Do you Recognize any of these in your domme/sub?

MsWorthy

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At least 5 of the following should be present . . .

1. Possesses a grandiose sense of self-importance (for example: exaggerates his achievements and his talents, expects his superiority to be recognized without having the commensurate skills or achievements).

2. Pre-occupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and beauty or of ideal love.

3. Believes that he is unique and special and that only high status and special people (or institutions) could understand him (or that it is only with such people and institutions that it is worth his while to be associated with).

4. Demands excessive and exceptional admiration.

5. Feels that he is deserving of exceptionally good treatment, automatic obeisance of his (usually unrealistic) expectations.

6. Exploitative in his interpersonal relationships, uses others to achieve his goals.

7. Lacks empathy: is disinterested in other people's needs and emotions and does not identify with them.

8. Envies others or believes that others envy him.

9. Displays arrogance and haughtiness.

~he and him can be replaced with she and her~

to be continued. . . .
 
MsWorthy said:
At least 5 of the following should be present . . .

1. Possesses a grandiose sense of self-importance (for example: exaggerates his achievements and his talents, expects his superiority to be recognized without having the commensurate skills or achievements).

To a degree, yes in my previous Dom. Not the man I am involved with now, though.

2. Pre-occupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and beauty or of ideal love.

Oh God yes! Again, my previous Dom. Again, not the man who is currently in my life

3. Believes that he is unique and special and that only high status and special people (or institutions) could understand him (or that it is only with such people and institutions that it is worth his while to be associated with).

No, not in either Dom.

4. Demands excessive and exceptional admiration.

No.

5. Feels that he is deserving of exceptionally good treatment, automatic obeisance of his (usually unrealistic) expectations.

On too many occassions my previous Dom was unrealistic and ignored my hard limit. Currently, the Man I am involved with shows none of these characteristics.

6. Exploitative in his interpersonal relationships, uses others to achieve his goals.

No not really in either Man.

7. Lacks empathy: is disinterested in other people's needs and emotions and does not identify with them.

Occassionally with my previous Dom. Not at all with the current Man.

8. Envies others or believes that others envy him.

No, not in either Man.


9. Displays arrogance and haughtiness.

Yes with my previous Dom, sometimes with my current relationship. ~smile~

~he and him can be replaced with she and her~

to be continued. . . .

Now I see better why he is my *previous* Dom.... LOL
 
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I don't know about my domme/sub, but I am definitely guilty of 3, 4 & 9.

Isn't this quiz from that Is Your Boss/Lover/Mom a Sociopath site?

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MsWorthy said:
At least 5 of the following should be present . . .

1. Possesses a grandiose sense of self-importance (for example: exaggerates his achievements and his talents, expects his superiority to be recognized without having the commensurate skills or achievements).

2. Pre-occupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and beauty or of ideal love.

3. Believes that he is unique and special and that only high status and special people (or institutions) could understand him (or that it is only with such people and institutions that it is worth his while to be associated with).

4. Demands excessive and exceptional admiration.

5. Feels that he is deserving of exceptionally good treatment, automatic obeisance of his (usually unrealistic) expectations.

6. Exploitative in his interpersonal relationships, uses others to achieve his goals.

7. Lacks empathy: is disinterested in other people's needs and emotions and does not identify with them.

8. Envies others or believes that others envy him.

9. Displays arrogance and haughtiness.

~he and him can be replaced with she and her~

to be continued. . . .

None MsW. Not a one. Care to enlighten me as to what that means?
 
I saw alot of that with someone I knew before.

Twas not a good thing,I'm thinking.
 
http://members.aol.com/SRABANDE/Narcissism.html


"At least 5 of the following should be present for a person to be diagnosed as suffering from NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder):

1. Possesses a grandiose sense of self-importance (for example: exaggerates his achievements and his talents, expects his superiority to be recognized without having the commensurate skills or achievements).

2. Pre-occupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and beauty or of ideal love.

3. Believes that he is unique and special and that only high status and special people (or institutions) could understand him (or that it is only with such people and institutions that it is worth his while to be associated with).

4. Demands excessive and exceptional admiration.

5. Feels that he is deserving of exceptionally good treatment, automatic obeisance of his (usually unrealistic) expectations.

6. Exploitative in his interpersonal relationships, uses others to achieve his goals.

7. Lacks empathy: is disinterested in other people's needs and emotions and does not identify with them.

8. Envies others or believes that others envy him.

9. Displays arrogance and haughtiness.

There emerges a portrait of a monster, a ruthless and exploitative person. But this is only the phenomenological side. Inside, the Narcissist suffers from a chronic lack of confidence and is fundamentally dissatisfied. On the outside, his is a vicissitudinal nature. This is far from reflecting the barren landscape of misery and fears that constitutes his soul. His tumultuous behaviour covers up for a submissive, depressed interior."



I thought this was interesting and might stimulate conversation as I have seen many of these traits in self-identified dom/mes and subs.

Other links for narcissism:

http://imiuru.com/Narcissism2.html#anchor6297791
http://samvak.tripod.com/npdglance.html
http://www.geocities.com/vaksam/
http://www.tipsofallsorts.com/narcissism.html

~I have not read all of these sites, but thought I would do a search for anyone interested~
 
MsWorthy said:
http://members.aol.com/SRABANDE/Narcissism.html


"At least 5 of the following should be present for a person to be diagnosed as suffering from NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder):

1. Possesses a grandiose sense of self-importance (for example: exaggerates his achievements and his talents, expects his superiority to be recognized without having the commensurate skills or achievements).

2. Pre-occupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and beauty or of ideal love.

3. Believes that he is unique and special and that only high status and special people (or institutions) could understand him (or that it is only with such people and institutions that it is worth his while to be associated with).

4. Demands excessive and exceptional admiration.

5. Feels that he is deserving of exceptionally good treatment, automatic obeisance of his (usually unrealistic) expectations.

6. Exploitative in his interpersonal relationships, uses others to achieve his goals.

7. Lacks empathy: is disinterested in other people's needs and emotions and does not identify with them.

8. Envies others or believes that others envy him.

9. Displays arrogance and haughtiness.

There emerges a portrait of a monster, a ruthless and exploitative person. But this is only the phenomenological side. Inside, the Narcissist suffers from a chronic lack of confidence and is fundamentally dissatisfied. On the outside, his is a vicissitudinal nature. This is far from reflecting the barren landscape of misery and fears that constitutes his soul. His tumultuous behaviour covers up for a submissive, depressed interior."



I thought this was interesting and might stimulate conversation as I have seen many of these traits in self-identified dom/mes and subs.

Other links for narcissism:

http://imiuru.com/Narcissism2.html#anchor6297791
http://samvak.tripod.com/npdglance.html
http://www.geocities.com/vaksam/
http://www.tipsofallsorts.com/narcissism.html

~I have not read all of these sites, but thought I would do a search for anyone interested~

As I read all of those traits it reminded me of the Roman Emperor Caligula. Talking about your scary Dom!

Eb
 
There are times that I am guilty of 3, 4 and 9 as well.

But, isn't a bit of narcissism, in moderation, a healthy thing?

I mean, someone who is absolutely not narcisissistic probably has a lousy self image and poor self esteem, no?
 
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