Do you think Congressman Condit killed Chandra Levy?

[christo]

Not obstruction

Condit not telling the police that he had an affair with Chandra Levy is not obstruction of justice. Condit lying to police that he didn't have an affair with Chandra Levy isn't obstruction. For it to be obstruction of justice the cops would need to have evidence that the relationship between Condit and Levy was material to their investigation. Which, at this point, hasn't been established. Condit wasn't under oath, so he didn't commit perjury. I

It's horrible, having to surmise what happened to this poor girl, but say some psychopath saw her walking down the street and then abducted and killed her? Then Condit's relationship with Levy would be totally irrelevant. If Condit had nothing to do with her disappearance, if their relationship had nothing to do with it either, then it makes sense that he wouldn't divulge it.

The problem is, it seems that Levy told several people about the affair, and the people made this public, and he was under increasing political pressure to come clean. If he kept denying it, and conclusive evidence was found that he and Levy were indeed sleeping together, it would probably kill his political career. If it hasn't already.

Of course, Condit might have behaved the same way had he killed her himself. I'm not placing any bets on which way this is going to go. I'm not defending his lying to the cops...well, actually, I am. I don't advocate lying to the police when they are investigating a missing persons case, but we still have our rights, and just because a case is sensational doesn't mean that citizens should give up those rights.

 

[Siren]

Well said Christo

 

[Laurel]

I find it astounding that Republicans & their sympathizers would use a girl's disappearance to further their agenda against a member of "the other side". I heard some Republican in Congress was calling for Condit to "come clean". Explain to me how this local investigation into the disappearance of a girl is the business of anyone in Congress. This girl's parents are living an absolute nightmare, and here's some idiot blowhard using their misery to his political advantage.

Did he do it? I have no idea. No one has any idea. Even the cops investigating have no idea. At this point, absolutely no evidence has been disclosed publicly that points to anyone. Several girls have disappeared in that area in the last few years. Was she the victim of a serial killer? Was she the victim of her politician love, or his wife perhaps? I don't know, and none of you know either.

All I do know for sure is it is the height of tackiness and bad manners to use the disappearance of a young girl as a political weapon.

 

[Siren]

You are right Laurel it is wrong to use her death as a political advantage

 

[christo]

I dunno, I'm having a hard time believing he killed her. I'm looking for a motive. Now, people can do crazy things when they're, uh, crazy. But assuming he didn't do anything totally insane, I don't see his motive. Let's look at the possible scenarios.

--Levy and Condit have an affair, he wants to break it off, she threatens to tell his wife or the papers, so he kills her. This makes no sense, because if she left behind a diary or told anyone about the affair he's gonna be suspect #1. And of course there will be all those phones calls and e-mails she sent to him. So, killing her raises the stakes from admitting an extramarital affair to first degree murder.

--Levy is pregnant with Condit's child. She threatens to tell his wife, etc. It's the same problem as before, killing her makes a bad situation much, much worse.

--Levy breaks things off with Condit for whatever reason, he freaks and kills her. But how? Does he lure her somewhere for a last meeting, somewhere isolated and quiet, and kills her and stashes the body? Again, he risks her telling someone about the affair and the meeting.

This is, again, assuming that Condit would have killed her for a sound, logical reason, like covering up an affair. If the emotions got involved, if their relationship was more than just an older guy having a fling with a much younger girl, then all bets are off. Love and lust and jealousy can make people do all sorts of wacky things. But the fact that her body hasn't been found makes it seem, to me at least, less and less an act of passion, and like something more sinister.

 

[Siren]

I like how you think things out Christo

 

[Weird Harold]

Re: You are right Laurel it is wrong to use her death as a political advantage

Is Condit somehow involved?.....He hasnt been frank so far.

...

I grieve for her family.
Condit should have talked to them, at least spoken of sympathy.

Just who does he need to be frank with?

He has been frank with the police, (according to them and his attorney.) Why shouldn't he be able to tell the press, who are making this a political thing, that it is none of their business.

He has talked face to face with her family -- twice that the news has reported. I have no idea what was said at those meetings, but he is a career politician and "sympathy" should be easy for him.

I think the DC police chief summed the whole situation up in a nutshell when he said, "We aren't the sex police. We aren't looking for a stewardess who may or may not have had sex with a congressman; we're looking for a missing girl here."

 

[WriterDom]

Sounds like the feds are going to step in and conduct a full-scale forensic search. Something that would have been done weeks ago if he were WriterDom or Weird Harold.

 

[stargazer76]

This guy is plainly hiding something. As for the perjury topic, maybe he hasn't perjured himself....yet....we don't know. But he did ask or "allegedly" asked one of his former mistresses to keep quiet about their affair, and that alone gives me reason to think that Condit is not the least trustworthy. At this point, I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

If I were to guess, I'd say that Condit didn't kill her, but that he either had her killed or is in some way responsible for her disappearance. I think she was probably pregnant, as numerous sources have said that she called not only her family, but Condit, and reported that she had "big news". We have no way of knowing what his thought process might have been, but my gut tells me that he wanted her off the canvas.

I feel for her family right now. The not knowing is always the worst part.

 

[Andra_Jenny]

What if...

Serial philanderers are a weak link in our government. THink like Tom Clancy...,

If the russians wanted to infiltrate why not a good-looking secret-agent, sexy, sexy, to lure these old men who flatter themselves. What if our government detected such a foreign or domestic agent (like a republican plant!), and had her whisked away? What if he's really a dullard still sitting there with his mouth wide open wondering, "What the fuck?" Now I'm not talking black helicopters or anything here, they probably used a sedan.

 

[Young Knave]

Don't know.

I don't know. No one's really certain she's dead, yet. For all we know, she ran off with the Hell's Angels. Perhaps she grew tired of the confines of a routine, middle class existance and has left for a life on the road.

 

[SirGalahad67]

I'll bet that he knows something about her disappearance but I doubt big time that he did it. I think that it is a rare politician who will get his hands dirty (unless you count dipping your cigars in pussy juice).

lol, GOOD ONE BB dear.....

Galahad67

 

[SirGalahad67]

I find it astounding that Republicans & their sympathizers would use a girl's disappearance to further their agenda against a member of "the other side". I heard some Republican in Congress was calling for Condit to "come clean".

Right, Democrats never do anything like that, as we ALL know..... and of course you mention one (that's 1) Republican congressman, then you extrapolate against any entire party... care to put your money where your mouth is and list all the Republicans who have tried to make hay out of this???

Bet you can't come up with very many....so who's being tacky..? hmm

Sorry, but I think you're the one who interjected politics into this, and no one else.....but if I'm wrong I'll put forth a correction....

Galahad67

 

[Demian]

Jesus, Always have the most Cogent remarks...

I find it astounding that Republicans & their sympathizers would use a girl's disappearance to further their agenda against a member of "the other side". I heard some Republican in Congress was calling for Condit to "come clean". Explain to me how this local investigation into the disappearance of a girl is the business of anyone in Congress. This girl's parents are living an absolute nightmare, and here's some idiot blowhard using their misery to his political advantage.

Did he do it? I have no idea. No one has any idea. Even the cops investigating have no idea. At this point, absolutely no evidence has been disclosed publicly that points to anyone. Several girls have disappeared in that area in the last few years. Was she the victim of a serial killer? Was she the victim of her politician love, or his wife perhaps? I don't know, and none of you know either.

All I do know for sure is it is the height of tackiness and bad manners to use the disappearance of a young girl as a political weapon.

And fuck that lawyer of his talking in circles to the Media...I hope she is Safe and Sound

I have been gaining wonders that she is not dead, but part of a family hiding a pregnancy; more of a nice Family's morals again getting caught up in the Bullshit we seem to Elect over and over again...

 

[Andra_Jenny]

I heard a good one on talk radio

and you can always tell the recent divorcees calling in from thier trailer in Tonganoxie,

"If she was a really mean person, I just bet she went away to get even with him and will come out of hiding as soon as he is ruined."

It's true! You can't make this up.

There is no proven crime yet. The congressman is innocent. Stupid, yes. Self-centered, yes. A manipulative bastard politician, whoops redundant, politician, yes.

We do not operate under Napoleonic Law, unless he got arrested in St. Charles Parish...

 

[Weevil]

Were I a rational person.....

I'd chill on this one until they find out where the girl is. I wouldn't be asking if any particular person killed someone we don't know is dead. I'd let this become a story and then worry about it.

But how many rational people do you know that once ran naked through London, Ontario just to win 3 bottles of Jagermeister?

 

[Andra_Jenny]

From the proposed changes in the enforcement of pot laws combined with the extremely abberant behavior of subjects imbibing Jager and the rioters, in is my comclusion that the leaders of that island seem to want to mellow the inhabitants out a bit.

 

[teresafannin]

I think that Chandra is dead, it is not that easy to just disappear without a trace, unless she had a lot of money stashed in an account that no one knows about. Nothing in her background or behavior suggests she was going to run away. There doesn't have to be a reason or a motive for murder. It happens all the time-I know because I live with it everyday of my life. There should have been a much more intensive investigation begun when she first disappeared. She has been gone since April 30, a little over 2 months. I do think Condit is hiding something, but not sure what. I do understand what her family is going through & I care more about their feelings than Condit or his wife.

 

[Siren]

Condit hasnt been frank.

 

[Andra_Jenny]

Yes, but let the police do its work. Assume innocence. This is America, things could be political. As a conservative who would just love to hang any Democrat out to dry, I say, we need to back off.

Again, yes he should have been upfront at first.
Yes, he should pay a penalty for not being upfront.

Which standard do we hold him to?

Gingrich or Clinton?

It is a fair question, but again hands off.

What if you were called for jury duty?

It's hard to convict (try the Grissom case here) with no body.

 

[Siren]

Yes AJ...but

 

[Andra_Jenny]

Oh, well in that case,

[voice lowers dramatically]

Get a rope!

 

[Guest]

I just don't think that he has the balls to kill her himself. Look at his behavor so far, is he hiding something? Hell, I think that he's hiding a lot, but the man is a coward. Kill someone himself? Nah, but he prolly knows alot more than he is saying right now.

Another problem is that the DC Police dept is totally dependent on congress for funding and has a history of treading very lightly around members. For instence, during the Barney Frank scandle, they delayed thier investigation of Franks live in boy friend for 6 weeks untill they were absublutly certin that he was running a gay escort service out of Frank's appartmant.

Finally, I really hate to see Public service sullied in this way. Several posters on this thread and at least two national comentators have implied that "What do you expect? Condit is a politician, and we KNOW what they are like...."

Know This: the vast majority of our elected public servents on both sides of the asile are NOT like Condit. They are honorable men and women who work very had for thier districts and country. I hate to think of Tom Dashel or Trent Lott (who are both honorable descent hardworking men, regardless of how wrong they are) being tarred with the same brush that Condit so richly deserves. Doing the nations bussiness is hard enough, without the extra burdon that scandels like this create.

 

[Samuari]

That was me, and I know that I was regestered when I started that reply, and had replyed to several other posts. so how did it forget me?

 

[Samuari]

Just to take this back to the top.