-christopher-wylie-facebook-trump-russia

 

[richard_daily]

Mueller's charge is to investigate any Russian interference in the 2016 ELECTION. So far, he's batting zero for that. Even the 13 Russians weren't indicted for election interference.

Wrong.

That was the initial reason for the inquiries. However, any and all other illegal activity is also on the table. It looks like money laundering will be what they nail these anti-american scumbags on.

 

[Hypoxia]

Mueller's charge is to investigate any Russian interference in the 2016 ELECTION.

And any crimes uncovered while investigating that. Don't edit; you leave out too much.

 

[HisArpy]

That is specifically what they were indicted for. READ IT

*knee slap*

HEY GENIUS, go read your own source. They were indicted for "conspiracy to defraud the United States".

That's not "interference with the 2016 election." NOR is it "collusion with the Trump campaign." You'll ALSO NOTE that the facts that are alleged to support the indictment fall under the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution Free Speech Clause whereby ANYONE can buy advertising for any purpose so long as it doesn't run afoul of laws prohibiting certain kinds of speech in certain specific ways (such as hawking cigarettes to minors and so on).

The indictment is worthless on it's face.

 

[HisArpy]

And any crimes uncovered while investigating that. Don't edit; you leave out too much.

You should take your own advice. I SPECIFICALLY SAID:

Yes, he does have the authority, that's not the question. The question is whether he should be looking there. To the minds of a lot of American's he's wasting political capitol and our taxpayer money chasing phantom rabbits down holes.

So, either you can't read, can't reason, can't summarize, can't retain knowledge, or you're just stupid.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

*knee slap*

HEY GENIUS, go read your own source. They were indicted for "conspiracy to defraud the United States".

That's not "interference with the 2016 election." NOR is it "collusion with the Trump campaign." You'll ALSO NOTE that the facts that are alleged to support the indictment fall under the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution Free Speech Clause whereby ANYONE can buy advertising for any purpose so long as it doesn't run afoul of laws prohibiting certain kinds of speech in certain specific ways (such as hawking cigarettes to minors and so on).

The indictment is worthless on it's face.

You got to the "defraud" part and stopped reading didn't you? It very specifically says for influencing the 2016 presidential election.

From in or around 2014 to the present, Defendants

knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful
functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the US.
political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.

 

[Captainnumnuts]

Has Donnie the Don fired him yet? LibDems want to know.

 

[HisArpy]

Steve Bannon:



You seem to be forgetting that Manafort was Trump's 2016 CAMPAIGN MANAGER. (Pretend that's in flashing neon light.) Just hang on. The financial crimes are all going towards motive.

Oh, eek, I'm meanspirited and spiteful, oh my goodness. You're such a precious little snow bunny snowflake.

LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!

I believe you are indeed mean spirited. You post shit and try to make it sound like it doesn't stink when everyone can see that it's nothing but vitriol over the fact that your favored candidate LOST.

You show it in the terms you use when you discuss events. You show it in the way you fail to acknowledge facts and instead divert to baseless accusations. You show it in the way you deflect to "but but but Hillary!" and similar phrases (as above) anytime someone makes a point that you can't refute. You prove it by the continued inane accusations of criminal conduct for which there is NO EVIDENCE.

Manafort's ALLEGED crimes (let's pretend THAT'S right up there flashing in red neon letters right alongside the "innocent until PROVEN guilty" thing) are all offenses PRIOR TO his very short participation in the campaign. Anything HE did prior to the campaign has NO BEARING on the campaign or Trump unless there is some conspiracy connection between him and Trump. IF there had been, Mueller would have indicted him on those facts. Mueller didn't. Ergo, there ISN'T anything there there. That you insist there is, without any evidence to support it, once again shows your true colors.

You fail to reason. You fail at basic analytical examination. You SUCK at critical thinking because you are all too ready to believe what you're told so long as it comports with what you want to believe. What you're good at is making yourself look like an easy mark. All you do is spout the political hate agenda of the Democrats with no thought of what any of it means because the stars in your eyes outshine the synaptic changes in your brain. The worst part is that you're not even being paid to whore yourself for them, you do it for free. There's only 1 reason anyone would do that and it's not because they're kind and generous souls.

Cue the pithy deflection.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

The 33% or less of Americans are probably the same types who thought Nixon didn't do anything wrong.

I, for one, want to know about OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, which is one of those "related" crimes following from the probe into Russian collusion. This covers his firing of Comey, colluding with the House Intel Committee, pressuring the heads of Intel to end the probe, and anything else he's doing to undermine law enforcement and the Justice System. Because I'm an "American."

I want to know why Flynn was allowed to stay on for 18 days as "National Security Advisor" after being shown to be a security risk. WTF? It's OUR National Security.

I want to know if Flynn promised to lift Sanctions in exchange for Russian interference = collusion.

I want to know why Trump took a private meeting with Russian Diplomats in the Oval Office and told them "now the pressure is off" after firing Comey.

I want to know if Putin put the nix on Mitt Romney as SofS and what other things Putin's meddling with in the Trump White House.

I want to know if Jared Kushner has been conducting personal financial business using his WH authority. WTF!

I want to know what Trump is hiding in his tax returns.

And so much more.

I guarantee you the other 65% of patriotic Americans want to know.

The 33% of Dumb Shits who don't care are the same ones who blindly follow Trump. Fuck 'em.

Yes, he does have the authority, that's not the question. The question is whether he should be looking there. To the minds of a lot of American's he's wasting political capitol and our taxpayer money chasing phantom rabbits down holes.

 

[HisArpy]

You got to the "defraud" part and stopped reading didn't you? It very specifically says for influencing the 2016 presidential election.

From in or around 2014 to the present, Defendants

knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful
functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the US.
political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.

The "purpose of interfering with the US.political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016" thing are ALLEGED FACTS being used to support the CHARGES.

These are not the same thing as "being indicted for". And, as I said, there's that pesky 1st amendment thing.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

The "purpose of interfering with the US.political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016" thing are ALLEGED FACTS being used to support the CHARGES.

These are not the same thing as "being indicted for". And, as I said, there's that pesky 1st amendment thing.

That is exactly what they are being indicted for. Fucks sake. You just can't be this dumb. It's right in front of you.

 

[HisArpy]

The 33% or less of Americans are probably the same types who thought Nixon didn't do anything wrong.

I, for one, want to know about OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, which is one of those "related" crimes following from the probe into Russian collusion. This covers his firing of Comey, colluding with the House Intel Committee, pressuring the heads of Intel to end the probe, and anything else he's doing to undermine law enforcement and the Justice System. Because I'm an "American."

I want to know why Flynn was allowed to stay on for 18 days as "National Security Advisor" after being shown to be a security risk. WTF? It's OUR National Security.

I want to know if Flynn promised to lift Sanctions in exchange for Russian interference = collusion.

I want to know why Trump took a private meeting with Russian Diplomats in the Oval Office and told them "now the pressure is off" after firing Comey.

I want to know if Putin put the nix on Mitt Romney as SofS and what other things Putin's meddling with in the Trump White House.

I want to know if Jared Kushner has been conducting personal financial business using his WH authority. WTF!

I want to know what Trump is hiding in his tax returns.

And so much more.

I guarantee you the other 65% of patriotic Americans want to know.

The 33% of Dumb Shits who don't care are the same ones who blindly follow Trump. Fuck 'em.

Iif you actually could think beyond what you've been told, you'd know that Trump's actions are LEGAL. They may look bad, but that doesn't mean they're unlawful. What YOU and others may believe is the "reason he did it" is irrelevant unless you have FACTS to support that belief. So far the facts we have don't.

This is all designed to take the eye off the ball, namely did TRUMP collude with the Russians to affect the election. You have no evidence of that. Nor does Mueller. Nor does Congress.

The rest of your speel is more of your typical nonsense. Such as the part about you wanting the tax returns. Trump doesn't HAVE to produce his tax returns to satisfy your prurient interests in his financial affairs. That you HAVE TO HAVE THEM or else he's "hiding something" once again shows your ineptitude in logical processing of facts.


Like I said, you deflect when you can't prove your point.

 

[Sean]

Iif you actually could think beyond what you've been told, you'd know that Trump's actions are LEGAL. They may look bad, but that doesn't mean they're unlawful. What YOU and others may believe is the "reason he did it" is irrelevant unless you have FACTS to support that belief. So far the facts we have don't.

This is all designed to take the eye off the ball, namely did TRUMP collude with the Russians to affect the election. You have no evidence of that. Nor does Mueller. Nor does Congress.

The rest of your speel is more of your typical nonsense. Such as the part about you wanting the tax returns. Trump doesn't HAVE to produce his tax returns to satisfy your prurient interests in his financial affairs. That you HAVE TO HAVE THEM or else he's "hiding something" once again shows your ineptitude in logical processing of facts.


Like I said, you deflect when you can't prove your point.

Obstruction of justice isn't legal, Tim. Thought you could have found that out using your awesome internet skilz.

 

[HisArpy]

That is exactly what they are being indicted for. Fucks sake. You just can't be this dumb. It's right in front of you.

Trust me, they weren't "indicted" for "interference." It's a technicality but technicalities are the soul of the law.

Think about it this way, could they be tried and found guilty of "Interfering with the election"? Or would they only be found guilty of "Conspiracy to defraud the US"?

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Trust me, they weren't "indicted" for "interference." It's a technicality but technicalities are the soul of the law.

Think about it this way, could they be tried and found guilty of "Interfering with the election"? Or would they only be found guilty of "Conspiracy to defraud the US"?

oh wow.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Blah blah blah.

I bring up LOCK HER UP because it's a pithy reminder of the spiteful, mean-spirited, misogynistic and racist campaign Trump ran and you people cheered on.

You have zero standing to whine about other people being vindictive, mean, and nasty. You have zero standing to whine about people wanting to put Trump in jail (ha ha ha ha). You have zero standing to whine about poor little Trump being a victim.

Like I said, when Trump gets the ass-fucking coming his way, no one will ever have deserved it more. You people have selective amnesia and blindness towards what an abusive, sick, hate-filled monster you put in office, but the rest of us do not. Not to mention a wanna-be dictator who is trying to destroy the government.

You want to argue the facts, go ahead, but spare us the pity party. Poor Donnie, stop picking on him! Leave Donnie aloooonnnnee. He'd be such a GREAT president if only the media stopped "picking" on him waaa waaa waaa.

Just a reminder: Poor lil Donnie would not have Mueller on his ass if HE hadn't fucked himself over by firing Comey "because of this Russher thing." All his doing, lol.

I believe you are indeed mean spirited. You post shit and try to make it sound like it doesn't stink when everyone can see that it's nothing but vitriol over the fact that your favored candidate LOST.

You show it in the terms you use when you discuss events. You show it in the way you fail to acknowledge facts and instead divert to baseless accusations. You show it in the way you deflect to "but but but Hillary!" and similar phrases (as above) anytime someone makes a point that you can't refute. You prove it by the continued inane accusations of criminal conduct for which there is NO EVIDENCE.

Manafort's ALLEGED crimes (let's pretend THAT'S right up there flashing in red neon letters right alongside the "innocent until PROVEN guilty" thing) are all offenses PRIOR TO his very short participation in the campaign. Anything HE did prior to the campaign has NO BEARING on the campaign or Trump unless there is some conspiracy connection between him and Trump. IF there had been, Mueller would have indicted him on those facts. Mueller didn't. Ergo, there ISN'T anything there there. That you insist there is, without any evidence to support it, once again shows your true colors.

You fail to reason. You fail at basic analytical examination. You SUCK at critical thinking because you are all too ready to believe what you're told so long as it comports with what you want to believe. What you're good at is making yourself look like an easy mark. All you do is spout the political hate agenda of the Democrats with no thought of what any of it means because the stars in your eyes outshine the synaptic changes in your brain. The worst part is that you're not even being paid to whore yourself for them, you do it for free. There's only 1 reason anyone would do that and it's not because they're kind and generous souls.

Cue the pithy deflection.

 

[Hypoxia]

The fox nears the henhouse. The chickens frantically flutter and cackle. No surprise.

 

[Comshaw]

Lol, do you even read what you write?

Mueller's charge is to investigate any Russian interference in the 2016 ELECTION. So far, he's batting zero for that. Even the 13 Russians weren't indicted for election interference.

Now you want to stick in things where Manafort was indicted for financial crimes as support for Mueller going after the same sort of evidence on Trump.

How is that "investigating Russian interference in the 2016 elections? Answer; it's not. It's so far beyond the intended scope of Mueller's investigation he's left reality and has landed on some fantasy world where he thinks no one notices how far afield he's gone.

Yes, he does have the authority, that's not the question. The question is whether he should be looking there. To the minds of a lot of American's he's wasting political capitol and our taxpayer money chasing phantom rabbits down holes.

Your support for this makes what you post nothing more than drivel. It's hate driven and spiteful because you're a sore loser. And now you're gleefully overjoyed that Mueller has official permission to harass the President of the United States, abuse his personal and professional privacy, and microscopically examine every detail of his life in the effort to find something to justify your meanspiritedness.

Just so you can say you were right all along.

Of a choice between you and Trump, I know where my vote would go again. I suspect a lot of votes would join mine. You? Not so many.

Here's the letter of appointment from Rosenstein.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.pdf

And here is exactly what he was charged with investigating.

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump;

and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation;

and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).



§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.

(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

I think you might want to backup and take another look at your assertions. You are ignoring the fact that Mueller was given an open ended mandate. He can investigate anything no matter what it is or where it leads. Fishing expedition? Maybe, but it appears he's filling the hold with a pretty good catch so far and he isn't done yet. As far as the president and Russian collusion, no one knows what he has because he and his team are professional enough to know when to keep their mouth shut, unlike most of Trump's administration.

Also, as Trey Gowdy has said to Trump's attorney,"If you have an innocent client....act like it."

That can go for the entire administration, If you're innocent, act like it.

Otherwise......tic.....tic....tic.....

 

[Hypoxia]

That can go for the entire administration, If you're innocent, act like it.

Tromp's career is as a showman. Is the guilty act a show? A long-ago rumor held that Tromp's goal in this political game was the destruction of the (R) party and he seems to be accomplishing that. Still, all those indictments and guilty pleas piling up...

 

[DawnODay]

Discussing the Mueller probe, highly respected constitutional scholar and left-leaning Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz explained:

First of all, the president's 100% right. There never should have been an appointment of special counsel here. There was no probable cause at that point to believe that crimes had been committed. I've seen no evidence to suggest that crimes have been committed by the president.​

I. Schwartz, Dershowitz: Trump 100% Right There Never Should Have Been Special Counsel, No Probable Cause, Real Clear Politics (Mar. 21, 2018).

 

[colddiesel]

Discussing the Mueller probe, highly respected constitutional scholar and left-leaning Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz explained:

First of all, the president's 100% right. There never should have been an appointment of special counsel here. There was no probable cause at that point to believe that crimes had been committed. I've seen no evidence to suggest that crimes have been committed by the president.​

21, 2018).

Hmm Dershowitz - wasn't he the supersmart lawyer who was alledged to have had sex with an underage girl (Virginia Roberts). He called her a liar and threatened to sue her. She called his bluff and sued him, and guess what, he settled out of court.

"Highly respected" of course.

 

[about_average]

You're an idiot, you know that?

Trump does business deals around the world. The documents that Mueller is asking for are about Trump wanting to build a Trump hotel in Moscow. That's PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. The paperwork deals with that, nothing more, nothing less.

But but but, MUELLAR wants them! There must be some criminal behavior there or he wouldn't be subpoenaing them! MOAR jail time for Trump!

That's your starting and ending point on anything Trump or politics. It's nothing more than spiteful "Trump's going to jail" hysteria without any brain power behind it. I bet you're auditioning for a position on The View, right?

And attempting to do business in violation of the law.
The bank he was trying to set up a loan with is sanctioned by the US and it's illegal for any person or business in the US to do business with them.
- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...of-moscow-hit-by-u-s-sanctions-against-russia

Hmm Dershowitz - wasn't he the supersmart lawyer who was alledged to have had sex with an underage girl (Virginia Roberts). He called her a liar and threatened to sue her. She called his bluff and sued him, and guess what, he settled out of court.

"Highly respected" of course.

I'm sure he's respected by Roy Moore

 

[RobDownSouth]

Gotta love the fact that all these new Constitutional Skolars are the same ones who last year thought "due process" was "advisory in nature" and we should "Lock Her Up".