Do you start with an outline?

Re: This Ain't War & Peace, Folks

dr_mabeuse said:

"They met, they screwed, The End."

Sorry, that's under 750 words. How about
"They met, they sang '750 green bottles of beer on the wall', they screwed, the end."
 
Re: This Ain't War & Peace, Folks

dr_mabeuse said:
Really, who needs an outline for the kind of stories posted here?

"They met, they screwed, The End." There's my outline.

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I don't write stroke stories. I'm by no means even close to being an excellent author. But I don't have outlines as simple as the ones you have apparantly, nor do I write stories like that.

I agree, my writing is not "War & Peace", but I do take alittle more pride in my writing than "They met, they screwed, The End." I know you were exagerating, but some of us do take our writing just a bit more seriously.
 
Pookie

Yes I was being facetious. And I admit to not reading any of the novellas here or following any of the multi-chapter works. But really, who really needs an outline for this stuff? How many characters do you have in a story? Three? Four? How many years does the action comprise? How many events? Do you really need to plot this down with roman numerals and all that?

I take what I post here seriously too, and I work at what I write and I agonize over it, as stupid as that may seem. I don't get up and dash off a story in 2 or 3 hours and edit it in 20 minutes and send it off. It takes me days and weeks. But still, I don't need an outline and I really just can't conceive of why anyone would unless they're doing a novella or serialized novel.

I just don't understand how anyone would need an outline for any short story. I mean, what are the major points? What are the minor points? Notes? Sure, if you think of a great description or a great line and you want to write it down. But that's not an outline.

---dr.M.
 
My first two stories were 32,000 and 39,000 words. I spent many many hours over a month or so with each of them. There were a number of major and subtle events that I wanted to occur in each of them as far as character and plot development.

A first person story takes time to build properly if it is going to be convincing and entertaining to the reader. Maybe I am not bright enough to keep an outline in my head like you, but I do find it has helped me tremendously to keep my characters and plots on track.
 
I, like Pookie_grrl, believe that to write a really good story I need an outline. Sometimes real detailed sometimes not. I tend to think about my stories first, I jot down notes, who my characters are, events that I want to happen, etc. Maybe I’ll even do an interview with one or two of my characters, most of the time that’s written. By the time I’m ready to write I need to know how all of this fits together. I’m never sure how my story is going to start but I do have a good idea of where it’s heading, and what major events I want to show.

For my writing here I break all the rules and just write. I enjoy that, stories aren’t, even to myself, predictable. Because of what I write here, at one time driven by some hate, now more by humor, I do know pretty much where my stories well end. Writing this way is more risky, I suppose, my last story, which I felt was quite humorous, was not well received, very poorly read and rated. But as they say, I’d really like to know who they are, life goes on.
 
For one of my recent pieces, Tell me I can hope, also mentioned in the 'Imagination' thread, I had only the title in my head when I started. That, and a background to the characters developed in an earlier story, A Date for the Prom. I didn't have an outline, only a rough idea of what I wanted from the characters. Alison surprised even me!

Alex
 
My contribution to this thread

I write from the heart, sharing my fantasies and in some cases experiences. I do write in the stream of consciousness mode and i have recieved a number of comments (pro and con) about my writing style.

My yardstick for a successful submission is how hot i get reading the story.

I am personally less of a stickler for grammer and punctuation than i am for the story.

Just some of my random thoughts

(please feel free to edit and give me feedback....
 
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