Do you own your body?

[Damanhere]

Well... do you?

I think everyone owns there on body to keep,share, or give....

 

[adrina]

It's horrifying when men with power think like this.

And that more Americans don't vote than do.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...h-carolina-death-penalty-abortion-1234695566/

21 South Carolina GOP Lawmakers Propose Death Penalty for Women Who Have Abortions​

It’s not just a lone extremist: The bill has 21 co-sponsors in the state’s House of Representatives

What happens if the woman on death row gets pregnant?

 

[adrina]

Reproductive freedoms are dependent upon geography.

In Wyoming, the abortion pill is now banned. Because... reasons. Regardless of any of the other uses for the drug. All hail the fetus and fuck everyone else.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3906562-wyoming-governor-signs-ban-on-abortion-pills/

In SC, 9 of 24 have pulled their support from having the death penalty be the punishment for having the audacity to have an abortion. I'm sure that makes some sense somewhere. Maybe in Bizarro World. Before we celebrate the 9 backing out of their support, let's not forget that 15 of them still support it. Nothing says pro-life like the death penalty - for what is essentially an act of self defense.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...arolina-abortion-death-penalty-bill-rcna75383

I guess on the upside, if you're in ND you can get an abortion. Well except that they technically have no abortion clinics in the state - the last one moved to Minnesota. Details. But fear not ye worshipers of the fetus, the GOP zealots aren't giving up.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/16/1163927465/north-dakota-abortion-ban-court-ruling

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Reproductive freedoms are dependent upon geography.

In Wyoming, the abortion pill is now banned. Because... reasons. Regardless of any of the other uses for the drug. All hail the fetus and fuck everyone else.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3906562-wyoming-governor-signs-ban-on-abortion-pills/

In SC, 9 of 24 have pulled their support from having the death penalty be the punishment for having the audacity to have an abortion. I'm sure that makes some sense somewhere. Maybe in Bizarro World. Before we celebrate the 9 backing out of their support, let's not forget that 15 of them still support it. Nothing says pro-life like the death penalty - for what is essentially an act of self defense.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...arolina-abortion-death-penalty-bill-rcna75383

I guess on the upside, if you're in ND you can get an abortion. Well except that they technically have no abortion clinics in the state - the last one moved to Minnesota. Details. But fear not ye worshipers of the fetus, the GOP zealots aren't giving up.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/16/1163927465/north-dakota-abortion-ban-court-ruling

What stops someone from ordering it out of state?

 

[adrina]

What stops someone from ordering it out of state?

Likely it will be like Walgreens where in order to try to avoid any lawsuits they just won't ship to Wyoming.

It's fucking ridiculous. Control freak hysterics enacting draconian laws that they will never be personally affected by. Well except when it drags their state into the gutter because of poverty and crime.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Likely it will be like Walgreens where in order to try to avoid any lawsuits they just won't ship to Wyoming.

It's fucking ridiculous. Control freak hysterics enacting draconian laws that they will never be personally affected by. Well except when it drags their state into the gutter because of poverty and crime.

I agree with you that it’s wrong. Hopefully legislation is passed or courts come to their senses.

 

[adrina]

I agree with you that it’s wrong. Hopefully legislation is passed or courts come to their senses.

Or, most importantly, more people start giving a shit. Currently, we have some of the lowest political engagement historically. It fucking fries my ass that less than half of all eligible voters actively participate in the process. Less than a fifth vote in the primaries and a very large chunk think they are "doing their part" if they show up once every four years. Heh, and a third of them can't even be bothered to do that.

But, hey they can be consumers. That's easy enough. (Yes I'm thoroughly disgusted by the majority of the consumers' - not citizens' - apathy.)

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

What stops someone from ordering it out of state?

Nothing stops anyone from ordering out of state. But state laws can stop sellers from fulfilling orders in states that prohibit it. It’s rather amusing that many of the same liberals who were outraged at Governor DeSantis and the FL state legislature for their action against Disney’s special district are cheering Governor Newsom for targeting Walgreens. Even more amusing because Walgreens fully intends to deliver the pills in his state. They’re only going to not ship to states where it’s illegal to do so.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Nothing stops anyone from ordering out of state. But state laws can stop sellers from fulfilling orders in states that prohibit it. It’s rather amusing that many of the same liberals who were outraged at Governor DeSantis and the FL state legislature for their action against Disney’s special district are cheering Governor Newsom for targeting Walgreens. Even more amusing because Walgreens fully intends to deliver the pills in his state. They’re only going to not ship to states where it’s illegal to do so.

Those are two wildly different things. It would be surprising if anyone even brought them up together.

 

[ImiGirrst]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...h-carolina-death-penalty-abortion-1234695566/

21 South Carolina GOP Lawmakers Propose Death Penalty for Women Who Have Abortions​

It’s not just a lone extremist: The bill has 21 co-sponsors in the state’s House of Representatives

Because an eye for an eye, right?

 

[adrina]

In their zealotry and ignorance, the Idaho GOP has legislated prenatal and obstetric care out of existence for one community.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/health-fitness/article273303190.html

Idaho hospital to stop delivering babies. One reason? ‘Bills that criminalize physicians’

Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, announced Friday that it will no longer provide obstetrical services to the city of more than 9,000 people, meaning patients will have to drive 46 miles for labor and delivery care. The hospital’s board of directors and senior leadership called the decision emotional and difficult, and cited a loss of pediatricians, changing demographics and Idaho’s legal and political climate around health care as the reasons.

“The Idaho Legislature continues to introduce and pass bills that criminalize physicians for medical care nationally recognized as the standard of care,” the hospital’s news release said. “Consequences for Idaho physicians providing the standard of care may include civil litigation and criminal prosecution, leading to jail time or fines.”

 

[Dribble]

Time to live lives behind closed doors and in back alleys. The abortion pill will always be available....you just now have to buy it from your local drug dealer. Just choose wisely...many networks have a strong police presence

 

[adrina]

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/texas...-continue-pregnancy-despite/story?id=97918340

Kylie Beaton was looking forward to having her second child later this year. Now, she's faced with carrying an unviable pregnancy to its end due to Texas' highly restrictive abortion ban.

According to a report from her doctor, Beaton's baby has a rare, severe condition impacting the development of its brain, but she is unable to access abortion care in her home state.

At her 20-week ultrasound appointment, Beaton said her physician discovered the fetus had a rare, severe anomaly -- called alobar holoprosencephaly -- in which the fetus's brain does not develop into two hemispheres as it normally would, and the major structures of the brain remain fused in the middle.

The brain splitting into two hemispheres is a "critical stage in the development" and can impact the development of the nose, mouth and throat, Dr. Katie McHugh, an Indiana OB-GYN and abortion provider, told ABC News. The condition can result in a very painful life and death for the fetus, McHugh said.

Beaton said her physician referred her to a specialist a week after her diagnosis. However, she said the specialist confirmed that due to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and Texas' "trigger" law effectively outlawing nearly all abortions, the physicians' hands were tied. She said the specialist told her he could not do anything to end the pregnancy unless Beaton developed a severe health issue or if the fetus dies in the womb.

Yay. More suffering so extremist hysterics can worship fetuses.

 

[RobDownSouth]

What is it with you stupids?

NO ONE is "forcing" anyone to have irreversible sterilization. NO ONE is "forcing" women to bear children.

Abortion is still available. Not universally and in every State, but it's STILL AVAILABLE. Nor did Dobbs outlaw abortion.

Someone on Reddit was channelling their "Inner Timmeh" ("Hurr durr! Stoopid bitch get pregnant? Move to other state1")
and I thought this response was perfect...LINK (Very large picture so I'm linking rather than show the pic).

 

[Dribble]

Women never owned their body

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638399111664930816

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638412845963681792

 

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/s...&cvid=387cf83994244651b1285f54812bf8b5&ei=111

 

[Littletoo]

Of course.

You can do any fucking thing you want to or with it.

But that's not the real question, is it?

 

[adrina]

Of course.

You can do any fucking thing you want to or with it.

But that's not the real question, is it?

If you're a woman it now depends on where you live.

 

[butters]

while some reps attempt some sanity in a sea of lunacy in Idaho, others push back. Here's an example of two trying to address the problems of the abortion ban when it comes to life-saving of the mother and protecting doctors performing life-saving surgery from legal repercussions, only to have others say it's 'all a ruse' and more...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...1&cvid=932393359ab84c4dafb3df80f5a8065c&ei=44

This session, two Republican state legislators introduced a bill that would clarify key concepts in the state’s felony abortion ban. These include defining when an abortion is necessary to save the life of the pregnant person, and confirming once and for all that it’s not a felony to treat ectopic and nonviable pregnancies and to remove fetuses that have died.

It would also stop doctors who perform life-saving abortions from automatically being dragged before a judge to plead medical necessity as an affirmative defense.

Rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty can paralyze doctors while letting legislators off the hook for self-evidently stupid and unpopular policies, like forcing patients to wait in agonizing pain until their fallopian tubes rupture and their abdomens fill with blood. Or for letting bacteria rot their uteruses, and surge through their bodies, because their doomed fetus still has a heartbeat.

The Idaho Republican Party sent out an email Tuesday night claiming that the proposed changes were a ruse by doctors to “have more leeway to perform abortions in Idaho.” The head of the far-right Idaho Family Policy Center fretted in an email to supporters that a “special interest group” had drafted some of the language.

That group is the Idaho Medical Association, an utterly mainstream group that has been promoting medical excellence in the state since 1893. A hearing on the bill has been postponed amid the antichoice outcry.

 

[adrina]

while some reps attempt some sanity in a sea of lunacy in Idaho, others push back. Here's an example of two trying to address the problems of the abortion ban when it comes to life-saving of the mother and protecting doctors performing life-saving surgery from legal repercussions, only to have others say it's 'all a ruse' and more...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...1&cvid=932393359ab84c4dafb3df80f5a8065c&ei=44

They're not being rational. Which demonstrates it is not about life, about concern for the fetus. It is simply about control. Punitive control.

And considering people don't care enough to vote... it'll stay that way.

 

[Littletoo]

If you're a woman it now depends on where you live.

It always has.

 

[adrina]

It always has.

In the United States it has not. Until the partisan conservative stacked court decided otherwise regardless of how they answered questions about precedent in their confirmation hearings.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1640853834573676545